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The republicans give Jim Jordan the benefit of the doubt (Original Post) spanone Jul 2018 OP
You are absolutely correct regarding Al Franken.... FarPoint Jul 2018 #1
I think it was actually Roger Stone who planned it. bitterross Jul 2018 #6
Accuser was a Fox news reporter... FarPoint Jul 2018 #12
Call. 202 224 3121 WhiteTara Jul 2018 #2
I'd recommend 'rapist' over 'pedophile' ... given these victims were not children (nt) mr_lebowski Jul 2018 #17
Jim Jordan turned a blind eye to the rape of teenage boys. WhiteTara Jul 2018 #19
'Teenage' or not, they were almost certainly all adults by law ... mr_lebowski Jul 2018 #21
Actually some of them were high school kids. Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #22
And we know this ... how? mr_lebowski Jul 2018 #25
I live in Ohio and heard it on the news...high school kids sports teams go to Ohio State. Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #27
Oh, wow, huh ... terrible. But, unfortunately he's apparently not claiming Jordan knew of Strauss' mr_lebowski Jul 2018 #30
With Perkins Coie leading the investigation, Republicans were quickly and easily able to... Kotya Jul 2018 #3
Well, yes. theaocp Jul 2018 #4
Team D is too busy bluecollar2 Jul 2018 #14
Stop attacking Democrats...pretty sick of this. Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #29
What would be the point? He is not one of us...and doesn't care what we think... Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #23
Call you congress critter 202 224 3121 WhiteTara Jul 2018 #20
These dopey delaying tactics never work out well for them. C_U_L8R Jul 2018 #5
This is the same Jim Jordan Va Lefty Jul 2018 #7
He is going to fall just wait. Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #24
The doormats give the Fraud the benefit Cha Jul 2018 #8
Truth will out and it will be worse than we know now malaise Jul 2018 #9
Like that's a shock. bitterross Jul 2018 #10
Katon Dawson on AM Joy this morning DeminPennswoods Jul 2018 #11
Still no word out of Senator Gillibrand ? sarcasmo Jul 2018 #13
Your memory is faulty mythology Jul 2018 #15
Awesome! theaocp Jul 2018 #16
...? spanone Jul 2018 #18
Until it becomes obvious Jordan is lying, then they run to the hills beachbum bob Jul 2018 #26
I just hope the seven accusers or more get lots and lots of face time in the media to tell all. nt Snotcicles Jul 2018 #28

FarPoint

(12,293 posts)
1. You are absolutely correct regarding Al Franken....
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 11:01 AM
Jul 2018

Not getting Democratic Party support...I suspect the entire political attack was planned by Fox News and underground GOP monies.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
6. I think it was actually Roger Stone who planned it.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 11:33 AM
Jul 2018

Seriously. I think Roger Stone planned it. FOX just always helps out.

FarPoint

(12,293 posts)
12. Accuser was a Fox news reporter...
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 12:12 PM
Jul 2018

I believe it, the photo was all in comedy.. then story was twisted to suggest harassment.

WhiteTara

(29,694 posts)
2. Call. 202 224 3121
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 11:01 AM
Jul 2018

call jordan's office. Call your congress critter's office. Demand his resignation. Call all the time. Make those staffers work for their money. Make them report how many people are disgusted with the pedophile appeaser. If nothing else, make jordan's life difficult.

WhiteTara

(29,694 posts)
19. Jim Jordan turned a blind eye to the rape of teenage boys.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 03:36 PM
Jul 2018

He needs to leave Congress. I believe he is a mandated court reporter for sexual and physical abuse and he failed his duty.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
21. 'Teenage' or not, they were almost certainly all adults by law ...
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 03:46 PM
Jul 2018

Actual Pedophiles are into children. Like, once they're past puberty, they're over the hill to a pedophile. I said this same thing about Roy Moore. He is an Ephebophile, not a Pedophile (that we know of).

Look, I get it, you want to use the most vile-sounding terminology possible ... I'm just saying why not stick to 'factual terms'?

So ... 'Jordan looked the other way, while teenagers under his supervision were molested and probably raped'. That's accurate. Why not go with that?

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
25. And we know this ... how?
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 03:56 PM
Jul 2018

Why would 'high schools kids' ... be on the OSU wrestling team?

And if you are telling me that there WERE such cases, are you also asserting these minors were showering with 18-22 year old grown-ass men?

'Cause if that's the case, that entire school administration needs to be brought the fuck down, regardless of Strauss, cause THAT should NOT have been happening.

I'd think even our GOP lap-dog Media would be making a pretty big deal about it if what you're suggesting ... was known to be true. That fact would take things to a whole different level.

Demsrule86

(68,504 posts)
27. I live in Ohio and heard it on the news...high school kids sports teams go to Ohio State.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 04:03 PM
Jul 2018

"Former Ohio State wrestler Mike DiSabato told NBC News that Jordan is a “liar” for saying he did not know about the alleged abuse.

“He knew,” DiSabato said in a brief phone interview with The Post. “That’s not a question. Why he had a spokesman put out misinformation is frankly beyond comprehension, because is he the target of this? No. It was common knowledge and he knew.”

DiSabato said he was first abused by Strauss at 14 as a high school wrestler. He said he believes Strauss abused 1,000-2,000 young athletes.

“He was Larry Nassar before Larry Nassar,” DiSabato said, referring to the disgraced former sports physician who was sentenced to up to 175 years in prison for sexually abusing girls and young women."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/jim-jordan-denies-allegations-that-he-ignored-sexual-abuse-of-wrestlers-at-ohio-state/2018/07/03/692864f6-7edc-11e8-bb6b-c1cb691f1402_story.html?utm_term=.f87743ac0676

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
30. Oh, wow, huh ... terrible. But, unfortunately he's apparently not claiming Jordan knew of Strauss'
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 04:27 PM
Jul 2018

abuse of kids as young as 14 years old, all he knows for sure is that Strauss did so.

And Jordan will likely exercise his excuse that these HS kids weren't under his supervision/in the locker room, so he 'had no idea'.

IOW, we still don't know for sure Jordan knew he was looking the other way about a child molester ... 'just' a molester and probable rapist.

BUT ... if someone goes on record saying they KNOW that Jordan was aware boys as young as 14 were being abused by this monster, and he STILL didn't go to the cops ... then I have to think he cannot possibly survive this, politically.

Unfortunately it's probably going to take >1 person saying he was abused as a minor, AND that Jordan had to have known Strauss was molesting children because they personally told him so ... as sad as that is to ponder.

Ultimately it's the GOP here we have to depend on 'doing the right thing' ... which is a very tall order, as we all know. They're going to demand overwhelming evidence ... ya know, cause they're fuckheads.


 

Kotya

(235 posts)
3. With Perkins Coie leading the investigation, Republicans were quickly and easily able to...
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 11:04 AM
Jul 2018

...dismiss the allegations against Jordan as nothing more than a partisan political witch hunt.

I mean, seriously, did anyone expect anything different?

Demsrule86

(68,504 posts)
23. What would be the point? He is not one of us...and doesn't care what we think...
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 03:49 PM
Jul 2018

there has been talk but beyond that what? I prefer to continue to fight for the kids kidnapped by Trump.

WhiteTara

(29,694 posts)
20. Call you congress critter 202 224 3121
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 03:38 PM
Jul 2018

demand they live up to the moral standards they impose. Call often. They have hearing and memory problems. By calling, you are helping them out (hopefully out of office) but at least demanding the man who witnessed rape of teenage boys and did nothing does not deserve the title Representative.

Be sure and call Jordan's office too--as many times a day as you think about how angry you are for those kids.

Cha

(296,893 posts)
8. The doormats give the Fraud the benefit
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 11:36 AM
Jul 2018

of doubt.

But, this will follow both of them the rest of their lives.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
10. Like that's a shock.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 11:46 AM
Jul 2018

Actually, I'm surprised they haven't floated the idea that the doctor was a Democratic leader in something or another and that's why he was an abuser.

DeminPennswoods

(15,265 posts)
11. Katon Dawson on AM Joy this morning
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 11:50 AM
Jul 2018

Spouting the talking point that these young men were 18, 19, 20... so it's no big deal. He also was hinting that all this coming out now was suspicious because Jordan might run for speaker.

None of this will work because more wrestlers are coming forward and sooner or later Hellickson, the head wrestling coach, will be asked about what happened.

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