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MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 10:48 AM Jul 2018

When TV Weather Gets It All Wrong

Here in the Twin Cities metro area of Minnesota, the 4th of July weather forecast was dire. A Heat Emergency was declared, with Heat Index readings of 100-104 degrees. Severe thunderstorms were predicted for the 4th.

Emergency! Everybody to Get From Street!

People cancelled their holiday plans, bought cases of "hydrating fluids" and barricaded themselves in their air-conditioned homes. Cities opened "cooling centers" for the elderly and poor, so they could avoid "heat illness."

The freeways were empty as my wife and I drove over to a friend's house on a lake. Nobody went out, in an "abundance of caution." We were prepared for the heat emergency, and had stocked our cooler with refreshing beverages so we could stay properly hydrated.

So, the temperature never got above 80 degrees. It didn't even rain on the afternoon of the 4th. We still consumed plenty of beverages, though, and consumed twice as much food as planned, since most of our friend's guests opted out due to the "heat emergency." There were no thunderstorms either.

The TV weather lady this morning, though, didn't even mention the mistaken forecast. How embarrassing...

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When TV Weather Gets It All Wrong (Original Post) MineralMan Jul 2018 OP
Sounds like the day the dam broke.... lapucelle Jul 2018 #1
Delightful! MineralMan Jul 2018 #2
If You Like That Story Leith Jul 2018 #18
It depended on where you are in the metro dflprincess Jul 2018 #3
We were in Medicine Lake at that time. MineralMan Jul 2018 #4
Hurricane Irene passed us by treestar Jul 2018 #5
Yes. Preparation is important. MineralMan Jul 2018 #9
We were taught some signs treestar Jul 2018 #11
I'm a California guy. Since we moved to Minnesota, MineralMan Jul 2018 #12
one of my cousins was known for sleeping through the earthquake treestar Jul 2018 #13
I've slept through several earthquakes. MineralMan Jul 2018 #14
I was sleeping in Pasadena that night -- believe me, I felt it! fierywoman Jul 2018 #20
I was in San Luis Obispo County then. MineralMan Jul 2018 #21
I was a houseguest in a home where the husband was a big-shot earthquake scientist. fierywoman Jul 2018 #22
Now, we can go immediately to the USGS earthquake pages MineralMan Jul 2018 #23
I always enjoyed the (I think it was...) Cal Tech lady who used to have briefings fierywoman Jul 2018 #24
As I always say, if you want weather info, look out the window! cornball 24 Jul 2018 #6
As my wife's late father said once, MineralMan Jul 2018 #7
Well, it is important to know how to cope... Wounded Bear Jul 2018 #8
Indeed! MineralMan Jul 2018 #10
Well, we got that weather you didn't. kwassa Jul 2018 #15
Yes! A lot of the country did. MineralMan Jul 2018 #16
This is the worst stretch in years ... kwassa Jul 2018 #28
Mineral... AZ8theist Jul 2018 #17
I've referred to that particular scene often. MineralMan Jul 2018 #19
me too!! AZ8theist Jul 2018 #27
That's the problem with climate change lunatica Jul 2018 #25
Sometimes those summer thunderstorm systems surprise even the experts. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #26
the pop-up thunderstorm ... kwassa Jul 2018 #29
around 2pm in milw. it was sunny, then a brief downpour & a little thunder. pansypoo53219 Jul 2018 #30

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
3. It depended on where you are in the metro
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 11:13 AM
Jul 2018

It rained quite hard in Bloomington between 2 and 3
It also got quite muggy, though the temperature took a dive after the rain.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
4. We were in Medicine Lake at that time.
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 11:17 AM
Jul 2018

It sprinkled a little. Still, there was no "Heat Emergency" anywhere in the metro, I think.

It's just funny, really. In other parts of the country, though, heat really was an issue. But we had a little cold front move through that kept the temps down. Lucky us, really.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
9. Yes. Preparation is important.
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 11:21 AM
Jul 2018

Still, with all of our technology, we still get it wrong sometimes when it comes to weather predictions. It's way better than it used to be, though. Back in the day, the first you knew of a tornado was when you heard it approaching your house.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
11. We were taught some signs
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 11:23 AM
Jul 2018

like the sky turning green in the northwest or something like that. But never had a tornado here. Midwestern DUers likely know more.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
12. I'm a California guy. Since we moved to Minnesota,
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 11:29 AM
Jul 2018

the sirens have gone off twice in my neighborhood, but no tornado. Still, we did go down in the basement and turned on WCCO-AM 830 to listen to the weather guy.

Earthquakes were the worry in CA. There's never a warning about those. You're doing whatever, and things start shaking. My wife, who is a Minnesota and Illinois girl, really never got used to earthquakes. They rattled her pretty badly whenever they happened. Me? I never got too excited by them. The first one I remember happened when I was 4 years old. It rolled me out of bed and woke me up. I didn't understand how I got onto the floor. Seemed funny at the time.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
13. one of my cousins was known for sleeping through the earthquake
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 11:31 AM
Jul 2018

in SoCal in the early 70s. It was 6.5 or so. He was a teenager. He missed it.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
14. I've slept through several earthquakes.
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 11:43 AM
Jul 2018

My wife woke me up one morning, saying, "Did you feel that?" I didn't. That was the day of the Northridge Earthquake in the 90s. About 150 miles south of where we lived. My brother's house was shaken off its foundation in that one, and had to be demolished and rebuilt. But, I slept through it.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
21. I was in San Luis Obispo County then.
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 01:24 PM
Jul 2018

My wife said it was quite a roller. That was pre-Internet, but I got the information and realized that it had affected my old home town.

fierywoman

(7,683 posts)
22. I was a houseguest in a home where the husband was a big-shot earthquake scientist.
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 03:31 PM
Jul 2018

We all jumped out of bed when it struck around 3 a.m. After it stopped shaking he went immediately back to bed, saying, "There won't be any real info about this for hours." My friend his wife and I sat glued to the tv, waiting and hearing nothing real for hours (of course)! Then for days afterwards he would come home at night and tell us of all the gnarly stuff that the media wouldn't report on. I learned what liquifaction was that week.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
23. Now, we can go immediately to the USGS earthquake pages
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 03:34 PM
Jul 2018

and find out what's going on. Back then, those resources weren't so easily available.

fierywoman

(7,683 posts)
24. I always enjoyed the (I think it was...) Cal Tech lady who used to have briefings
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 03:36 PM
Jul 2018

every day. She was really cool.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
15. Well, we got that weather you didn't.
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 11:52 AM
Jul 2018

We've had it for days. Over 100 with the heat index. Suburbs of DC. Very high humidity.

Spent all morning of the 4th at our community parade, then went to a house party in the afternoon. I stayed in air-conditioning, the kids played out back on a waterslide and a dunk tank. I felt the effects of the heat the rest of the day. I think I drank a gallon of water over the course of the day. Some dizziness, a little nausea, aside from sweating completely through my clothes at the parade.

Storms tomorrow with a cooling trend. I can't wait.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
16. Yes! A lot of the country did.
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 12:05 PM
Jul 2018

Here in Minneapolis and St. Paul, we were right on the northwestern edge of it. Things shifted just a little to the South and East, and we dodged the high temperatures by just a few miles, really.

What went through here will get to you, as the weather pattern moves. We cooled off a little earlier than the meteorologists predicted, because the edge of that hot mass of air moved a few miles. It's interesting. For the rest of the midwest and southward, that edge hasn't reached those areas yet.

Relief is on its way.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
28. This is the worst stretch in years ...
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 04:46 PM
Jul 2018

of really bad days in a row.

A friend from Alabama once told me that DC can be just as hot and awful as Alabama in the summer, but there are fewer days of it. We've had five days in a row.

AZ8theist

(5,454 posts)
17. Mineral...
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 12:22 PM
Jul 2018

I love the reference to the movie "The Russians are Coming, The Russians are Coming!"

Classic comedy from the 60's.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
26. Sometimes those summer thunderstorm systems surprise even the experts.
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 03:42 PM
Jul 2018

They change course and build up pretty fast. I'm glad it didn't get hot as predicted but it was tropically humid anyhow.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
29. the pop-up thunderstorm ...
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 04:50 PM
Jul 2018

when the conditions are right, it is like spontaneous combustion.

I've looked at doppler radar, seen nothing, and then been hit by thunderstorms 20 minutes later.

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