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Jim Jordan should get what he denies others: The benefit of the doubt
The chief justice of the US court of public opinion is himself in the hot seat and facing uncomfortable allegations of serious wrongdoing.
On Tuesday, NBC News published a report indicating the fiery Rep. Jim Jordan, a Republican from Ohio, stands accused of turning a blind eye to alleged acts of molestation by a doctor working for the wrestling team Jordan assistant-coached at The Ohio State University.
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A chief problem for Jordan is that he now finds himself in the unenviable position of proving a negative, assuring the public and his constituents that he did not know about the alleged abuse.
His problem is exacerbated by the fact that he is so often known as a political firebrand who frequently leaps to conclusions while investigations are still underway. Take, for example, his central role in drawing conclusions from disparate pieces of information about surveillance abuse and suggesting the FBI was out to get President c Trump, even while a DOJ inspector general investigation looking into these allegations had not yet been completed.
If we were to apply Jordan's standard of drawing conclusions without full facts, it would be hard to simply accept his full-throated denial in the Ohio State molestation matter.
With that said, and even though Jordan appears to operate on a different set of standards than he wishes himself to be judged, we should not engage in the type of character assassination that has made him famous.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/03/opinions/jim-jordan-opinion-campbell/index.html
ck4829
(35,041 posts)CrispyQ
(36,440 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,620 posts)is that good enough?
irisblue
(32,951 posts)Hint....civility
"With that said, and even though Jordan appears to operate on a different set of standards than he wishes himself to be judged, we should not engage in the type of character assassination that has made him famous.
He should be presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty. Perhaps we can model a lesson in decency if we withhold judgment, wait for the facts, and afford him the same level of civility he so often denies others."
In court, yeah, " presumed innocent", in court of public opinion..."civility!" yeah Josh Campbell, that's the standard.
Jim__
(14,072 posts)Garrett78
(10,721 posts)LXY123
(14 posts)Disagree-hang his a**.
mythology
(9,527 posts)cyclonefence
(4,483 posts)if not in outright breaking of the law. Why is it wrong to discuss this? It would take superhuman self-control for anyone not to experience a little schadenfreude every time one of these "law and order" and "family values" type guys gets caught with his pants down, or, in this case, knowing that some other pants were down. But being gleeful about the pot of trouble sanctimonious Jim Jordan finds himself in isn't incivil. Nobody I've heard of is yelling "nyah-nyah-nyah" at him or even refusing to serve him his club sandwich. If you're a public figure and you're accused of doing a bad thing, it's going to be talked about, and people who don't like you will be happy. If that's news to Jim Jordan, he needs to pursue another line of work.
dhill926
(16,333 posts)duforsure
(11,885 posts)NONE!
pnwmom
(108,973 posts)Leith
(7,808 posts)rethugs never learn anything until they are forced to. If Jordan is treated kindly, rethugs will giggle behind our backs because of it. There should be congressional hearings on this with this rapist abetter with every Democrat giving him the same treatment he gave out.
Rub his nose in it.
Cha
(297,029 posts)the athletes. They loved him and were disappointed he was denying this.. according to an in depth article I read.
Powerful GOP Rep. Jim Jordan accused of turning blind eye to sexual abuse as Ohio State wrestling coach
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/powerful-gop-rep-jim-jordan-accused-turning-blind-eye-sexual-n888386
Demovictory9
(32,444 posts)yortsed snacilbuper
(7,939 posts)Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)H2O Man
(73,524 posts)He should be viewed as innocent within the legal system, though this will never be reviewed in criminal court. As far as the court of public opinion, there is no such standard. People can listen to everyone involved, and decide for themselves. The wrestlers' motivation was not to go after Jordan; they were seeking his support. More, Jordan's body language when lying to reporters yesterday indicated he knows he is facing exposure as the low-life he is.
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)Jim Jordan deserves a fucking character assassination. Exactly what he would do, nothing more.
For fucksake, when are people going to buy a fucking clue.
I am about ready to change my affiliation to Indy after reading all this lame shit tonight.