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Like Lou Dobbs, Ed Schultz would say that he was a populist and claim that he was speaking for the American worker. However, like Lou Dobbs, Patrick Buchanan and Trump, Ed Schultz scapegoated immigration and trade. This is not just a right versus left issue and Ed Schultz is not the only progressive who has scapegoated immigrants and foreign trade for how American workers are falling behind. Immigrants and trade helped build America. America is a nation of immigrants.
Yet, sadly, even a so-called progressive like Ed Schultz can buy into the implicit racism in blaming the "other" when so much of why the working class has fallen behind is due to Republican attacks on education, the social safety net, and unions. Even unions have fallen for the scapegoating of immigrants and trade as is evidenced by the support Trump has drawn from many union workers. Of course, Russia happily cheered on the divisive politics of both Trump and Schultz because such racial animosity weakens America. America.
With Trump, we are clearly seeing how Trump uses racism to sell himself as a populist by attacking immigrants and trade while simultaneously rolling back worker protections and cutting taxes to the rich. Schultz did a disservice to American workers by not calling out Trump for this bait switch, but instead cheer leading for Trump and validating his attempts to blame immigrants and foreign trade for the problems faced by American workers.
https://www.politicususa.com/2017/02/27/opinion-fake-liberal-ed-schultz-pimps-trump-cpac.html
It is simply disgusting to listen to some journalists and news organizations report and comment on the Russians favorite American fascist, the one in the White House, as if he, his agenda, or administration are normal and not an existential threat to the people and the country. Being fair and balanced is one thing; portraying the Trump as anything other than a terrifying aberration is abominable. However, there is one news personality that has gone out of his way to praise the Trump and there is a good reason; he is being paid by Russia.
Once upon a time, Ed Schultz faked out no small number of progressives and liberals as a self-styled prairie populist, but for the second time in six years, he revealed his true conservative bona fides. He also exposed his true national allegiance when he signed on to get paid by Vladimir Putin to anchor a nightly show on Russia state-run network (RT) in America.
One always assumed Schultz was no progressive and no kind of liberal, in large part due to his exhortation to Democrats to sit out the 2010 midterm elections to teach President Obama a lesson about not fulfilling promises he clearly never made. No matter, Schultz had a hand in giving the teabaggers control of the House of Representatives they have never feared losing. Now Schultz is pimping for Donald Trump as a heroic figure fighting for the little people, and it is either because he was always a dyed-in-the-wool conservative or because he is employed by Russian president Vladimir Putin; it is probably a combination of the two.
Although he used to deride Trumps Russian cohort Vlad as Putie, he has changed his tone; even a two-faced cretin like Ed Schultz recognizes its not a good idea to criticize his employer. As the Washington Post noted in December, since he has become a paid hack for Russia, and Americas voice as surrogate for Russian president Vlad Putin, Schultz, who once said on MSNBC that Putin is crippling his country and has a nasty human rights record, now has a Russo-friendly, or perhaps American-skeptical, viewpoint on any number of issues.
Tavarious Jackson
(1,595 posts)who scapegoat immigration and trade.
TomCADem
(17,387 posts)...to even though most whites could not afford to own slaves. Even though slaves could undercut their labor, they aspired to own slaves and they saw themselves as superior to African Americans.
https://www.history.com/news/5-myths-about-slavery
Many of those white families who couldnt afford slaves aspired to, as a symbol of wealth and prosperity. In addition, the essential ideology of white supremacy that served as a rationale for slavery, made it extremely difficultand terrifyingfor white Southerners to imagine life alongside a black majority population that was not in bondage. In this way, many non-slave-owning Confederates went to war to protect not only slavery, but to preserve the foundation of the only way of life they knew.
In the 1960s, poor white southerners continued to be motivated and manipulated by racism as noted by White Southerner President Lyndon Johnson.
Today, Trump and many Republicans are happily picking the pocket of American workers by scapegoating immigrants and foreign trade. Sadly, some progressives like Ed Schultz were happy to play along.
VOX
(22,976 posts)All able bodied white men between the ages of 18 and 35 were liable to serve until the cessation of hostilities. Ironically, the so-called states rights breakaway government enacted the first American draft.
Youre correct, though. Many poorer Southerners were lectured repeatedly to fight northern aggressors, and that to do so was to save your white skin.
But after years of horrific warfare, these same poor non-slaveholding men began to desert, most for the reason that their homes and families were more important than fighting foolishly for some cause over an issue that didnt directly involve them or their livelihood. For example, nearly 1/4 of all North Carolina troops deserted.
Anyone who doesnt regard slavery as the central issue over which the Civil War was fought, clearly needs to study history in much more detail. And ultimately, as is true with just about every major conflict in history: rich mans war, poor mans fight.
radius777
(3,635 posts)from the left or right... it's all about shutting non-whites out of the global economy.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)is too intrinsically involved to ignore.
Global economy? No for most populist movements. You do need a central authority to blame. Populist passions have arisen for thousands of years. The mini ice age, high taxes and results of the Black plague causing ongoing problems? Blame it all on "the establishment" and grab a torch.
BUT, so many populists are social conservatives that their hostilities to "others" inevitably dominate these movements. As for those who aren't, they become willing collaborators in bigotry when they let their better selves be overcome by the lure of negative populist passions.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,431 posts)immigrant labor as competitive with union jobs, and would therefore hurt the US worker. But its the weaknesses of the union movement thats the problem, not the competition. The better solution than being anti-immigrant would be to unionize the immigrant labor force.
TomCADem
(17,387 posts)...Ethnic groups against each other and they were effective in getting Mexicans to despise Asian immigrants and Asian immigrants to despise Mexican immigrants to the benefit of the growers.
This worked until Asian and Mexican immigrant farm workers realized that they had common cause with each other and together formed the United Farm Workers.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)in Democratic primary who was similarly opposed, really angered me. Then he went all GOPer. I think he supported whoever offered a paycheck, and he thought hed get a big one from said Independent.
I believed in Big Ed when he was opposed to george war bush, but . . . . . .
TomCADem
(17,387 posts)...people have given Ed a pass because his attacks on immigrants and trade and support for Trump and Russia were motivated by his support of workers. However, regardless of the sincerity of his belief, he was wrong to scapegoat and wrong to support Trump.
dalton99a
(81,472 posts)Linda Ed
(493 posts)He died today at 64 supposedly of natural causes. Guess he won't be blowing trumps horn anymore.
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Squinch
(50,949 posts)JHan
(10,173 posts)I won't share it here, but uhm.. it's insightful.
mahina
(17,649 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)To Ed and the GOP.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)dembotoz
(16,802 posts)He got fucked over by MSNBC and had few options.
Blame his transformation more on lack of left media than personal shortcomings
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)So are duty and decency.
Why not re-read your thoughts and ask just what wouldn't be excused by this permission to abandon all principles when the mood calls? Trumpsters would no doubt feel it covered extreme cruelty to thousands of children as MSNBC has been fucking Trump over really good, as you put it.
dembotoz
(16,802 posts)Gives him cred.
His work on free clinics give him cred
Folks babble but he acted
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)And only the "on" counts? Free pass to get away with the rest?
I'm not inclined to ascribe this flexible non-code to Wisconsin, though there are a lot of flexings going on up there. I hear your state colleges may no longer teach most liberal arts courses. Educating our populace is justified if "my" party feels like it and keeping us ignorant is also fine if "my" party feels like it?
We need firm principles. Solutions must flex to meet needs and based what is possible, but not principles.
No surprise, btw, that Schultz turned out to be dishonest and dishonorable. Some people just believe whatever they want to and what they want can change with their situation.
dembotoz
(16,802 posts)funny u bring up higher education....
i attended a school currently being shackled.
i wore an anti walker tshirt to a dem breakfast a couple weeks back
I was attacked by these supposed dems for wearing my t-shirt. can not offend a republican you know
i told them to fuck off and walked out.
Ed offended republicans in wisconsin.....
actions do count.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)by personal experience is that too often we have to interpret the lesson for ourselves. When we cannot do a wise job of that,...
But +1000 for actions do count. Which is why I despised Schultz and don't feel he is, politically, a loss to the world. We're in over our chins in dishonesty and dishonor and need to regroup on higher ground.
dembotoz
(16,802 posts)TomCADem
(17,387 posts)Under that standard, Sean Hannity and Rush are just fine selling hate to get paid.
Blaming MSNBC for Ed going pro-Trump is like Roseanne Barr blaming her drugs side effects for making her a racist.
dembotoz
(16,802 posts)i give him that