When you confront a MAGA troll on Warren's hertiage. Remind them that Trump and his family claimed

[itsrobert]

they were Swedish and not German. So until Trump, the Big Orange Swedish Meatball takes a DNA test for his "Swedish" heritage, the DNA test for Warren is moot.

[manor321]

1. Ignore

Actually I ignore the topic because I don't let conservatives set the agenda of what we talk about.

[onecaliberal]

2. Oh please, that bag of pus lies about everything. We don't care what he wants to see.

Release the fucking tax returns or shut up forever.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

4. No... release the fucking tax returns AND shut up forever.

[onecaliberal]

25. Word.

[marylandblue]

3. I did that once, it didn't work

Because it's okay to claim you are a different kind of white person, but claiming you are part Indian is bad because that's a whole different race.

Yes, this was really their answer.

[itsrobert]

5. They have an answer for everything

As dumb as it is.

[The Wielding Truth]

7. Then you can point out that they are definitely racist. They hate that, but here again is the proof.

[smirkymonkey]

6. Response: It's a non-issue.

Who cares? Let's see the tax returns. We should not be on the defensive, they should. Do not let them set the narrative!

[SemiHalfling]

8. Agreed

Do not feed the trolls, if you give them an inch they’ll take a mile. It’s an intentional waste of time and a distraction at best.

[smirkymonkey]

9. Welcome to DU SemiHalfling!

[SemiHalfling]

13. Thanks!

Nice to finally be among likeminded people, it’s been a bit frustrating to be stuck in a deep red state these days.

The other day I brought my aunt’s old vcr back to her after giving it a cleaning, she thanked me by showing me a six-minute propaganda clip from One America News showing how Muslims are taking over Birmingham (England) and turning it into a child-sex-grooming bomb-making Sharia-law-imposed no-go region. I will never get those six minutes back.

[smirkymonkey]

17. Stick around. This place was a life saver for me during the Bush years.

I needed to be around people who thought the mainstream was as insane as I did. It has really saved my sanity many times!

[SemiHalfling]

22. I will be, living through that was no fun as a kid.

This has resurfaced many memories of the gaslighting within my own family against anything that didn’t align with conservative talking points or their church. Now I just have to stay focused on my studies and find a way to contribute

[smirkymonkey]

29. I know exactly how you feel.

[calimary]

31. Welcome to DU, SemiHalfling!

There are many ways to deal with these jerks. And I'm sorry, but if they voted for trump, and AFTER all this recklessness and wreckage that's already been forced upon us in the last year-and-a-half, if they STILL support that jerk, then they too have to take their lumps.

Depends on what kind of confrontation, of course, but there's such a thing as NOT patronizing their businesses. No confrontation at all! Vote with your pocketbook.

[SemiHalfling]

33. Thanks, glad to be here!

And you’re right, there are many ways of dealing with them. My reaction may have been a little too generalized, sometimes I catch myself doing that when I’m tired or burned out. As a newcomer it’s on me to clarify, so I’ll tweak my original statement:

When I say ‘it’s a waste of time’, I mean that it’s one of their goals to waste *our* time by catching us unaware and unprepared. There are ways to turn the tables if you decide to debate them, but make sure to prepare at least as much as they have. Do not let them control the narrative. We’re facing a massively distributed and concerted propaganda effort intended to demoralize, weaken our resolve, and redirect us away from healthy and helpful ways of thinking. We can’t afford to let them!

[calimary]

34. Abso-freakin'-lutely!

[not fooled]

15. Yep

donnie's name-calling against Senator Warren now = birther nonsense formerly promulgated against another Democratic leader.

Ignore.

[lsewpershad]

10. Why should anyone

let the clown define who he/she is.

[GoCubsGo]

11. No. The proper response is:

Oh, my god! WHO. FUCKING. CARES???? I have more important things to worry about than petty shit like that.

[George II]

12. And don't forget that his grandfather was a criminal in Bavaria, so they deported his ass to the US.

[left-of-center2012]

14. I have German ancestors on my mother's side

They claimed they were Dutch, due the hatred and treatment of U.S. Germans
during the two World wars.

[0rganism]

16. how does this topic become relevant to any of the very real issues facing us today?

if you're arguing this garbage at all, you've taken the bait and you've already lost. sorry.

if this is somehow a discussion about quality of character, over a dozen women have accused Mr. Trump of sexual assault. try that one, and stick to it and ignore their weak-ass attempts to change the subject.

[gulliver]

18. Maher said Trump could be part orangutan too.

That should be checked.

[Fritz Walter]

24. Litigation pending

Now that the ante has been upped to include DNA test results (see above), I think Mr. Maher’s legal team has new ammunition. Key words in the video: “birth certificate and other things.”
Oh, the joy of discovery!


“Better to remain silent and thought a fool...”

[maxrandb]

19. I prefer to just punch them in the throat nt

[malaise]

20. Banished Germans to boot

[R B Garr]

21. Let's see Melania"s immigration papers already.

Wasn’t she in the country illegally, or she lied about her work.. Papers please.

[griloco]

23. Then there's The Trump University 6000 Swindle"

"
"New York’s attorney general, Eric Schneiderman, claimed vindication and victory for those “swindled” by the course.

“Donald Trump fought us every step of the way, filing baseless charges and fruitless appeals and refusing to settle for even modest amounts of compensation for the victims of his phony university,” Schneiderman said in a statement. “Today, that all changes. Today’s $25m settlement agreement is a stunning reversal by Donald Trump and a major victory for the over 6,000 victims of his fraudulent university.”"

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/18/donald-trump-university-settles-president-lawsuit-25-million

[greymattermom]

26. How about just reminding them that she's from Oklahoma,

which has the largest Native American population of any state.

[exboyfil]

27. We have a family story that we are descendants of Chief Corn Stalk

His daughter had a child with a white man whose wife raised it as my x great grandfather. There is even a genealogy which shows it on two different websites. My cousin got a DNA test - no native american ancestry showed up. So what is the truth. The stories are still there.

[itsrobert]

28. We had stories too

Records showing Grandparents living on an Oklahoma reservation in the early 1900's. My brother got a DNA test, no Native American ancestry showed up.

[pnwmom]

30. Although that cousin's DNA test doesn't mean none of the cousins would have Native American DNA.

Each child gets a different set of genes, even with full siblings.

My brother's test showed he had 8% Scandinavian ancestry, and I had none. And we have lots of other differences, for example, his whole Y chromosome.

But the test recognized us as full siblings, with an "extremely high" likelihood.

[CozyMystery]

32. The entire thing with Warren is B.S.

In my family, my grandmother was half Native American.

So imagine my surprise when I had no NA genes on my DNA test. I am 99.97% Irish and northern European, and .03% Jewish.

I called my cousin to report this development. Need I say that no one in the family believed me? And that I don't know much about genetics and neither do my relatives? The family decided that either the test was wrong, or that I am the daughter of the proverbial milkman.

I called my mom to ask about the milkman thing, thinking it was funny. She didn't take it that way until she realized that of course, I was joking.

The rest of my family still thinks we (the cousins) are 1/8 Native American. And why? Because it's been the story of our history for all of our lives and all of the lives of my aunts, uncles, and grandparents.

Heck, when I was starting college, my mother checked to see if I was NA enough to get some sort of grant or scholarship. I wasn't, so the subject was dropped.

Anyway, until a couple of years ago, I was thrilled that I was 1/8 Native American. As was the case with my relatives, I was proud of that. I liked it. It stirred my imagination. It made me interested in NA history and the current conditions of their lives.

I excited to go to a pow-wow, at which 98% of the people there were either Black or Caucasian, most claiming NA heritage. I expected to see a lot of identifiable Native Americans, and actually saw exactly two.

The rest of us were like Elizabeth Warren -- had the family history of our heritage, but no proof and ample belief that it was true. This occurred prior to DNA testing being available. And I'm still not sure that those places that do the testing, like 23andme, ferret out NA genes anyway.