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Has anyone see the DU wikipedia page? (Original Post) nini Jul 2018 OP
Those sections under criticism have been there a LONG Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2018 #1
I just had never wandered over there nini Jul 2018 #3
RWers, and the flood of Bots that drove positive Trump & Wwcd Jul 2018 #2
yep.. just like about everything else on the internet nini Jul 2018 #4
As far as Wikipedia goes, that section is mediocre. Oneironaut Jul 2018 #5
Agree backtoblue Jul 2018 #20
One can learn a lot by making a study of the Revision history Brother Buzz Jul 2018 #6
November 2016 was a busy time nini Jul 2018 #16
Check out what was edited out in December. lapucelle Jul 2018 #26
Oh my nini Jul 2018 #29
Who created the Wikipedia page? left-of-center2012 Jul 2018 #7
Are you kidding me? pangaia Jul 2018 #15
Any one can create a page left-of-center2012 Jul 2018 #23
right, I just meant that it looks to be 92.957% anti DU.. pangaia Jul 2018 #24
Not terrible comprehensive treestar Jul 2018 #8
no kidding nini Jul 2018 #14
No mention of canetoad Jul 2018 #18
That thread is highly recommended. irisblue Jul 2018 #19
I remember that. kcr Jul 2018 #21
That was the best thing I've read all day. lapucelle Jul 2018 #28
Kudzu nini Jul 2018 #30
The door buzzard thread was even funnier. Tipperary Jul 2018 #32
Hadn't seen that one treestar Jul 2018 #33
Are we able to edit it? jpak Jul 2018 #9
Anyone can edit a page mnhtnbb Jul 2018 #25
I don't remember the conspiracy posts about the Tsunami? Quixote1818 Jul 2018 #10
I don't either nini Jul 2018 #13
A Yugoslavian Russian hack creates a hit piece on weeky..... pbmus Jul 2018 #11
WOW! Is THAT ever a hit job. pangaia Jul 2018 #12
Wikipedia is worthless for anything political. hunter Jul 2018 #17
It's Wikipedia. The encyclopedia that YOU edit. Odoreida Jul 2018 #22
This means NotASurfer Jul 2018 #27
Until someone reverts it. Odoreida Jul 2018 #31
LOL! nt Quixote1818 Jul 2018 #34
I just now googled it and it's Upthevibe Jun 2020 #35

nini

(16,672 posts)
3. I just had never wandered over there
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 05:39 PM
Jul 2018

I'm sure they're true but obviously if everything said is negative it's not hard to determine who would do it.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
2. RWers, and the flood of Bots that drove positive Trump &
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 05:38 PM
Jul 2018

negative Clinton google search topics to the top of the page & kept them there.
2016

They drove up the "likes" also.

This is nowhere more evident than seeing the scant crowd at Trump's inaguration.

The online 'likes' weren't real people.

Oneironaut

(5,487 posts)
5. As far as Wikipedia goes, that section is mediocre.
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 05:44 PM
Jul 2018

The paragraph about “a poster hoping for more bloodshed in Iraq” either needs to be expanded upon or removed, imo. I see nothing wrong with talking about (relatively impartial) criticism against DU in the news, though, as that’s just reporting what happened at the time. There’s nothing wrong with those statements if they’re true.

It’s a problem when people try to turn Wikipedia into their own political instrument, though, which the site needs to defend itself against every day. For example, the part about “a poster wishing for more bloodshed in Iraq” as every site has trolls. If this poster’s post was widely reported in the news, then it becomes acceptable.

Wikipedia has the same impartiality issues that every other written media has. How much bias is ok? Who says what is biased, and what is not? If something is being deleted, is it being deleted for a legitimate reason, or does the deleter have an agenda?

I would say ty criticism section is ok, but needs work. Who wanted more bloodshed in Iraq, and why is this fact relevant? A one-off troll post is not a controversy. Something the admins needed to publicly address is noteworthy.

Remember - Wikipedia is not there to make DU look good. It’s supposed to be a neutral, scholarly article about DU. Wikipedia succeeds at this sometimes, and sometimes it misses the mark.

backtoblue

(11,343 posts)
20. Agree
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 08:24 PM
Jul 2018
would say ty criticism section is ok, but needs work. Who wanted more bloodshed in Iraq, and why is this fact relevant? A one-off troll post is not a controversy. Something the admins needed to publicly address is noteworthy.



lapucelle

(18,190 posts)
26. Check out what was edited out in December.
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 09:42 PM
Jul 2018
Russian involvement
Their virulently bigoted membership routinely engage in a form of unchecked populism that is highly discriminatory to various ethnic groups (including Slavs). In fact, they will likely erroneously label this a "hack" and subsequently blame "the Russians" or as their foaming at the mouth fringe will say: "the Kremlin" or "the Soviets" in typical hubris laced hysterics.


https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Democratic_Underground&oldid=816429675

treestar

(82,383 posts)
8. Not terrible comprehensive
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 06:08 PM
Jul 2018

there could be more history and description.

And if they missed the Mixed Animal thread, cornflakes and chicken and the Olive Garden, they know nothing of DU!

canetoad

(17,137 posts)
18. No mention of
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 08:02 PM
Jul 2018

The monkeys being in control of the cabana????

On edit: Had to add a link to this legendary thread for anyone who hasn't read it.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1018577487

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
32. The door buzzard thread was even funnier.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 10:10 AM
Jul 2018

I think I was only lurking back then, but I remember rolling out of my chair laughing.

mnhtnbb

(31,374 posts)
25. Anyone can edit a page
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 09:29 PM
Jul 2018

Just go up to the top bar of the page and click on edit.

Maybe we should make it a weekend DU project.

Quixote1818

(28,921 posts)
10. I don't remember the conspiracy posts about the Tsunami?
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 06:24 PM
Jul 2018

Was that really that big a deal? Probably just a handful of posters out of tens of thousands at DU. The thing is ANY online discussion forum is going to have plenty of nutty stuff from .00001 % of the posters. Not sure why that was even covered on Wikipedia?

nini

(16,672 posts)
13. I don't either
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 06:29 PM
Jul 2018

I've seen some crazy stuff here over the years and it gets shot down accordingly.. But you'd' think that's all that goes on DU. It's such a sign of the insanity we are living through.

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
11. A Yugoslavian Russian hack creates a hit piece on weeky.....
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 06:24 PM
Jul 2018

And we actually lend credence to byteflush.....

hunter

(38,304 posts)
17. Wikipedia is worthless for anything political.
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 07:31 PM
Jul 2018

But they do well covering subjects beyond the grasp of a typical Trump voter.

If you want to know about subjects like Diesel engines, Clocks, or Calculus, then Wikipedia is fairly no-nonsense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_engine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pendulum_clock

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calculus

Otherwise it's too often a playground for a protected class of white libertarian men of limited life experience, inhabitants of the proverbial "Mom's Basement," be it actual biological Mom, or whatever tech corp they currently toil for.

NotASurfer

(2,147 posts)
27. This means
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 09:55 PM
Jul 2018

We can replace "Donald Trump" with "Fuckface von Clownstick" with abandon

On Wickipedia at least

Upthevibe

(8,018 posts)
35. I just now googled it and it's
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 07:32 PM
Jun 2020

ridiculous. I wanted to get the date of when DU started and there was nothing but negativity on the wiki page.

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