Jordan is up shit creek without a paddle

[malaise]

Truth will out - I'm betting that it's worse than we're hearing.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

1. He should resign.

[TheBlackAdder]

61. He's got the face that says, "I've been up shit creek before and also down the Hershey Highway!"

[democrank]

2. A new twist on the Mr. All-American flag waver guy.

I hope he goes down in the way he so richly deserves.

[CincyDem]

3. As I pointed out in a different thread...

The only thing more sacred in Jordan's district than Trump and GOP is the worship of The Ohio State University sports programs. If there's a wiff that he compromised those "fine young lads" and didn't support them...he'll be bagging groceries in the Lima Piggly Wiggly before ya know it. They'll elect another red MAGA guy but it won't be Jordan.

[malaise]

6. ROFL

At the Lima Piggly Wiggly.

[Blue_true]

18. What are the general election rules in Ohio.

The primary for Governor and US offices has already taken place. There is a woman opposing Jordan. If Jordan drops out of the race at some point, what happens?

[CincyDem]

21. Good question...

From the Ohio Election Code.

2513.31(B): If a person nominated in a primary election as a party candidate for election at the next general election, whose candidacy is to be submitted to the electors of a district comprised of more than one county but less than all of the counties of the state, withdraws as that candidate or is disqualified as that candidate under section 3513.052 of the Revised Code, the vacancy in the party nomination so created may be filled by a district committee of the major political party that made the nomination at the primary election, if the committee's chairperson and secretary certify the name of the person selected to fill the vacancy by the time specified in this division, at a meeting called for that purpose.

My read: feels like the Republican Party up in OH-4 picks a replacement candidate. There were some other quirks if it happens within 10 days of the general but I don't think they will apply here. If he stays until end October, he'll be here for election day.

[Blue_true]

22. Thanks. Maybe the situation will suppress his vote.

I looked at vote totals for the primary, there was one for each party, no one ran unopposed. The republican vote total was around 2x the Dem total, so we would need people to not vote for him by voting for the woman opposing him or not voting at all - which effectively is a vote for his opponent.

[irisblue]

26. You are absolutely right about the OSU being near sacred here in central Ohio.

[George II]

30. Hah! I didn't realize there are Piggly Wigglys up in Ohio. I see there are five or six!

[madinmaryland]

42. Is there a Piggly Wiggly in Lima now? I don't recall them being up north. I worked

at an IGA in Ada.

The thing is, the longer JimJo holds out, the less chance the repukes will have a chance to replace him on the ballot. It would be funny if they ended up with a Dem at the CD.

[CincyDem]

43. Busted. I confess. I picked Piggly Wiggly because I liked typing Piggly Wiggly. lol

What can I say - it's a appropriate word picture.

[hlthe2b]

4. Goddess willing...

He surely competes for the most deplorable in Congress. Let him be hoisted on his own petard.

[safeinOhio]

5. I'm with you and

think his involvement goes much deeper....

[COLGATE4]

7. He's another Denny Hastert

[malaise]

9. Could be

Hopefully his end will receive more coverage than the Hastert

[FarPoint]

34. My exact thoughts!!!!

I think he may have some secrets too!

Hope we find a trail of hush money.

[brush]

55. No, he wasn't the one doing the molesting. He's another Joe Paterno.

He knew and ignored it.

[world wide wally]

8. It couldnt tappen to a bigger, more obnoxious asshole

[Ohiogal]

10. Amen, wally.

[Kingofalldems]

11. How about him being involved?

[malaise]

12. With these goons

Anything is possible - why is he pretending not to know - suspicious?

[kairos12]

13. Somehow he will blame Obama. Or emails.

[Vinca]

14. This is karma above and beyond my wildest dreams.

[malaise]

16. +1,000

[Raven123]

28. Would be even better if his emails are involved

[gibraltar72]

15. I saw a post somewhere where it was said

he lockered beside the guy. He was heard to make the statement if he came on to him he'd be sorry. I'd say that proves he knew.

[Blue_true]

19. If that is the case, why doesn't he just come out and say that he heard things.

And was on the defensive against the doctor approaching him. Why is he lying? Seems there is more to this.

[spooky3]

23. Because in his job he had the responsibility to act

as soon as he knew. And apparently, he didn’t.

[Kaleva]

46. He may have had a moral responsibility but I don't think Ohio law require it

This is different then the Penn State case where minor children were involved and more like Michigan State where the doctor was charged and convicted but there were no criminal charges lodged against anyone else at the school because the victims were all adults. Michigan State was sued and agreed to a 500 million dollar settlement for ignoring misconduct.

Jordan's in a tough spot 'cause even if he wasn't legally required to report, acknowledging that he knew but didn't act would be devastating to his current career (which would be mighty fine by me).

[Blue_true]

48. Given the people that vote for him, I am not so sure that him saying he knew

would hurt him at all. His voters would come up with justifications for voting for him. My sense is that he has a deeper reason for denying. He had a locker by the guy, did he stay there? Something just is not falling into place.

[spooky3]

49. Don't be so sure. See this report--and this is only the

Tip of the iceberg:

https://www.wsbradio.com/news/national/congressman-jim-jordan-accused-knowing-about-sex-abuse-ohio-university-but-not-reporting/9KXrzgFeZKmXnlDQZPIYoK/

This and other reports say that OSU is investigating whether high school age students were involved.

And, unless you know what the university rules were and are in these situations, you really can’t say whether he had only a moral responsibility. Note also that in my prior post, I didn’t say anything about laws.

[Kaleva]

51. You said he had a resonsibility to act

What are OSU's rules in regards to this? You didn't cite them in your post.

[spooky3]

52. That's your burden, not mine. And, my post was in response

To someone asking why Jordan wouldn’t admit that he knew of the alleged abuse. My answer is not a pronouncement in the law but an explanation of why he would now be so reluctant to admit the likely truth.

[Kaleva]

53. You made the claim. It's your burden to back it up.

You said he had a responsibility to act but cannot provide any evidence supporting that statement. I can make up stuff too.

[brush]

58. it's been reported that Jordan knew about the sexual harassment...

but allegedly looked the other way as the doctor was the "candy man" on campus (supplied peds to the athletes).

That makes it even worse for toast Jordan, I mean Coach Jordan.

He is toast though.

[spooky3]

50. The victims of Nasser were not all adults. There are

numerous reports of how “women and girls” and “minors” were victims.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/early-lead/wp/2018/03/01/michigan-gymnast-reportedly-becomes-first-male-victim-to-file-larry-nassar-lawsuit/

[Kaleva]

54. The minors weren't students at MSU

If faculty and admin at MSU was aware or heard that Nassar was sexually assaulting minors, they were required by law to report it. Failure to do so could have lead to charges being brought against them.

[brush]

56. It seems it was common knowledge what that doctor was up to.

Jordan is more in the Joe Paterno category—he knew and looked the other way. It came out earlier here that the doctor was the "candy man" for the athletes on campus, which explains why he was tolerated by Coach Jordan.

That's even worse for Jordan—looking the other way on sexual harassment and wink-winking at peds for the athletes.

[Kaleva]

59. That's probably why Jordan is denying knowledge.

Even if he wasn't legally required to report it at the time, he can't admit to knowing about the sexual harassment and the handing out of "candy" to the student athletes and doing nothing about it without destroying his political career. So he's going to plead ignorance and hope this just goes away which I very much doubt.

[brush]

60. It won't go away. He's toast. Three athletes from the time have...

already come out and said he knew.

He'll be resigning in a week or so once the rest of the repugs put pressure on him so they can select someone else for the upcoming election.

Without enough time for the new candidate to get some kind of name rec. they could lose the district to the Dem.

[Blue_true]

17. I tend to agree with that drift.

Was he somehow involved with that Doctor and the goings on?

[Kingofalldems]

20. Boom!

Link to tweet

[hexola]

24. Sure seems like Jordan is hiding something...

Just had a few remarks from him on CNN...

They asked him if he knew the doctor - he acknowledged he did (how could he deny it!?) - but certainly didn't offer any defense of the guy - or remember him as a "good guy" or anything like that.

Sure seems like he knew something!

One of the victims has a criminal record - they're already trying to diminish his credibility.

But - I think the media has this story and is baiting Jordan - leading with the least credible victim - let Jordan attack and deny - and then walk out the more credible stories - and Jordan is toast.

[irisblue]

25. This story made it to the NPR top of the hour news.

This is building.

[Lucky Luciano]

27. Probably be nominated to the SCOTUS in that case. nt

[DoctorJoJo]

29. No Problem: He Just Needs to Take a Polygraph About His Prior Knowledge!

Yeah--that's likely to happen! I can already see his back scrambling in my mind at such a suggestion! His career is toast, and I'm soooo happy!

[stonecutter357]

31. thoughts and prayers !

[Gothmog]

32. Betty Bowers-It's like Pizzagate. Only true. And bigger. And Republican.

Link to tweet

[malaise]

41. Delish

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[eleny]

33. Janet Garrett for Congress

http://www.janetgarrett.com/

[DesertRat]

35. Begala: "Put Rep. Jordan under oath and grill him. For 11 hours."

Link to tweet

[lancelyons]

36. Well that means in the GOP party he is fixing to be promoted. Senator Jordan now.

Well that means in the GOP party he is fixing to be promoted. Senator Jordan now. 1 more screwup and he will be president. Thats how it works in the GOP.


Its not just the GOP... its mostly their base. Trump could go away but that deplorable base is still there like a rot.

[DoctorJoJo]

37. More Info Link:

https://www.politicususa.com/2018/07/04/rep-jim-jordans-sex-abuse-scandal-is-getting-much-much-worse.html

[comradebillyboy]

62. Jordan is in deep doodoo.

[randr]

38. After all he is Republican and will be forgiven

[BlueJac]

39. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy!

[Bradshaw3]

40. But that would mean Jordan is lying

[malaise]

44. Jimbo is wrestling with his own thoughts and memories

about now.

[Bradshaw3]

45. Good one

Anything that causes this asshole to lose sleep is great.

[malaise]

47. So true

Lock him Up!

[redstateblues]

57. Paul Ryan did not exactly give him a ringing endorsement