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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOhio DUers: Is the Jordan story big in Ohio?
I found this interesting from a Harry Enten tweet tonight.
Link to tweet
Link to tweet
Will the Big State U culture bury this story?
samplegirl
(11,415 posts)Ohiogal
(31,658 posts)RandySF
(57,632 posts)Backwoodsrider
(764 posts)Not been on campus just watching the news like everyone else.
Only chance Jordan had to avoid this issue was of the accusations were held to only 1 victim reporting and Jordan did credible interview on the news.
Result: There is at least 5 wrestlers reporting plus champ Coleman taking the victims side. Jordan looked evasive and shifty on Fox interview did not hear anyone say he was believable. GOP is having trouble with women now so this Jordan has to go to avoid losing the rest of the Trump women voters. Lets see what they say on Sunday news shows but I expect Jordan to be gone next week.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)...that might work when you have a 60+ jerkoff bragging in a trailer about grabbing women's privates (that's what Trump called it-- "Just locker room talk"--
But these aren't guys bragging. They are young men telling a coach that the team doctor was using treatment as an excuse to molest them sexually. This would never be dismissed as "just bragging"-- they'd hardly "Brag" about being abused.
The good thing is, this turd is going to keep going on TV and trying to justify himself. He has already pretty much admitted that indeed, he WAS told that this was going on. He's trying to say he thought it was "just locker room talk," but I think everyone who has ever been in a locker room knows people don't make this sort of thing up and "brag" about it.
Demsrule86
(68,348 posts)this pervert, there were others involved.
FakeNoose
(32,343 posts)... according to a news story I read yesterday.
If it's true then that takes it out of the "possible consent" arena because young men under 18 years cannot give consent. I don't know if any of these young men have come forward yet. If they have, it would surely ratchet up the Ohio media. It shouldn't be partisan politics in play here, this is wrong no matter who did it.
Just sayin'
Demsrule86
(68,348 posts)matter what the good (sarcasm) congressman is doomed.
LisaL
(44,962 posts)Although apparently that only applies to heterosexual encounters.
greyl
(22,990 posts)Check out the thread topics at https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state/Board/Ohio-State-Off-Topic-Message-Board-Forum-100929/, the site Pradheep bases his entire point upon. If that site has mods, looks like they'd delete anti-Trump posts before pro-.
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I think you're kind of shooting the messenger. I don't get the feeling he's celebrating it's not getting traction.
Demsrule86
(68,348 posts)RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)And I could see people trying to ignore this at Ohio State just like the shit at Penn State and the country just being horrified. I saw one woman on Twitter last night say they are all liars because our boys are great wrestlers whod fight off all advances.
Demsrule86
(68,348 posts)should have been clear.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)clear Jordan chose SILENCE over protecting HIS wrestlers. The "locker room" talk will destroy him...as more wrestlers step forward
Demsrule86
(68,348 posts)Jordan will be called to testify...interesting what will be found under oath. The Ohio state is beloved and important to Ohioans.
Kotya
(235 posts)Republican voters can quickly dismiss the charges against Jim Jordan as nothing more than a partisan witch hunt.
FakeNoose
(32,343 posts)Then it's up to the Dems to do everything, just like always. Is this starting to sound familiar?
Come on Republicans, wake up and do your job.
Demsrule86
(68,348 posts)has brought discredit on Ohio state, they will turn on him.
UTUSN
(70,496 posts)irisblue
(32,828 posts)Darrel Rowland is the lead political reporter at the Columbus Dispatch.
This mornings tweet
Darrel Rowland (@darreldrowland) Tweeted:
NEW: Ex-Ohio State sports doctor's family says they're aiding sex abuse investigation, along with the "alleged victims" https://t.co/T6GYC3hfqV
Link to tweet
4 paragraph article.
The family of the late doctor at the center of a sexual misconduct investigation at Ohio State University is speaking out publicly for the first time, saying they learned of the allegations involving Dr. Richard Strauss through news reports.
A statement Saturday morning from Scott Strauss, whom court records identify as the son of the former Ohio State doctor, said his family was shocked and saddened to hear the allegations of misconduct against the late Dr. Richard H. Strauss.″
Ohio State first announced in April that it was looking into allegations of sexual misconduct involving Richard Strauss, stemming form initial reports of abuse during Strauss time as a physician with the mens wrestling team in the 1980s. Since then, independent investigators working with the university have interviewed more than 150 former students or witnesses, and former student-athletes from at least 14 mens sports teams have reported allegations of sexual misconduct.
Scott Strauss statement marks the first time family members of Richard Strauss, who killed himself in 2005, have spoken publicly about the investigation.
syringis
(5,101 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)This story is NOT going away.
Politico: A cesspool of deviancy: New claims of voyeurism test Jordan denials
A half-dozen ex-wrestlers told POLITICO they were regularly harassed in their training facility by sexually aggressive men who attended the university or worked there. The voyeurs would masturbate while watching the wrestlers shower or sit in the sauna, or engage in sexual acts in the areas where the athletes trained, the former wrestlers said.
Larkins Hall, the building that housed athletic teams, became such a well-known target that people who frequented it at the time have reminisced in anonymous postings online how easy it was to ogle naked members of the wrestling team.
The situation was so egregious that former wrestling head coach Russ Hellickson would at times have to physically drag the gawkers out of the building, several sources familiar with his actions at the time said. Hellickson also pleaded with the university multiple times to move their athletes to a private facility, the sources said. Jordan served as Hellicksons No. 2, and the coach has been described as Jordans mentor. ...
Coaching my athletes in Larkins Hall was one of the most difficult things I ever did, said a former wrestling coach who worked with Jordan but asked not to be named. It was a cesspool of deviancy. And thats a whole nother story that no one has addressed.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/06/jim-jordan-harassment-ohio-state-wrestling-699192
FakeNoose
(32,343 posts)I hope they can get the former head coach Hellickson on the record. Makes me wonder if OSU administration officials were deliberately looking away. If so this story is wandering into Jerry Sandusky territory.
Look out, Buckeye fans! This is getting very messy.
Stuart G
(38,359 posts)Ohiogal
(31,658 posts)FOUR screens of "News Headlines" on the Youngstown Vindicator's website on my tablet and saw not one mention of the Jordan scandal. (this was on my tablet) ... I can't believe it.
I'm sure it's being given a lot more space in the Columbus Dispatch. It's not going away, anyway.
A lot of the Trumper Troglodytes around here are also big OSU fans, and I'd love to hear what Jim Tressel has to say. (he is the president of Youngstown State). Why hasn't any reporter interviewed him yet??