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Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 04:47 AM Jul 2018

The concept of not worrying about that which you can't control.

I think there was a thread recently reminding people not to worry about things they can't control. I regret that I didn't get around to reading it, and now I can't find it. I'm just wondering how people feel about the standard advice that one not worry about things one can't control.

How do you determine (or define) what's within your control? Isn't there very little that is truly within an individual's control? How much control do I have, for instance, over Trump's zero tolerance policy?

Aren't many of the threads started on DU all about things virtually none of us can control? Or do we have control simply by virtue of being able to vote? If that's the case, then I suppose you could argue that almost everything is within an individual's control, but that seems to be stretching what constitutes control. And, even if being able to vote does in fact mean almost everything is within our control, that would mean we should worry about virtually everything. That can't be healthy, right?

Perhaps it would also be good to define 'worry'.

Anyway, these are genuine questions with which I struggle (I've read articles on how to not worry about things one can't control, but I haven't found them to be particularly helpful). I'm hoping some DU posters will offer up some insight.

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CozyMystery

(652 posts)
1. What is within my control is my behavior, my thoughts, my speech
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 06:30 AM
Jul 2018

However, even my brain isn't within my control, according to what I've studied.

Here's how I look at it. I tell myself to keep moving forward, to do what I can. I focus on that, unless I read the online newspapers (WaPo and NYT) or come to DU. During those times, I am generally focused on my horror and anger at what is happening in this country. I get stressed and angry and have subversive thoughts about what I could do (or want someone else to do, since I would never carry out those actions myself). These are un-civil thoughts about illegal activity that shouldn't be discussed here, particularly since these thoughts have zero chance of being put into speech or action by me.

Basically, I compartmentalize. I don't allow myself, to the extent possible, to dwell on things after I leave the news sites, DU, the conversations I have with others IRL about our country's situation, and the emails and phone calls I make to my representatives.

When I keep "moving forward", I have one thing on my mind -- the task I am currently doing. I don't multitask and the most I think ahead is to the next two things I plan to do, and that only for a moment or two. Usually the task is part of a larger project because I am a project-oriented person.

If I am doing something that doesn't engage my brain sufficiently, I chose what to think about. When intrusive thoughts occur, I think them because gee, how do I keep them out? When I catch mysel expanding upon them, I return to thinking about whatever I was mulling over previously.

I am considering taking up meditation again, but as a Master Procrastinator who doesn't like to sit still with nothing to do, I have been putting it off. Yes, even though I know it is beneficial from personal experience.

I have many books on my reading list about social and political issues, but I do not read only those books. I read plenty of nonfiction about subjects which don't get me het up, and lots of fiction, too. I have always read a lot, and the fiction is a great escape from reality.

Sometimes I get so upset with current conditions that I play games on my computer. I focus on the winning the games (I am very competitive with myself), and calm down. This is effective for me, even though it wastes up to several hours. The waste is worth the benefit to me.

Exercise helps a lot, too. If I were healthier and younger, I would run because those endorphins used to kick in fairly quickly, or play racquetball. Something fun that would really help to clear my mind and lower my stress level.

As to defining worry, I characterize it as ruminating over a bad (or potentially bad situation) and carrying it out to its extremes. This is not productive because I have no control over those situations. I can be a Master Worrier and I do my best to distract myself from worrying. I am not always successful.

Worry is not the same thing as thinking about a situation and figuring out out what I can personally do to resolve it, and then actually doing it.

Basically, I alone don't have the money or the power to effectuate lasting change for this country. What I do have is the ability to do what I can and hope that, in concert with like-minded people, the group can effectuate the changes that are needed. I am one small cog in the wheel of change, and I am glad to be part of the cogs.

As of yesterday, the top thing that worries me is that by repressing my feelings (ie, consciously not thinking about things that cause me to feel bad after I have done what is within my control about my situation) is actually not such a good idea for my mental health. I don't know much about repression its effects on physical and mental health, so I may just repress that concern as well. I just happen to be reading a book about it right now, and the thought occurred to me because of that.

I hope someone here is knowledgeable about the aforementioned issue.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
7. Staying informed inevitably exposes one to horrors over which we have no direct control.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 02:59 PM
Jul 2018

Honestly, I think I just need to spend a lot less time on DU.

I think there's a difference between distracting yourself with other pursuits or accepting that something is outside your sphere of influence and repression.

Anyway, thanks for your thoughts.

Kaleva

(36,259 posts)
2. You have quite a bit of control on how you respond. Not so much on how you react.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 07:08 AM
Jul 2018

"A reaction is instant. It’s driven by the beliefs, biases, and prejudices of the unconscious mind. When you say or do something “without thinking,” that’s the unconscious mind running the show. A reaction is based in the moment and doesn’t take into consideration long term effects of what you do or say. A reaction is survival-oriented and on some level a defense mechanism. It might turn out okay but often a reaction is something you regret later."

"A response on the other hand usually comes more slowly. It’s based on information from both the conscious mind and unconscious mind. A response will be more “ecological,” meaning that it takes into consideration the well-being of not only you but those around you. It weighs the long term effects and stays in line with your core values."

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/focus-forgiveness/201609/react-vs-respond

With training and self discipline, one can respond (GOTV) to outside stimuli (Trump's zero tolerance policy) rather then react (worry).

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
3. Read the Power of Now, Ekhart Tolle.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 07:43 AM
Jul 2018

As well as his other books, it is quite relaxing and inspirational. Your thoughts, your unconscious mind are not who "you" are. The only thing that really exists is the present moment, everything else is just an illusion created by the ego. One can learn from the past and plan for the future but it does no good to feel bad about the past and worry about the future. We are all bombarded by unconscious talking in our heads, that's not who we are, we are the being who is listening to those thoughts.

The suggestion to meditate is a good suggestion, thinking of nothing is refreshing, and when you hear those crazy thoughts in your head just pause and smile, that's just the ego.

barbtries

(28,769 posts)
4. i think we are living in an exceptional time.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:36 AM
Jul 2018

i do believe that our democracy is at risk here. and i do worry. but ultimately it is the people who have the power. it's never in my life been more important to engage, demonstrate, write, call, vote, encourage others to vote, and wield the power of the people. to disseminate the truth of what trump and the republicans are doing, which is destroying the country, possibly even the planet.

i took a vacation. i also work. i can't do as much as i wish i could. sometimes i take an hour or so and watch cute babies and puppies on youtube. having said that i think i am better informed than almost anyone else i know. almost!

so, worry. was a curse put on me by my mother. in any case i will worry. mostly about my children in normal times, but in a very real sense the worry i suffer these days is also about my children, my grandchildren, their children, and so on. so i do what i can to stay as calm as i can, but i cannot turn away, i cannot just go on my merry way, and i can't stop worrying. i can only try.

if you've never read it, i suggest A People's History by Howard Zinn. What I retain from reading it is the certain knowledge that the power, the REAL power, rests with the people. We the people will save the country.

i'm sorry i can't help you with the edict to not worry. i worry, i do. i just try to give myself a break in that regard. my vacation was a wonderful thing, it brought my work/life balance back. so i don't worry about work so much now, which lifted a lot of stress from my head. as for the state of the country and the world, i'll do what i can to change this and wring my hands a lot. i mean they're stealing babies away and locking them in prisons. they're breaking promises right and left. they're stealing from us. trump is not sane and the republicans have absolutely absconded on their oaths of office and their duties to uphold the constitution. it's not good times these days.

ck4829

(35,039 posts)
5. Just *do* things. Don't worry about control or lack of control.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:48 AM
Jul 2018

On the other side, what control does Trump actually have over his zero tolerance policy? His power does not come from divine origin, it is not some sort of psychic leash over ICE, and he certainly isn't superhuman. He says X and people obey X. That can be taken away and it doesn't require revolution or even an election.

Vote and do more.
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