Avenatti will run against 45 if no decent challenger

[BigmanPigman]

steps up in 2020. Heard on CNN just now.

[brush]

1. Hmmm? He'd certainly whip trump's ass in the debates.

But we have a deep bench of candidates for 2020.

I say he's welcome to throw his hat in the ring though.

[BigmanPigman]

2. He is confident and can hold his own

which is a big plus if you are going against the con man.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. The same was true of Hillary.

We need someone who actually has extensive experience in government and will understand at a Ph.D. level how to fix the mess Trump will leave behind. Avenatti isn't that person.

[CousinIT]

12. Many males would not vote for Hillary regardless experience or ability to fight Trump.

Because she's female.

How do I know that? THEY TOLD ME SO.

And many analyses of the 2016 "election" show the biggest predictor of a Trump voter was racism and/or sexism.

[BigmanPigman]

24. EVERY WORD!

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

33. Totally agree.

The Avenatti /Trump Show is getting old imho. I'd like my life and my tv back. It's trump tv 24 hours a day, and it does'nt matter what news station you watch. ALL DAY LONG...trum trum trum...GD enough already.
As if NOTHING at all is going on that's newsworthy, but for the daily d trum update? I didn't sign up for dt to remove 4 years of my life in dedication to all things about him, and his rancid family.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. There will be a decent challenger, probably several of them.

Avenatti is just the latest shiny object, like Oprah Winfrey a few months ago.

[Tavarious Jackson]

19. Who is the decent challenger?

I don't see one that CAN WIN

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

21. Kamala Harris, Eric Holder, Sherrod Brown, Deval Patrick,

Joe Biden, Amy Klobuchar, Cory Booker, Elizabeth Warren, Adam Schiff, Mitch Landrieu, Steve Bullock, Jeff Merkley, to name a few. Who should be the nominee, and why, is up for plenty of debate. But we have a deep bench - deep enough that we don't need to look to a media-star trial lawyer with no experience in government.

[Tavarious Jackson]

23. Every person you mentioned is a super star in my book but..

I want a fighter! Someone who can win. It's not up to me anyway. I'm in Oregon...

[JI7]

25. They have won elections

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

34. Eric Swalwell...

[tman]

4. Yeah, No.

I never trusted this dude from the start. What happened to his bold "Trump won't last his term" predictions? Now he claims Trump will probably win again. I saw this coming months ago, and thus unfollowed him.

Average lawyer. Excellent publicity hound.

Oh and there will be a decent challenger.

[johnp3907]

6. I'm still waiting for the big bombshell he said he'd release "later today."

That was about three weeks ago.

[mchill]

7. I think he's had a a very successful

academic and trail career per bios here and there. I honestly think he is the type of personality we need to combat Trump. It certainly is not the election to promote a "boring" politician, should Trump manage to get to 2020.

[brush]

9. Agreed. He has the verbal chops to combat trump's campaign lies.

He won't be polite to the orange pustule, something we sorely need.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

14. But being able to campaign effectively isn't the same as

being able to govern effectively. Trump was an effective campaigner, in a nasty, twisted way that appealed only to nasty, twisted people (which there are a lot of, unfortunately), but with the help of the Russians it was just enough. As we have seen, however, he can't govern worth shit; all he does is tear everything down. You can say we need a good campaigner in order to win, which is true, but it's like the dog who chases cars and finally catches one: Now what? I can't support a candidate who lacks the knowledge and experience to govern well while holding the world's most difficult job. Campaigning is just marketing and salesmanship and it isn't enough.

[brush]

15. Avenatti is 100 times smarter than trump. He's smart enough to hire...

qualified people, unlike the orange imposter in the WH now.

I'm not touting him for pres. as we've got several strong candidates this time for a change, but he's welcome to throw his hat in the ring like anyone else.

What irritates me is why do we need repugs when we've got alleged Democrats attacking another Democrat without any proof.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

16. Who's "attacking" whom, without what proof?

[brush]

17. You're on the thread. Read the other posts.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

20. To suggest some Democrat might not be a good presidential candidate

is not "attacking" them. There are many Democrats; only a few will be viable candidates. If I say Oprah shouldn't run for president because she doesn't have the right experience (and I did say that), I'm not attacking her. Same goes for Avenatti. He's a trial lawyer/media figure who has never held public office. He, like Oprah, is not qualified to be president. That's my opinion and it's not an attack (I was also a trial lawyer; I'm also a Democrat, and I'm not qualified to be president either).

[brush]

22. You don't consider some of the other posts attacks?

Maybe it's residual from the primary but I for one am tired of Dems going after each other.

There are tons of reps and senators in office who were attorneys before running and winning office. Don't sell yourself short.

Avenatti certainly isn't. He's smart, confident, has media savvy, not bad to look at and has a high public profile. Not that bad a starting point when you think about it.

I prefer Harris or Kennedy or Shiff myself but I'll stay positive on Avenatti. He's on our side. That's one thing we should learn from repugs. They rarely attack each other—trump being the exception of course.

[PSPS]

8. Yes, we all know how well it works when someone with zero governing experience is president.

What is the allure of electing a fictional cartoon character? (Reagan, Schwarzenegger, Ventura, Trump, etc.)

[SWBTATTReg]

10. Anybody w/ a conscience could and should run against this perfect example of a greedy capitalist

PIG or this poor example of a narcissistic human being (rump).

Of all of the people that our repug brothers and sisters had to pick to run, they had to pick rump? I laugh.

How pathetic. Especially when you have examples like Rev. Graham, or rep. Cotton, or rep. Lee, or lots of other rabid republicans, you had to pick rump of all people to represent you, a so called billionaire? This alone strains one's credibility when you really think about it, and actually kind of validates senate conclusions that yes, elections were tampered with. Who in their right mind would pick a person like rump to be president? Especially now after we've seen what's he's actually like, a petulant and spoiled brat?

I am thinking that these people needs glasses and hearing aids...lots and lots of them. Unfortunately they haven't made enough of them to help.


AVENATTI is a very good example of who to pick for a candidate. To me, he's the silver of a silver plated fork. He's the flame of a lit candle. He's the berry of my favorite jam. He's the diamond in my favorite piece of jewel, etc. You get the point.

I kind of doubt he'll run though...too much hassle and effort and perhaps just a tad wishful thinking on our part?

[Garrett78]

11. There will be numerous challengers who are more than decent, and more qualified.

Stick with being a lawyer, Mr. Avenatti.

[mythology]

13. In other words, Avenatti wants attention.

He's useless.

[phleshdef]

18. I imagine he is just saying this to fuck with Trump.

Unlike Milo Y., who claims to be a virtuous troll, Avenatti actually is a virtuous troll.

[fallout87]

26. He's a sideshow

That will not help the Democratic Party in 2020. I see this as nothing more than a publicity stunt.

[Civic Justice]

31. your viewing may be off... if you consider him a sideshow---

one then may consider he moved to make curtain calls upon the Presidents man, and exposed much about the President, with even more to come in the exposure of those who stand with the President and those who stand guard around him.

I would say, it is far from having been to this date, a side show.

[fallout87]

32. He was told by a judge

in the Stormy case that he can either be her counsel, or he can be a character on TV...


He chose TV. That's all I need to know about him.

[greatauntoftriplets]

27. In which party?

[leftofcool]

28. I would vote for him.

Smart like Obama, lawyer like Obama, cares about the right issues, can debate really well, hates Trump. Yep, I can handle that.

[Salviati]

29. Please no.

One amateur in the white house has been more than enough.

[Civic Justice]

30. Avenatti has put Trump and Cohen against the wall... we have to respect that!!!

We have to regard the representation he gave Stormy, and in doing so.. Trump went into panic and Cohen is now facing more than he ever imagined.

Those who claim he is just seeking attention, may well need to give credit to what he has achieved. He has shown the public a regard for the downtrodden and stood against the abuse of malice, to hide the truths that we now know to be true.

IF of nothing else, many who stand in the frame and claim of Democracy as Democrats, must be thankful for what he has done and the results that have come forth.

Where he goes from here and what he does with the voice he presents.... we don't know.... but we can respect what he has shown up to this day and time.

When the power of the Presidency and that which stand behind the President fighting him like a wild beast, he did not waver nor fall back, he pursue facts an stood with them.

[MineralMan]

35. No, thanks...

No snowboard. We need a pro.

[Tarc]

36. The Democratic Party is not going to nominate a celebrity, we're smarter than that

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Everytime some meatball taking head brings up Oprah or anther flavor-of-the-moment, I and move on.

This is not worthy of comment.