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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 03:50 PM Jul 2018

Trump is set to separate more than 200,000 U.S.-born children from their parents

By Mark L. Schneider
July 6 at 12:08 PM

Mark L. Schneider is a senior adviser at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, former director of the U.S. Peace Corps, and former head of Latin America and the Caribbean at USAID.

If you think the last few weeks of separating 2,300 children from their migrant parents along the southern border were heart-wrenching, imagine if 273,000 American-born children are separated from parents whose temporary protected status (TPS) is terminated. That is what could happen if the Trump administration’s decision to revoke TPS for Haitians, Salvadorans and Hondurans is allowed to take effect.

Despite President Trump’s executive order reversing his policy of separating migrant families, most of those 2,300 children have not been returned to their parents. That is truly unconscionable.

More than 100 times that number of children — all U.S. citizens — will be placed in similar jeopardy if the Department of Homeland Security begins programs to deport more than 58,000 Haitians on July 22, 2019, more than 262,000 Salvadorans on Sept. 9, 2019, and 86,000 Hondurans on Jan. 5, 2020. Parents will be faced with the decision of whether to take their children — most of whom speak mainly English and know only life in this country — back to countries deemed by the State Department as not safe for travel, some with the highest homicide rates in the hemisphere.

Otherwise, parents will have to leave their children alone in the United States or, if they’re lucky, with relatives, or foster parents who they may or may not know, or some with “adult sponsors” chosen by federal agencies. The only other choice available to those parents would be to hide in the shadows as undocumented aliens. And that is what the ambassadors to the United States from El Salvador and Honduras, during an event at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), predicted that most families would attempt. And DHS would undoubtedly begin a massive hunt for them.

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Trump is set to separate more than 200,000 U.S.-born children from their parents (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2018 OP
K&R Solly Mack Jul 2018 #1
It is time for people of good conscience to defy his orders. Ilsa Jul 2018 #2
Good conscience is the key descriptor - Trump's minions don't possess that quality. iluvtennis Jul 2018 #5
Seems that should have happened in February of 2017. joshdawg Jul 2018 #24
Surely it can be blocked, because when GOVMT terminates TPS, that does NOT make them all criminals. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #3
Except that this regime Bettie Jul 2018 #7
Kick democrank Jul 2018 #4
The numbers listed in the text of the article actually add up to more than 400,000 geardaddy Jul 2018 #6
Over 400K adults and 200K children of those adults is reason for disparity (nt) mr_lebowski Jul 2018 #28
Ah, ok, thanks! geardaddy Jul 2018 #46
I have been posting about this dozens of times grantcart Jul 2018 #8
Your number is way way way too low. awesomerwb1 Jul 2018 #11
typo, should have read 200,000, thanks grantcart Jul 2018 #29
Part of this, I think, is to get rid of possible Democratic votes.... C Moon Jul 2018 #9
I am absolutely certain that this is partly about suppression of the Democratic vote. Still In Wisconsin Jul 2018 #12
+1 appalachiablue Jul 2018 #21
These TPS people awesomerwb1 Jul 2018 #10
How much money videohead5 Jul 2018 #13
Ohh, but think of all the jobs PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2018 #25
God! Can no one stop this Monster?! sweetroxie Jul 2018 #14
Not no one bdamomma Jul 2018 #18
This makes me sick, literally. northoftheborder Jul 2018 #15
that bdamomma Jul 2018 #16
Bastards PaulX2 Jul 2018 #17
Are we really building camps and rounding up people??? Luz Jul 2018 #19
Write postcards, get on Twitter and retweet good articles and counter the lies awesomerwb1 Jul 2018 #26
This is where I draw the line. Initech Jul 2018 #20
He is a cancer on this nation that needs to be removed. smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #22
+1. He is a cancer on humanity. dalton99a Jul 2018 #38
Trump is determined to make America a more brutal, inhumane and dangerous country. stuffmatters Jul 2018 #23
Not only that. He's determined to play to the Republican base... JHB Jul 2018 #43
This is how you kill a democracy; it's been the Repub uber lords (Kochs) agenda all along. stuffmatters Jul 2018 #45
Funny how the "pro-life" party and it's fascist leader workinclasszero Jul 2018 #27
Ethnic cleansing. That's what this is all about. scarletwoman Jul 2018 #30
That is exactly what it is. SunSeeker Jul 2018 #32
Agree workinclasszero Jul 2018 #44
But wait, if he deports all Hondurans, Haitians and Salvadorans than what group is next? yuiyoshida Jul 2018 #31
But this is what's so weird. America was never all white. SunSeeker Jul 2018 #33
They really want it white only... yuiyoshida Jul 2018 #37
K&R suffragette Jul 2018 #34
K&R... N_E_1 for Tennis Jul 2018 #35
Only Hitler topped this evil fuck sellitman Jul 2018 #36
And not a beep from Republicans in Congress dalton99a Jul 2018 #39
Congress MUST fix this KentuckyWoman Jul 2018 #40
This is child snatching! McCamy Taylor Jul 2018 #41
Here's an idea superpatriotman Jul 2018 #42

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
2. It is time for people of good conscience to defy his orders.
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 03:58 PM
Jul 2018

Supervisors, leaders, ministers, people need to get involved in stopping this.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
3. Surely it can be blocked, because when GOVMT terminates TPS, that does NOT make them all criminals.
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 04:20 PM
Jul 2018

I would think it surely can be blocked, because when government terminates TPS, that does not make them all criminals instantly. The "criminal" or "suspect criminal" status is what has been used to separate children from parents ...

... during the Trump Child Abductions of 2017-18.

Bettie

(16,089 posts)
7. Except that this regime
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 04:43 PM
Jul 2018

doesn't care what the law says.

They'll just round people up and send them out of the country without any sort of due process.

And he recently said that he wasn't sure if children born here are actually citizens...so he'll sign some idiotic executive order stating that they aren't and deport everyone while it winds its way to the SCOTUS where Gorsuck and friends will rule that only white, Russian anchor babies are legitimate citizens.

What scares me is that while this is meant as hyperbole...it could really go that way, pretty easily.

geardaddy

(24,926 posts)
6. The numbers listed in the text of the article actually add up to more than 400,000
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 04:39 PM
Jul 2018

The headline should be more accurate.

What a disgusting piece of rotting garbage the BLOTUS is.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
8. I have been posting about this dozens of times
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 04:56 PM
Jul 2018

The best sourced data I have found so far is 20,000 US born kids. It is still criminal.

awesomerwb1

(4,267 posts)
11. Your number is way way way too low.
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 05:04 PM
Jul 2018

TPS applicants were higher than those listed at one point. Over time some have obtained green cards through family etc.

The number is very close to 200,000 US born kids or more.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
29. typo, should have read 200,000, thanks
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 07:52 PM
Jul 2018

The attached link has the first country by country estimates and dwarfs the 2500 which has generated so much deserved attention.

C Moon

(12,212 posts)
9. Part of this, I think, is to get rid of possible Democratic votes....
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 04:59 PM
Jul 2018

by scaring legal citizens away from the booths in November.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
12. I am absolutely certain that this is partly about suppression of the Democratic vote.
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 05:20 PM
Jul 2018

It's also about purging the country of young non-white people in order to prevent further growth of what many see as the Democratic base.

awesomerwb1

(4,267 posts)
10. These TPS people
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 05:00 PM
Jul 2018

have been in the US working legally, opening businesses and paying taxes for 20 years or more as is the case with Honduras(2020). 18 years for El Salvador(2019) and other countries maybe a little bit less.

Every 18 months they go through an FBI fingerprint biometrics background check and pay $400-$500 for processing.

So when their last TPS expires , they'll revert back to being undocumented. No more driver's licenses, no more work permits. So DHS and all agencies have their addresses etc. Easy pickings for ICE. Devastating for them and their families.



videohead5

(2,171 posts)
13. How much money
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 05:26 PM
Jul 2018

Is it going to cost for the federal government to take care of all of those kids?..this is really stupid.

bdamomma

(63,836 posts)
18. Not no one
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 05:55 PM
Jul 2018

a lot of somebodies, a question would you sacrifice your life for your country in your own country?? WE have a sick POS who stole the Presidency through an evil adversary Putin who now he says he's FINE??? Is everyone ready to speak Russian??? Those who do you can translate.

Yes I am angry, fuck. sweetroxie, I am not invoking you in my comment.

northoftheborder

(7,572 posts)
15. This makes me sick, literally.
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 05:38 PM
Jul 2018

Who or what can stop this raving maniac before he utterly destroys our country.

bdamomma

(63,836 posts)
16. that
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 05:47 PM
Jul 2018

number of children are 3,000 now number of children who have committed no crimes on the subject of asylum , children have been moved to baby jails away from their parents. We have a very sick problem and his name is DONALD TRUMP!!! Don't let this POS set the narrative.

Luz

(772 posts)
19. Are we really building camps and rounding up people???
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 06:03 PM
Jul 2018

While I sit here in my air conditioned room waiting to vote in November? I feel completely helpless, I don't know what I can do.

awesomerwb1

(4,267 posts)
26. Write postcards, get on Twitter and retweet good articles and counter the lies
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 06:24 PM
Jul 2018

Call your representatives. Vote early and organize so you can bring friends to vote as well.

Get mad and get active.

Initech

(100,062 posts)
20. This is where I draw the line.
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 06:04 PM
Jul 2018

Now we are getting into acts of war and crimes against humanity. Fuck this piece of shit administration.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
22. He is a cancer on this nation that needs to be removed.
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 06:11 PM
Jul 2018

It can't happen soon enough. It just gets worse and worse. I honestly don't think a scenario like Nazi Germany is all that far away.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
43. Not only that. He's determined to play to the Republican base...
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 03:10 PM
Jul 2018

...which is just as determined to make America a more brutal, in humane, and dangerous country.

All of them. Not just the ones who drive the direction, but the ones who ar3 OK with going along with it.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
45. This is how you kill a democracy; it's been the Repub uber lords (Kochs) agenda all along.
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 05:25 PM
Jul 2018

Their decades long propaganda machine has brainwashed enough of the "rabble" and they have now seized total control of all three branches of our govt. Trump, the perfect puppet to unite all the major Repug parts (from their fellow US oligarchs, the for profit "Christian"machine to Putin) and the kick their war on democracy into full throttle.


 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
27. Funny how the "pro-life" party and it's fascist leader
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 06:50 PM
Jul 2018

love to terrorize little brown skinned children and their parents.

They absolutely LOVE IT! This is a crime against humanity!

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
30. Ethnic cleansing. That's what this is all about.
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 08:51 PM
Jul 2018

The trump regime is determined to reduce the non-white population of the U.S. by any means necessary.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
44. Agree
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 03:39 PM
Jul 2018

Trump needs to stand in shackles before the world court to answer for his crimes against children someday soon hopefully.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
31. But wait, if he deports all Hondurans, Haitians and Salvadorans than what group is next?
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 08:55 PM
Jul 2018

Is he going to try to send Asians "back to china" or Blacks "back to Africa"...is HE really trying ot "Make America White again"??

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
33. But this is what's so weird. America was never all white.
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 02:28 AM
Jul 2018

They want to go back to a time that never was.

American was originally populated by Native Americans. Northern Europeans colonized the east coast, but Spain colonized the west. African slaves and Chinese workers were bought in to build this country and work its fields.

I guess what they really want is to go back to a time when people of color were seen but not heard.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
37. They really want it white only...
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 01:10 PM
Jul 2018

and everyone else to be deported except that many of us were born here. My family of Hawaiians go back centuries. And Hawaii was ours to begin with, you know they won't let that state go back to being what it was.

also stupid people think Hawaii was like Puerto Rico, is another country, not a US territory but of course it really is a part of America.

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,715 posts)
35. K&R...
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 07:26 AM
Jul 2018

These atrocities need to be at the top of every news cycle. Spread these stories around as much as possible. Keep the outrage going till and past November.

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
40. Congress MUST fix this
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 01:20 PM
Jul 2018

They make the federal laws.

They confirm the SCOTUS so we have judges that will provide a true check and balance against a president who goes off the ranch.

Impeachment is also a tool congress can use to enforce human rights in this country.

I am on a bitchfest... yes I said it... BITCHFEST. Every federal elected official is going to get an earful whether they want to hear it or not until this changes.

Period.

Edit to add.... dear Republicans......... family values my ass. Shut the fuck up.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
41. This is child snatching!
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 02:15 PM
Jul 2018

Last edited Sat Jul 7, 2018, 02:47 PM - Edit history (1)

See my thread. I did the math. Up to $100 billion for people like Betsy De Vos. This is being done for the money. The for profit adoption industry will have a field day. So will child sex traffickers.

Trump has no shame.

superpatriotman

(6,247 posts)
42. Here's an idea
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 02:54 PM
Jul 2018

CRS data provded by USCIS

Wyoming - 73
North Dakota - 115
Alaska - 120
Idaho - 225
Maine - 207
Montana - 35
South Dakota - 272

That's a lot of land mass that is empty. See where I'm going with this?

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