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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf they didn't keep track of the kids, and made no plans to give them back,
what were they going to do with them?
I've heard no speculation about it. That's a question that demands an answer.
Raven123
(4,792 posts)elleng
(130,761 posts)some of them may have had some ideas, no one had rational thoughts.
JI7
(89,241 posts)DURHAM D
(32,606 posts)safeinOhio
(32,641 posts)inpublicsafety.com Emerging Issues in Law Enforcement
Russian Mafia and Human Trafficking Human trafficking mainly for the purpose of prostitution has also become the preferred crime for the Russian mafia due to the high profit margin. The majority of women who fall victim to trafficking are from poor economic countries such as the Ukraine and Romania who do not offer many job
Solly Mack
(90,758 posts)by tyrants.
None of it good.
uponit7771
(90,304 posts)... the children of people asking for help doesn't surpass just that.
Turbineguy
(37,295 posts)Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
They want to be Nazis. But they really aren't up to the task. They are too incompetent.
brush
(53,743 posts)And these fu_king idiots are running everythingand the head one is about to go one-on-one with Putin with no witnesses.
The country will never be the samehas never been the same since the stolen election.
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)Even the Nazis were incompetent at the beginning. It took them a few years to learn how to destroy a nation.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Christians. Sad.
procon
(15,805 posts)some privately run baby jail business. If they get a Federal contract for warehousing all those lost kids until they turn 18 and can be deported, that adds up to millions, or billions. The order would come from someone at the cabinet level and impact all the agencies tasked with separating immigrant families.
That would explain why multiple agencies were in such a rush to separate the children and deport their parents. What are the odds that all those agencies turned a blind eye to the problem and all the employees made no effort to identify, track or follow any existing plans for reuniting families.
fierywoman
(7,672 posts)EricJohnson
(90 posts)don't care if the children get reunited.
mopinko
(70,023 posts)Amaryllis
(9,524 posts)Immigration lawyer: "They have been planning this for over a year. Chaos is the goal."
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210783286
THis statement from Jonathan Ryan, executive director of Raices, an organisation providing legal services to immigrants along the Texas border, is noteworthy:
They have been planning this for over a year. Yet, from what weve seen, there appears to be no real plan to reunite children and their parents. Chaos is the goal. So what is the purpose behind creating chaos? Other than that is plays right into Putin's agenda. What else are they up to?
US immigration
'All I hear is my daughter, crying': a Salvadoran father's plight after separation at border. Guardian US
Arnovis Guidos Portillo was deported from US but his six-year-old daughter remains in custody.
Papa, when are you getting me out of here? asks the small voice on the telephone.
Arnovis Guidos Portillo holds his mobile phone away from his face as he struggles to hold back tears, but his six-year old daughter, Meybelin, can still be heard on speakerphone, asking when she will be released from custody in an American detention centre.
Though he knows its a lie, he tells her that she cant return to El Salvador because the US governments plane is broken; the truth is that he has no idea what will become of her.
Theyre going to bring you home soon, he says. They havent fixed the plane.
Portillo, 26, was separated from Meybelin in McAllen, Texas, on 27 May over three weeks after the attorney general, Jeff Sessions, announced the Trump administrations zero-tolerance policy, mandating children of undocumented migrants would be removed from their parents. Since then, 2,575 have been separated from their parents.
He has spoken to her three times since he was deported to El Salvador on Thursday, but he has no answers to her questions.
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On Saturday, he finally got an answer, when an American lawyer, Jonathan Ryan, called to tell him that Maybelin was being held in a shelter in Phoenix, Arizona, run by the Texas-based non-profit Southwest Key Programs.
Ryan is the executive director of Raices, an organisation providing legal services to immigrants along the Texas border, and he told Portillo they had taken up Maybelins case.
According to Ryan, US officials have become more willing to refuse migrants their right to apply for asylum. The Trump administration has devolved much of the authority in these individual cases to officers who are handling them. Its all totally uncoordinated people on the ground are making it up as they go along, he said.
They have been planning this for over a year. Yet, from what weve seen, there appears to be no real plan to reunite children and their parents. Chaos is the goal.
With little government help, advocates and attorneys have stepped in to fill the void. Raices has received more than $17m since the administration started separating children from their parents, and a host of other legal aid organisations have taken on some of the more than 2,300 cases.
MOre:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/24/all-i-hear-is-my-daughter-crying-salvadoran-father-yearns-to-see-his-child-again?utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GU+Today+USA+-+Collections+2017&utm_term=279053&subid=20993289&CMP=GT_US_collection
moondust
(19,962 posts)I've wondered if the demand for more children among right wingers wanting big families may be part of the motive behind the anti-abortion movement. "Hey, if you don't want the kids you can just put them up for adoption!" I don't know how much demand there is [or how much Drumpf would charge for his "merchandise."]
Fascists in Spain in the 1930s abducted children and gave them to Franco's supporters: "Much of the time, these kidnappings were done to benefit couples who had adopted the Francoist regime and wished to have children."
Lost children of Francoism