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babylonsister

(171,056 posts)
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 05:33 PM Jul 2018

Rhode Island Dems in uproar as party seeks to oust three progressive women


Rhode Island Dems in uproar as party seeks to oust three progressive women
At the same time, the party is standing by a lawmaker who has been charged with sexual assault and perjury. It also backed a former lawmaker who has been arrested several times.
by Alex Seitz-Wald / Jul.03.2018 / 3:15 PM ET / Updated Jul.03.2018 / 5:18 PM ET


WASHINGTON — As it tries to fend off a progressive insurgency, the Democratic Party in one of the bluest states in the country is facing open revolt after endorsing candidates — including a Trump-voting former Republican — in primaries against three progressive women up for re-election this year.

Progressives across the country say they're fighting an out-of-touch party establishment, but nowhere are the battle lines more clearly drawn than Rhode Island, where the state is run largely by Democrats who oppose abortion rights and get "A" ratings from the National Rifle Association.

The long-simmering fight burst into the open this week after the Rhode Island Democratic Party released its slate of endorsements, which critics say is aimed at punishing three women who ousted old-guard incumbents two years ago.

Meanwhile, the party stood by a lawmaker who has previously been indicted on charges of sexual assault and is accused of domestic abuse, and who is currently under indictment on perjury charges. It also backed a former lawmaker with multiple arrests on his record, including one in 1994 vehicular homicide, over the vice chair of the Rhode Island Democratic Party Women's Caucus.

The endorsements have sparked rebellion in the state, and not just from the left.

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/rhode-island-dems-uproar-party-seeks-oust-three-progressive-women-n888666
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Rhode Island Dems in uproar as party seeks to oust three progressive women (Original Post) babylonsister Jul 2018 OP
Those women need to be applauded and supported, not driven away. CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2018 #1
Hear, hear! GreenPartyVoter Jul 2018 #2
Yes. Sophia4 Jul 2018 #31
This is a disgrace. What the hell have we become? nt Ferrets are Cool Jul 2018 #3
Fuck that shit. Tactical Peek Jul 2018 #4
Finally! The progressive insurgency has arrived! I support it. Tatiana Jul 2018 #5
+1000 smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #6
Me too! +1000! nt scarletwoman Jul 2018 #10
Thanks for posting. I made a donation to all three. SharonClark Jul 2018 #11
As a Rhode Islander bdamomma Jul 2018 #12
I gave Moira Walsh $20 RandySF Jul 2018 #29
Why is the first thing I think -- old white men WhiteTara Jul 2018 #7
How did Rhode Island end up this way ? The state party run by anti choice and NRA thugs ? JI7 Jul 2018 #8
There has been rampant, mafia-tinged corruption in RI politics for decades Tarc Jul 2018 #9
Tarc bdamomma Jul 2018 #13
Rhode Island politics is a weird mix of unions, socially conservative Democrats and corruption hack89 Jul 2018 #45
This is disgraceful. AtomicKitten Jul 2018 #14
Where in California is this supposedly happening? R B Garr Jul 2018 #15
The entrenched establishment Democrats are defying progressive policy AtomicKitten Jul 2018 #16
That is not what happened. No numbers were provided R B Garr Jul 2018 #17
Democrats who take corporate money work for their donors, not the people. AtomicKitten Jul 2018 #18
This is what I'm talking about. Empty insults that R B Garr Jul 2018 #19
A statement of fact is not an empty insult nor an exaggeration. /nt AtomicKitten Jul 2018 #20
It is when you don't provide context mythology Jul 2018 #21
The "context" you've added is your opinion. AtomicKitten Jul 2018 #23
This is another perfect example of biased or omitted "facts" R B Garr Jul 2018 #25
And you ignore the fact that top Democrats in California AtomicKitten Jul 2018 #35
These are just biased talking points, not facts. R B Garr Jul 2018 #36
They are facts. Apparently unpleasant hard cold facts. AtomicKitten Jul 2018 #37
They are not facts. They are your interpretations R B Garr Jul 2018 #42
Ugh, and I see how you completely distort what Democrats R B Garr Jul 2018 #38
Exactly! It was submitted as more of a "values statement". R B Garr Jul 2018 #27
Only facts that support a biased viewpoint are presented. R B Garr Jul 2018 #24
It is true. The established Democratic Party is not listening to younger dissenters Sophia4 Jul 2018 #32
It is not what happened. One man's campaign is not R B Garr Jul 2018 #34
We weren't going single payer we were going the way of Germany. joshcryer Jul 2018 #43
Those are literally things the Republicans have done... joshcryer Jul 2018 #41
Too strong language for someone not in RI. nt greyl Jul 2018 #26
Kick Tatiana Jul 2018 #22
I gave Moira Walsh $20 RandySF Jul 2018 #28
Awesome! I think she will put it to good use. Tatiana Jul 2018 #30
There is ratfucking going on in my state RhodeIslandOne Jul 2018 #33
Of note, Bernie won the Rhode Island primary by around an 11% margin CentralMass Jul 2018 #39
I know RhodeIslandOne Jul 2018 #40
Incredible (but not necessarily surprising given the attacks on liberals/progressives of late). demmiblue Jul 2018 #44
WTF?!?!? Tom Rinaldo Jul 2018 #46

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,593 posts)
1. Those women need to be applauded and supported, not driven away.
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 05:37 PM
Jul 2018

The tactics by the so-called Democratic Party make me very angry. There is no way they should be supporting those candidates with their checkered histories.



Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
5. Finally! The progressive insurgency has arrived! I support it.
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 06:15 PM
Jul 2018
The liberal high school teacher ousted a 24-year incumbent who served as House majority leader in 2016. Now, the state party has endorsed a professor at a Catholic university who signed a letter supporting Ireland's abortion ban, which was recently overturned.

"Quite frankly, they are not used to women of color, black women, standing up," Ranglin-Vassell said.


Oh, but it looks like they are going to learn. I've long said, I think 2018 is going to be the Year of the Woman. These ladies are tough.

And I am kicking in a bit of cash in support:

Donate to Friends of Marcia Ranglin-Vassell

Support Moira Walsh for State Representative

Jeanine For Senate

RI is a blue state and there is NO WAY the Democratic Party should be supporting a self-proclaimed TRUMP VOTER. WTF!!!!????

Time for the national party to step in here!

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
9. There has been rampant, mafia-tinged corruption in RI politics for decades
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 08:25 PM
Jul 2018

That has touched both parties. It's not a pretty place, politically.

bdamomma

(63,837 posts)
13. Tarc
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 10:07 PM
Jul 2018

are you from RI, geez we have been known to be true blue Dems in a very blue state. I will stand up to these thugs they better not ruin my state.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
45. Rhode Island politics is a weird mix of unions, socially conservative Democrats and corruption
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 12:30 PM
Jul 2018

while it a blue state it certainly is not a progressive state.

It also has a unique state constitution that ensures the speaker of the house is the most powerful politician in the state.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
14. This is disgraceful.
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 10:11 PM
Jul 2018

These women should be embraced. California is dealing with the same kind of fuckery. I'm sending donations albeit small to all three women to let them know we've got their backs.

Thanks babylonsister.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
15. Where in California is this supposedly happening?
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 10:16 PM
Jul 2018

This kind of constant negativity and exaggeration turns people off, so that may be what you are seeing.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
16. The entrenched establishment Democrats are defying progressive policy
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 10:23 PM
Jul 2018

... by, for instance, stopping in its tracks universal healthcare and gutting net neutrality.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
17. That is not what happened. No numbers were provided
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 10:29 PM
Jul 2018

with their proposal for single payer, so it couldn’t go forward. Who could not understand that?

I will have to Google the net neutrality issue, but if it’s like the other insults against everyday Democrats, it looks like people are pushing back on the negativity and exaggeration.

If you can’t make it in liberal California, maybe something is wrong with the approach of empty insults.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
19. This is what I'm talking about. Empty insults that
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 11:34 PM
Jul 2018

don’t reflect what actually happened. They are slanted articles for targeted audiences. Just a quick Google and LA Times provides more info that is not hyperbole meant to sensationalize talking points.

There is info about the single payer proposal which was submitted without numbers.

I was called a corporate Dem, lol. I think people are sick of the exaggerations.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
21. It is when you don't provide context
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 12:00 AM
Jul 2018

The single payer "plan" in California was absolute garbage. It didn't include a funding plan. It was a joke of a plan and the people pushing it should be embarrassed. How is that any different than Republicans passing a tax cut that they pretend will pay for itself with absurdly optimistic revenue generation assumptions?

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
25. This is another perfect example of biased or omitted "facts"
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 01:10 AM
Jul 2018

You refuse to accept the fact that the single payer funding numbers were omitted because it doesn’t fit your worldview. This kind of bias isn’t fact.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
35. And you ignore the fact that top Democrats in California
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 03:10 AM
Jul 2018

... take tons of money from corporations and do their bidding. It is no coincidence that Rendon takes a ton of money from the pharmaceutical and healthcare industry and recently refused to move a Senate-passed universal healthcare bill to the Assembly for a vote, nor that Santiago whose #1 donor is AT&T singlehandedly gutted what was felt to be the gold standard net neutrality bill.

You are welcome to argue on their behalf, but I for one have a huge problem with them taking corporate money and doing their bidding.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
36. These are just biased talking points, not facts.
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 03:15 AM
Jul 2018

You ignore the fact that the numbers were left off the single payer proposal and instead pretend that corporations are somehow responsible. It’s absurd, and people see through it. You are doing just what I said might be the real problem — empty unsubstantiated insults.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
37. They are facts. Apparently unpleasant hard cold facts.
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 03:32 AM
Jul 2018

Again you are welcome to argue on their behalf, make excuses for and try to move others off the scent, but corporatists take corporate money and do the bidding of corporations.

This is precisely why good public servants don't take corporate money - because they work for us without the impediment of being beholden to corporate donors - the platform on which Alexandria Ocuna-Cortez won and won big - the platform which many of us care very much about.

Goodnight. The last word is yours.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
42. They are not facts. They are your interpretations
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 04:00 AM
Jul 2018

and glaring omissions, all of which fit a certain campaign. That’s it. The fact that you omit a fact about the lack of funding numbers in the single payer just shows how distorted those views are. That kind of exaggeration looks like it is being rejected.

Look at you trying to pretend I have to “throw people off the scent” — lol, what exaggeration. This just makes people roll their eyes at the absurdity. I just read the news and the fact about the single payer budget numbers being omitted and then I see people blaming corporations, lol.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
38. Ugh, and I see how you completely distort what Democrats
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 03:36 AM
Jul 2018

are doing on net neutrality. Read the names of the Democrats who have called Santiago out! There’s more that I noticed about the bill which you don’t mention and it makes me wonder why.

Please quit distorting issues. This looks to be the problem. I’m glad people in California are on to this.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
27. Exactly! It was submitted as more of a "values statement".
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 01:12 AM
Jul 2018

No numbers were provided. It has been used as a way to attack elected Democrats. Very dishonest. Looks like people in California are on to the deception.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
24. Only facts that support a biased viewpoint are presented.
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 01:07 AM
Jul 2018

Other facts are omitted or misrepresented. Anyway, whatever you say is happening in California is targeted rhetoric.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
32. It is true. The established Democratic Party is not listening to younger dissenters
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 02:29 AM
Jul 2018

and more progressive members. They need to get along, and they aren't. It is very important to make all members feel welcome.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
34. It is not what happened. One man's campaign is not
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 02:50 AM
Jul 2018

what is happening in California if you look beyond biased third party talking points. I’ve seen what you’ve written about Biden, Feinstein, etc. and the anti-Democrat/Establishment slant just as you are pushing now. Hillary solidly won here; Feinstein is solidly ahead. What you are saying doesn’t match reality, sorry.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
43. We weren't going single payer we were going the way of Germany.
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 04:00 AM
Jul 2018

But "muh single payer!"

Either way we were and are eventually going to have universal health care. It's just a talking point from the hostile fringe.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
22. Kick
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 12:35 AM
Jul 2018

Also, thanks to babylonsister for bringing this very important issue to the community's attention. They are trying to fuck over progressive Democrats in Rhode Island -- a place where liberals should be thriving, not anti-choice Trump-supporting Dems (WTF... I can't get over this. What Democrat would vote for Trump?)

This is old-fashioned Rovian/Republican fuckery and we must stand against it.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
30. Awesome! I think she will put it to good use.
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 01:36 AM
Jul 2018
In order to win we are going to have to send mailers, stuff envelopes, and feed volunteers. Unfortunately, all of these things cost money. A gift of even just a few dollars could make a huge difference in a race like this. Please support me and more importantly support our fight for a stronger neighborhood.

- Moira


This sounds like old-fashioned, solid campaigning. And we need to support candidates who don't want to take corporate or special interest $$$.
 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
33. There is ratfucking going on in my state
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 02:49 AM
Jul 2018

I recently received a mailer accusing my State Senator, Jim Seveney of being some "far left extreme" yadda yadda Bernie Sanders loving socialist.

Jim's a good guy, obviously, but he's a pretty rankin file Democrat. I've never heard him advocate for Sanders or many of his positions other than expanding health care and education which most Dems in my part of the state do and I assume he supported Hillary.

This mailer came from something called "The Gaspee Project". I'm trying to investigate them. They claim to be "JFK Democrats" who support the second amendment and I assume Donald Trump.

Here's the bottom line. There are a lot of people who run as Democrats WHO ARE NOT. They are in it for one thing, themselves. They are going to destroy the Democratic party in this state because they are so corrupt they can't see straight. Mattielo (House Speaker) is a scumbag who has openly told people he does not support a lot of progressive issues and I KNOW TOLD A REPUBLICAN FRIEND OF MINE "The Senate is not going to dictate their gay lesbian abortion agenda to me anymore. They got gay marriage now they can shut up!"

I've passed a note along to David Ciccilline about all this. Our Governor Gina Raimondo (who I'm not a fan of) has taken the correct position on this, and better watch out because she will be targeted next. These fuckers are probably hoping to oust her too and put in Republican slimeball Alan Fung to use as a puppet. They've already dug up someone from the past to primary her.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
40. I know
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 03:45 AM
Jul 2018

I did not follow what the polls were saying and literally did not make the decision until I got in the booth and put pen to ballot.

demmiblue

(36,841 posts)
44. Incredible (but not necessarily surprising given the attacks on liberals/progressives of late).
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 12:06 PM
Jul 2018

Shame on them.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
46. WTF?!?!?
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 12:45 PM
Jul 2018

"State Rep. Marcia Ranglin-Vassell is one of just eight African-Americans in the state legislature and, according to her tally, seven of them are now facing challenges in the Sept. 12 primary.

The liberal high school teacher ousted a 24-year incumbent who served as House majority leader in 2016. Now, the state party has endorsed a professor at a Catholic university who signed a letter supporting Ireland's abortion ban, which was recently overturned.

"Quite frankly, they are not used to women of color, black women, standing up," Ranglin-Vassell said.

Freshman Rep. Moira Jayne Walsh, 27, who has been outspoken about what she sees as a culture of corruption in the State House, lost her party's endorsement to Michael Earnheart, who voted for President Donald Trump."




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