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History has a lesson: Courtesy and civility are no way to oppose creeping authoritarianism. They only enable itCHAUNCEY DEVEGA JULY 3, 2018 3:30PM (UTC)
You know, theres probably never been a base in the history of politics in this country like my base. I hope the other side realizes that they better just take it easy. They better just take it easy because some of the language used, some of the words used, even some of the radical ideas, I really think they are very bad for the country. I think they're actually very dangerous for the country.
This is only the most recent example of Trump's violent inclinations. We could list all the threats he has made against immigrants, protesters, political opponents and members of the press. Last week, Trump appeared to threaten Rep. Maxine Waters, a long-serving Democrat from California, attacking her on Twitter:
Congresswoman Maxine Waters, an extraordinarily low IQ person, has become, together with Nancy Pelosi, the Face of the Democrat Party. She has just called for harm to supporters, of which there are many, of the Make America Great Again movement. Be careful what you wish for Max!
Trump found an audience: After receiving specific threats of harm -- including references to lynching -- Waters canceled several public appearances.
https://www.salon.com/2018/07/03/forget-civility-take-donald-trumps-threats-of-violence-seriously-before-its-too-late/
spanone
(135,828 posts)olegramps
(8,200 posts)Rather than appealing to mankind's higher nature for compassion, understanding, inclusion and peace, he has stroke the worst aspects. He has totally abandon the policies of past presidents that called for unity as the hall mark of our nation as the path to address needs. He is without a shred of doubt dedicated to exploiting the needs of those that have been left behind just as the fascists did during the the 1930's. In stead of calm, he encourages the most divisive of the radical extremists who have branded liberalism, the very foundation of our constitution, as un-American, immoral. I am convinced that he would welcome a civil war with the hope that he would emerge as the supreme leader of an authoritarian presidency.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)I broke down in tears as I saw in the museum exhibits how the Nazis used the SAME rhetoric Trump uses today. What have we become?
WhiteTara
(29,704 posts)olegramps
(8,200 posts)He said that he was never able to bury the images of the atrocities that helpless human beings subjected to. The Nazi's dehumanized the Jews to such an extent that they were regarded as little more than beasts that should be rightfully exterminated. Is this we are headed? Do we have yet another madman at the controls?
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Today, of course, Dachau is clean, and even serene. But the camps has been well preserved as a memorial and warning. And most devastating to me, the crematory ovens are still there, complete with the iron rings set into the rafters where condemned detainees where hanged, right in front of the ovens.
I was a blubbering mess. And it seems like we are not that far from this now. The reconstructed barracks immediately brought to mind the images of children in cages.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Yes at a frightening pace and yes, Trump has used Hitler's playbook to perfection so far.
See this: Big lie
Usage in Hitler's psychological profile
The phrase was also used in a report prepared during the war by the United States Office of Strategic Services in describing Hitler's psychological profile:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie
Tell me that excerpt is not Trump's SOP 100%!
lunatica
(53,410 posts)is the first step. ICE is the new Gestapo in the making.
Its taking shape before our very eyes.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)The corporate media, not talking about fake news and hate radio who are more inclined to worship shithole, but the ones, i.e. CNN, MSNBC, etc. who for the most part ignores the threats as a isolated incidents, such as the murdered 5 journalist in which t-rump's hands are all over what happened to them "the media is the enemy". Or t-rump's speeches which has "white nationalist" all over it.
Divide and conquer at any means necessary.
I think corporate media/MSM are absolutely killing freedom and democracy in this country by letting Orange Hitler get away with his crimes and daily outrages that they would have murdered President Obama or a President HRC over.
Of course the state propaganda organs, Fox "news" and hate radio will back every evil thing Dotard does including kidnapping babies at the borders and locking them up in dog cages, but where is the bloody outrage in the MSM over this and a hundred other crimes this lawless president, his family and administration have committed??
***crickets*** is all I get from them as Dear Leader takes down America and the liberal western alliance in service of a fascist foreign dictator who regularly murders his opponents in the press. Bone Spurs feels the same way about them, obviously.
You would think the press would be interested in their own safety if nothing else but so far, I don't see it.
jmbar2
(4,874 posts)They seem to be bending over backwards to air voices critical to Trump and his policies, and then, "on the other hand..."
The interview with Robert Menendez this morning on Trump's summit with Kim Jong Un was a prime example. Menendez was pointing out that Trump got pwned by KJU, while getting nothing in return. The interviewer comes back with R talking points.
https://www.npr.org/2018/07/05/626066128/trumps-deal-with-north-korea-was-anemic-sen-menendez-says
I can imagine in a few years a similar interview criticizing US concentration camps, and hearing from NPR, "On the other hand, they're getting free tattoos aren't they?"
TryLogic
(1,723 posts)Too often they are just providing a forum for right wing BS. They need to learn from Rachel who reports what is actually being done rather than what they are saying. The right wing cabal is a propaganda machine. Lying liars as an observant person once pointed out.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)strangedaysindeed
(226 posts)They've reverted to the Animalistic side of human nature. not much going on upstairs, like many common beasts.
And That's an insult to the beasts.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)And what if we don't take it easy don?
DBoon
(22,362 posts)He is preparing them for a shooting war
This is not a joke
pazzyanne
(6,549 posts)This post changes how I view that. I felt the need to go out and buy a gun today. Only the understanding that guns NEVER SOLVE PROBLEMS keeps me from doing that. If this is suppose to be a joke, NEWSFLASH: IT IS NOT A JOKE. IT IS A THREAT AGAINST PEOPLE'S LIVES.
marieo1
(1,402 posts)Does that piece of XXXXX really believe he can get away with saying things like that? I've got news for DJT so far this is not Russia, where you can make threats actually take place!!
llmart
(15,536 posts)he has gotten away with it. He's been spewing his shit since the campaign and there have been zero consequences to him.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)all for the supreme purpose of making him feel like a big man (power), and lining his pockets (money).
TryLogic
(1,723 posts)And related... Trump has said he loves to fight, about anything. Clearly, if there is nothing to fight about, he creates something. And people who are psychologically compelled to fight as he is have developed a "mean streak". Add to this his desire to be some sort of godfather dictator, and we have someone who needs to be locked up.
gtar100
(4,192 posts)It shouldn't be "us versus them" when it comes to presidential responsibilities. Color me surprised though that tRump and his minions take it like a competition.