Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

catbyte

(34,367 posts)
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 10:28 AM Jul 2018

"Don't think for a moment these people want to be our friends."



Don't think for one minute that these people want to be our friends.

Julia Davis @JuliaDavisNews

#Russia's state TV:
Igor Korotchenko, member of the Defense Ministry’s public advisory council, talks about GOP Senators coming to Russia and the Trump-Putin summit:
"The Russians should look down upon the Americans, like the USSR did... You came to us, because YOU need it."
20 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
"Don't think for a moment these people want to be our friends." (Original Post) catbyte Jul 2018 OP
Kick dalton99a Jul 2018 #1
US newsmedia has fears that trump would be taken advantage of by Putin empedocles Jul 2018 #2
+100 so true. Blinders still on most of them lostnfound Jul 2018 #3
I just realized why trump wanted a meeting with his boss NOW. calimary Jul 2018 #8
"Hey Vlad, I need another election fixed. Can you arrange it pls?" lastlib Jul 2018 #16
And that's why the CONS won't lift a finger to do anything to stop it. calimary Jul 2018 #19
Exactly. No one will entertain the idea trumpft isn't being managed, but is willing Merlot Jul 2018 #10
Already sold. tavernier Jul 2018 #11
K & R...for visibility...nt Wounded Bear Jul 2018 #4
Today's republicans: "Russia is our friend". keithbvadu2 Jul 2018 #5
Trump planning one-on-one meeting with Putin without aides present: report keithbvadu2 Jul 2018 #6
My Ass the Russians are our friends. calimary Jul 2018 #9
trumps owes russians a bunch of dough. KG Jul 2018 #7
Russia Needs the US More Than We Need Russia Leith Jul 2018 #12
Fuck Putin and Russia. When I was an infantry officer they were my sworn kairos12 Jul 2018 #13
It looks like a game show. Kablooie Jul 2018 #14
When we talk about russia, we are talking about their fascist government elmac Jul 2018 #15
Here's one of the best explainers on Russia's mind control techniques I've seen. KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2018 #17
The USSR looked down on the US?!!!! paleotn Jul 2018 #18
K&R Scurrilous Jul 2018 #20

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
2. US newsmedia has fears that trump would be taken advantage of by Putin
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 10:47 AM
Jul 2018

fears that trump might inadvertently reveal classified information, compromise US security or personal,
or the unprepared trump be outsmarted by Putin,
or trump might not deal with US election meddling by Russia,

- but no mention of the possibility that trump might encourage the meddling,
or trump might 'sell' whatever US assets/information/sanctions etc. to encourage or deal for the Russia meddling in the US election

All of which are possible given the trump behavior record. Several seem more than possible.

calimary

(81,209 posts)
8. I just realized why trump wanted a meeting with his boss NOW.
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 11:56 AM
Jul 2018

Of course!!!!!

OF COURSE he wants a meetup with Putin now.

It’s because the midterm elections are coming. He’s going there to pick up the new strategies for rigging the upcoming midterms. They have to coordinate their maneuvers and talking points as shrewdly as possible to make sure the trump Cavalcade of CONS in Congress and Pox Noise and Sinclair Broadcasting are all set up for the attack.

lastlib

(23,208 posts)
16. "Hey Vlad, I need another election fixed. Can you arrange it pls?"
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 01:17 PM
Jul 2018

absolutely, that's why he's going!

calimary

(81,209 posts)
19. And that's why the CONS won't lift a finger to do anything to stop it.
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 02:47 PM
Jul 2018

They want that help again. They want it to keep coming - for as long as they think they can get away with it. NOTHING will be done, from ANY of these GOP assholes. Not for 2018. Certainly not for 2020. HELL NO! They're gonna keep wanting that help to keep their grubby paws on the levers of power.

The only way we can even start getting something decisive done about it is to take back the House in November. Senate, too, I hope, but I think our chances are better in the House of Reps. You KNOW our team is gonna take some serious looks at this problem. And then we have to take back everything else from there. The Senate, the statehouses, and of course, the White House.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
10. Exactly. No one will entertain the idea trumpft isn't being managed, but is willing
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 12:01 PM
Jul 2018

That's why we get all these stupid stories about his mental health. He's fine, he's doing what he WANTS to do. trumpft isn't being manipulated by comprat. In fact, if the "tape" ever came out, he knows he'd be fine with his base.

What he has to worry about are his business dealings and mob ties, not his menta health or comprat.

keithbvadu2

(36,759 posts)
5. Today's republicans: "Russia is our friend".
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 11:51 AM
Jul 2018

Today's republicans: "Russia is our friend".

https://www.google.com/search?q=russia+is+our+friend&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1
-------------

"... retired Marine Corps Gen. James N. Mattis said in May 2015 that among world threats “in the near term, I think the most dangerous might be Russia.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/6/donald-trump-james-mattis-differ-on-vladimir-putin/

keithbvadu2

(36,759 posts)
6. Trump planning one-on-one meeting with Putin without aides present: report
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 11:54 AM
Jul 2018

Trump planning one-on-one meeting with Putin without aides present: report

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/395324-trump-planning-one-on-one-meeting-with-putin-without-aides-present

Donald talking treason with his master with no witnesses.

Leith

(7,808 posts)
12. Russia Needs the US More Than We Need Russia
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 12:22 PM
Jul 2018

This is just propaganda for their own ignorant masses. Tell them they are smart, powerful, and their country has power over other countries and they giggle with glee.

All it would take is for other countries to shun them again and their descent back into a third world level is complete.

IQ45 comes along, gets himself indebted to their crime bosses, and sells us out to save his own ass from a nice helping of plutonium soup.

kairos12

(12,852 posts)
13. Fuck Putin and Russia. When I was an infantry officer they were my sworn
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 12:36 PM
Jul 2018

enemies and nothing has changed.

Except we have a traitor in charge.

Kablooie

(18,625 posts)
14. It looks like a game show.
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 12:59 PM
Jul 2018

I'm sure the Republicans are there to ask Russia for more help in overthrowing the midterms. They probably say they are willing to do anything to help.

They could become more fodder for Mueller but this is why the investigation is taking so long. More Republicans keep theowing thmselves into it as it progresses. Unusual way to delay the results.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
15. When we talk about russia, we are talking about their fascist government
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 01:11 PM
Jul 2018

We must remember that the majority of Russian people hate putin as much as we hate tRump. They have no more power over their monster then we do ours. In Russia, those that speak out end up dead, here, its only a matter of time.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,489 posts)
17. Here's one of the best explainers on Russia's mind control techniques I've seen.
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 01:26 PM
Jul 2018

This article provides us with a good basic understanding on how Russia influences thought processes around the globe:

Is Trump’s Chaos Tornado a Move From the Kremlin’s Playbook?
It’s terrifying to think that the Trump administration is simply winging it, in a swirl of lies, contradictions, and Twitter rants. A scarier possibility is that there is, in fact, a plan, taken straight from Putin 101.
Link: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/03/is-trumps-chaos-a-move-from-the-kremlins-playbook

(snip)

The first technique that the Trump administration appears to be appropriating from Moscow is a kind of chaos theory. By clogging the news with mini-scandals, bald-faced lies, and provocative tweets, the White House sends journalists and media outlets into haphazard frenzy. President Trump’s lies alone have become their own beat, forcing publications to devote precious resources to invalidating the many outrageous claims he makes daily, sometimes within a single interview. White House press secretary Sean Spicer’s early press conferences suggest that he too will serve as media antagonist, baiting reporters with arrogant fallacies and extending the Trump regime’s brand of bullying truth and democratic values into wary submission.

Clint Watts, a fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute who has studied Russian propaganda for years, sees major similarities between Putin’s and Trump’s approaches. “Create chaos in the system, such that you don’t know what is the truth or not the truth,” he says. The Kremlin does this by flooding television and digital media with biased coverage and wanton spin. The Trump administration has discovered something equally effective: lying to reporters and publicly attacking critics are like tossing grenades into the media eco-system. The press is constantly scrambling to respond to a never-ending river of slime, and the system is gradually overwhelmed.

...... .....Thanks, Vanity Fair!.......

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
18. The USSR looked down on the US?!!!!
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 02:10 PM
Jul 2018

And precisely what the fucking hell does the US "need" from a gas station masquerading as a two bit country? Take away their fossil fuels and their nukes and the Russkies are about as relevant as Eritrea. Borscht eating swine!

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»"Don't think for a moment...