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Demovictory9

(32,444 posts)
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 02:49 PM Jul 2018

"Jim Jordan should get what he denies others: The benefit of the doubt"

Jim Jordan should get what he denies others: The benefit of the doubt

The chief justice of the US court of public opinion is himself in the hot seat and facing uncomfortable allegations of serious wrongdoing.

On Tuesday, NBC News published a report indicating the fiery Rep. Jim Jordan, a Republican from Ohio, stands accused of turning a blind eye to alleged acts of molestation by a doctor working for the wrestling team Jordan assistant-coached at The Ohio State University.

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A chief problem for Jordan is that he now finds himself in the unenviable position of proving a negative, assuring the public and his constituents that he did not know about the alleged abuse.

His problem is exacerbated by the fact that he is so often known as a political firebrand who frequently leaps to conclusions while investigations are still underway. Take, for example, his central role in drawing conclusions from disparate pieces of information about surveillance abuse and suggesting the FBI was out to get President c Trump, even while a DOJ inspector general investigation looking into these allegations had not yet been completed.

If we were to apply Jordan's standard of drawing conclusions without full facts, it would be hard to simply accept his full-throated denial in the Ohio State molestation matter.



With that said, and even though Jordan appears to operate on a different set of standards than he wishes himself to be judged, we should not engage in the type of character assassination that has made him famous.


https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/03/opinions/jim-jordan-opinion-campbell/index.html

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"Jim Jordan should get what he denies others: The benefit of the doubt" (Original Post) Demovictory9 Jul 2018 OP
Save it for the judge! ck4829 Jul 2018 #1
We can call him out for being a hypocrite, though. -nt CrispyQ Jul 2018 #2
Well, I doubt that he's telling the truth... Wounded Bear Jul 2018 #3
Last 2 paragraphs irisblue Jul 2018 #4
Jim Jordan should get what he deserves. Throw him out on his ass! - n/t Jim__ Jul 2018 #5
I'll say it again, he'd already be packing up his office if he were a Democrat. Garrett78 Jul 2018 #6
"Jim Jordan should get what he denies others: The benefit of the doubt" LXY123 Jul 2018 #7
Believe victims mythology Jul 2018 #8
He's been accused of being complicit in some pretty serious stuff cyclonefence Jul 2018 #9
fuck 'im.... dhill926 Jul 2018 #10
He deserves the same respect he's given Hillary and other Democrats duforsure Jul 2018 #11
Nope. Jim Jordan should be judged by his own standards. n/t pnwmom Jul 2018 #12
Hell NO! Leith Jul 2018 #13
There is no doubt.. I believe Cha Jul 2018 #14
the article author was just trying to take the high road, I guess Demovictory9 Jul 2018 #17
Yeah. Cha Jul 2018 #20
jim jo is a scumbag. yortsed snacilbuper Jul 2018 #15
Subpoena his phone calls. nt Snotcicles Jul 2018 #16
No. H2O Man Jul 2018 #18
God FUCKING DAMN IT rufus dog Jul 2018 #19

irisblue

(32,951 posts)
4. Last 2 paragraphs
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 03:05 PM
Jul 2018

Hint....civility

"With that said, and even though Jordan appears to operate on a different set of standards than he wishes himself to be judged, we should not engage in the type of character assassination that has made him famous.
He should be presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty. Perhaps we can model a lesson in decency if we withhold judgment, wait for the facts, and afford him the same level of civility he so often denies others."

In court, yeah, " presumed innocent", in court of public opinion..."civility!" yeah Josh Campbell, that's the standard.

cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
9. He's been accused of being complicit in some pretty serious stuff
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 03:16 PM
Jul 2018

if not in outright breaking of the law. Why is it wrong to discuss this? It would take superhuman self-control for anyone not to experience a little schadenfreude every time one of these "law and order" and "family values" type guys gets caught with his pants down, or, in this case, knowing that some other pants were down. But being gleeful about the pot of trouble sanctimonious Jim Jordan finds himself in isn't incivil. Nobody I've heard of is yelling "nyah-nyah-nyah" at him or even refusing to serve him his club sandwich. If you're a public figure and you're accused of doing a bad thing, it's going to be talked about, and people who don't like you will be happy. If that's news to Jim Jordan, he needs to pursue another line of work.

Leith

(7,808 posts)
13. Hell NO!
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 04:37 PM
Jul 2018

rethugs never learn anything until they are forced to. If Jordan is treated kindly, rethugs will giggle behind our backs because of it. There should be congressional hearings on this with this rapist abetter with every Democrat giving him the same treatment he gave out.

Rub his nose in it.

Cha

(297,029 posts)
14. There is no doubt.. I believe
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 05:21 PM
Jul 2018

the athletes. They loved him and were disappointed he was denying this.. according to an in depth article I read.

Powerful GOP Rep. Jim Jordan accused of turning blind eye to sexual abuse as Ohio State wrestling coach

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/powerful-gop-rep-jim-jordan-accused-turning-blind-eye-sexual-n888386

H2O Man

(73,524 posts)
18. No.
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 12:39 AM
Jul 2018

He should be viewed as innocent within the legal system, though this will never be reviewed in criminal court. As far as the court of public opinion, there is no such standard. People can listen to everyone involved, and decide for themselves. The wrestlers' motivation was not to go after Jordan; they were seeking his support. More, Jordan's body language when lying to reporters yesterday indicated he knows he is facing exposure as the low-life he is.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
19. God FUCKING DAMN IT
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 12:50 AM
Jul 2018

Jim Jordan deserves a fucking character assassination. Exactly what he would do, nothing more.

For fucksake, when are people going to buy a fucking clue.

I am about ready to change my affiliation to Indy after reading all this lame shit tonight.

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