Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

catbyte

(34,332 posts)
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 01:22 PM Jul 2018

Tony Schwartz, Trump's ghost writer, nails it.



Statement from North Korea today slamming U.S. makes clear that Trump got totally snookered and duped by Kim Jung Un. Trump gave a mass murderer worldwide legitimacy in return for nothing. North Koreans realized the easiest person to con is a narcissist. It only takes flattery.

10:35 AM - Jul 7, 2018
16 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies

Hamlette

(15,408 posts)
2. problem is, his base will not be paying attention to this
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 02:25 PM
Jul 2018

Trump owns all the news cycles. His MO is to gin up a problem (NK, rapists from Mexico) and then "fix it". It is exactly what he did with NK. It has been about the same for 70 years. He started calling him Rocket Man and threatening to nuke him blah blah until it was at the forefront of our attention for weeks. "Are we going to war with NK". Then, he comes in and "fixes" the non issue he created. "No, there will be no war. NK backed down. I kept you safe with my excellent negotiating skills".

But when people realize it was all a Potemkin Village he is locking up kids so the media moves on. And his base never knows they have been played by the carnival barker.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
3. We have to beat his base, not win it over.
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 02:36 PM
Jul 2018

If they believe every word he says even with the mountain of evidence to the contrary then we should simply be determined that they don’t get to decide our lives. Fuck them. We have to destroy their power and make them scurry back under a rock. Their lives are what they have chosen them to be. Trump was never going to reward them in the first place.

BigmanPigman

(51,565 posts)
10. They do just the opposite and dig their heels in deeper
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 04:19 PM
Jul 2018

and become more defiant in protecting their Dear Leader. They have egos almost as big as the moron's. Don't ever try to get them to admit they are wrong and were made fools of.

renate

(13,776 posts)
11. "Their lives are what they have chosen them to be."
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 04:24 PM
Jul 2018

Everything good for them that comes from the government has come from Democrats, with no acknowledgement whatsoever. Yet they keep voting Republican, because they prefer anger and racism and victimhood to improving their lives.

They've had multiple chances. It's time to forget about persuading them. They are literally brainwashed--which is sad for them, but it's not as though there aren't news outlets other than Fox freely available. If it didn't mean consigning their non-bigoted neighbors to the dustbin, I wouldn't care at all what happens to them now. They have chosen the bed they wish to lie in.

Cosmocat

(14,558 posts)
12. CORRECT, he wasnt "played"
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 11:24 AM
Jul 2018

It was a photo op for him to use on the zombie base, that was his motive all along.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
15. His base has been brainwashed by forty years of extreme right wing extremism.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 11:34 AM
Jul 2018

Possibly in two or three generations their influence could be dampened. But don't count on it as evidenced by the residual racism of the entirety of the South and the infection of North by migrants carrying this disease of the soul. It is very difficult case and only terminates with the death of the infected.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
5. Putin realized the same thing way before N. Korea.
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 03:20 PM
Jul 2018

He played Trump like a fiddle and the narcissist ate it up. Idiot....

pazzyanne

(6,543 posts)
6. Anyone who has marginally followed tRump through the years knows exactly who and what he is!
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 03:28 PM
Jul 2018

You have to be blind or stupid not to know what he is. Okay, guess I answered my own question.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
14. republicans will be remembered for their #ShanhaiSurrender
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 11:30 AM
Jul 2018

where under the deceitful misleadership of their ignoble republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief, they surrendered oodles of US power and influence, in trade for a big, fat, stinking NK Nothing Burger.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Tony Schwartz, Trump's gh...