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populistdriven

(5,644 posts)
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 11:32 PM Jul 2018

Family Farmers and & Rural Small Businesses (FFSB's) Have Their Game Faces on But,

Last edited Sat Jul 7, 2018, 12:27 AM - Edit history (1)

FFSB's Need to Be Terrified, Here's Why Trump's Trade War is Targeted AT Them Not For Them:

• No matter how trade war ends, Trump wins & will declare victory even if FFSB's lose
• If trade war ends badly Trump will blame it on the usual
• Trump is doing nothing additional to help FFSB's
• China & World won't hesitate to help their FFSB's
• China & World will have plenty of cash after trade war ends
• FFSB's won't have much left in cash after trade war ends
• Tax cuts are primarily helping the <1% not FFSB's
• Tax cuts are driving up interest rates and hurting FFSB's that borrow to survive the war
• Trump's billionaire US friends are flush with cash from tax cuts
• Trump's billionaire overseas friends always want to hide their assets in the US
• Trump's billionaire friends can't wait to buy up US assets cheap from failing FFSB's
• Trump's billionaire friends can't wait to grab up market share from failing FFSB's
• Trump has bragged loudly about how he loves crashes, (remember?) so he can buy cheap
• Trump isn't blowing a dog whistle for the <1%, he's blowing a fog horn
• The more red meat he tosses on the picnic table in the front yard the hotter the fire is burning down the barns and shops
• FFSB's be Terrified, blaming Democrats & impeachment proceedings for your losses won't save you when it's too late

edit - forgot to add this from Joy Reid covering Rachel Maddow this evening:

Tariffs that kick in Friday will be a body blow to heartland states that helped put Trump in office, testing their faith in the president's brand of negotiation.

COMSTOCK PARK, Mich. — They voted overwhelmingly for President Donald Trump, but generations of red-state farmers are bracing for impact on Friday with the knowledge that his trade war could destroy their livelihood — and alter the agricultural map forever.

Tariffs levied by America's trading partners, such as China, kick in on Friday as retaliation for Trump's heavy taxation of their imports. Farmers in the heartland say that a drawn-out trade war could lead to more farms going bankrupt or selling out.

"The banks are not going to keep writing checks to save your farm," Matt Thiede, chief operating officer of Heeren brothers, a produce packing company in Comstock Park, Michigan, told NBC News. "For some family farms, one season could be the death of them."

"You will see a serious change in the landscape and topography of agriculture in the U.S.," he warned.

Betting the farm: Why the heartland still believes in Trump despite plunging prices
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/betting-farm-why-heartland-still-believes-trump-despite-plunging-prices-n886941?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma

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Family Farmers and & Rural Small Businesses (FFSB's) Have Their Game Faces on But, (Original Post) populistdriven Jul 2018 OP
FFSB - Is that the US Farm Community's version of the FSB (Russian Federal Security Service)? TheBlackAdder Jul 2018 #1
no that's the USFC's FSB or the FFRSB populistdriven Jul 2018 #2
Looks like a LOT of cheating. imo. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #3
Why DOES the heartland still love Trump even though he's bad for, well, everything? Beartracks Jul 2018 #4
The Heartland dislikes Federal regulation Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2018 #5
Racism.Sexism. Ignorantly believing that others are taking from you. Squinch Jul 2018 #6
Especially the last item. . .if they're not WASP like them. DinahMoeHum Jul 2018 #7
And he's a white male. workinclasszero Jul 2018 #8
republican Comrade Dirty Donny* is pissing on America's FFSBs Achilleaze Jul 2018 #9

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
3. Looks like a LOT of cheating. imo.
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 12:38 AM
Jul 2018

The country isn't that GD red. Sorry. And the Coast to Coast red after the last Congressional Election was complete horseshit too. And we just accepted it and blamed ourselves. Lot's of computer counting screwing up America when I see maps like this. rural Areas are the easiest to target w software "updates' before and after the election. The Russians have hot boxed our computer software. They don't HAVE to be connected to the internet to be compromised.

Beartracks

(12,787 posts)
4. Why DOES the heartland still love Trump even though he's bad for, well, everything?
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 12:45 AM
Jul 2018

Because he's not a librul and he's not that Hillary.

That's it.

They don't give a shit about any of Trump's liabilities. Obviously.

They just vote Team Republican, period. They'd vote for the (R) candidate even if the GOP ran a traitor-weasel. Which they did.

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Algernon Moncrieff

(5,781 posts)
5. The Heartland dislikes Federal regulation
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 01:36 AM
Jul 2018

The Farm Bureau loathed the Waters of the United States rule.

They generally dislike the EPA

They feel the Feds own too much Western land

They want the Feds to give them a free hand in predator management.

Much of the Heartland population is deeply opposed to abortion

...and they love to hunt and love their guns.

Having said that, they are getting screwed by this administration: renewable fuel (ethanol) is being pushed aside; Cuba policy is preventing opening new markets; immigration policy is driving up labor costs; the China trade policy is a trainwreck for soy and hog farmers.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
9. republican Comrade Dirty Donny* is pissing on America's FFSBs
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 08:19 AM
Jul 2018

Why in Hell would a heartland farmer allow himself to be conned by a New York city slicker with a background in casinos and cheezey condos? I mean, this is a classic sucker set up. And republicans excel at it.

* aka republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief

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