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Cop pulls gun on kids (Original Post) malaise Jul 2018 OP
. Coventina Jul 2018 #1
Yeah, uh ... not exactly the most sympathetic victims I've seen ... I'll leave it at that ... (nt) mr_lebowski Jul 2018 #2
Because you cannot explain it? nt USALiberal Jul 2018 #7
No, because I'm pretty sure the right-wing will distribute this video WITHOUT the gun-pulling part mr_lebowski Jul 2018 #12
Try adding respect to the restraint and they might eventually get there. MuseRider Jul 2018 #15
All I said was they're not a very sympathetic crowd ... mr_lebowski Jul 2018 #21
Yes. This is ugly on a number of levels. cwydro Jul 2018 #20
"apart from the gun pull" mythology Jul 2018 #24
Obviously if one of the children had been murdered, this would be a different convo ... mr_lebowski Jul 2018 #27
Bratty kids who are hurting no one do not deserve to have cops point guns at them. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2018 #11
I'd agree the cop screwed up there, but unless you're only going to show like 5 seconds of the vid mr_lebowski Jul 2018 #14
Fuck those supporters and the rest of their kind wellst0nev0ter Jul 2018 #22
Post removed Post removed Jul 2018 #3
The little ones calling him a "p-ssy-ass n-gg-r?" Good lord. Tipperary Jul 2018 #8
The kids are fine wellst0nev0ter Jul 2018 #23
Yes, because misogyny and racism are great building blocks for life mythology Jul 2018 #26
I'm more agast at adults who call minors "obnoxious trash" wellst0nev0ter Jul 2018 #28
Lol, I did not even KNOW those words at that age. Well, the n-word I did, because my mom and Tipperary Jul 2018 #31
I am not advocating anything. I was just sad to see children use that kind of language - Tipperary Jul 2018 #29
WTH did they do? MuseRider Jul 2018 #4
The cops were arresting one of their friends. B2G Jul 2018 #6
I saw a friend get arrested. We were shocked, but we were quiet. Tipperary Jul 2018 #10
I was a little white girl so no, there would be no arresting a child, a friend that age. MuseRider Jul 2018 #13
I was a white girl too, and my friend was white. So much for that. Tipperary Jul 2018 #17
I'm guessing he deserved to be arrested n/t wellst0nev0ter Jul 2018 #25
He was speeding. He would have gotten a ticket, but he mouthed off. He said nothing even CLOSE Tipperary Jul 2018 #30
Any guns pulled on him? wellst0nev0ter Jul 2018 #32
I certainly do not think the cop should have pulled his gun. Absolutely not. Tipperary Jul 2018 #33
A most creative story. LanternWaste Jul 2018 #34
Normalizing oppression of children by an occupying police force. guillaumeb Jul 2018 #5
Yes indeed malaise Jul 2018 #19
I don't understand how these moronic cops don't realize that they're about to go viral online. Bleacher Creature Jul 2018 #9
Charming children. WillowTree Jul 2018 #16
I am sure they are all good students and respectful to their teachers. Tipperary Jul 2018 #18
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
12. No, because I'm pretty sure the right-wing will distribute this video WITHOUT the gun-pulling part
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 07:38 PM
Jul 2018

To 'illustrate' what the cops have to put up with when it comes to dealing with 'those people' (not my thinking, theirs).

Having 10 year old kids screeching 'You P***y ass Ni**ers!!!' at the police, along with similar disrespectful shit being shouted at them, and the fact that apart from the gun pull, they act with the utmost restraint the whole time ... it's actually perfect propaganda for 'the other side' ... and I expect they'll edit it ... and use it.

Whoever posted this was not thinking things through when it comes to overall 'picture' of what's going on.

MuseRider

(34,095 posts)
15. Try adding respect to the restraint and they might eventually get there.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 07:42 PM
Jul 2018

Yes I know what the kids were yelling. So what? Considering what they have seen and experienced at their ages compared to what I saw by that age can you blame them? They are kids. Until adults and those in control can suck it up and try to change this it will only get worse. Their behavior today just made it worse. Is that what we are hoping for?

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
21. All I said was they're not a very sympathetic crowd ...
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 07:59 PM
Jul 2018

I don't disagree with you brother/sister, but I AM questioning the value of this particular video when it comes to arguing for OUR 'sides' ... values.

From a 'making our case' perspective, I pretty much wish whoever had posted it ... had posted like the first 20 seconds, and then shut it the fuck off (in terms of the publicly shared content).

Know what I'm saying?

That being said, it's also brutally REAL. From a 'documentary' standpoint, it's actually pretty damn powerful. Rather see it in a Mike Moore movie ... than on youtube, put it like that.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
24. "apart from the gun pull"
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:10 PM
Jul 2018

Other than that, how was the play Mrs Lincoln?

Yes the kids are obnoxious little brats, but pulling a gun on them is far past the line. You shouldn't get too much credit for doing most of the right things if you do one of the biggest things wrong.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
27. Obviously if one of the children had been murdered, this would be a different convo ...
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:22 PM
Jul 2018

What I'm getting at is ... this vid sadly has just as much propaganda value for 'the other side' as it does for 'us'.

No matter our feelings on how wrong what this cop did was with pulling the gun, there's a TON of people in this country that, if they watched the whole thing, will decide that these cops acted in an admirable way.

They'll ask 'well, what were these people doing before the video that precipitated the police acting this way'? And when they see the rest of the video, they'll imagine that what was going on before the gun incident ... was much the same as what happened after.

There's a LOT of people in this country that don't think this is appropriate behavior, esp. when it's 'those people' doing so. Not saying it's right, just saying ... that's how it is.

If vids showing abusive behavior by cops towards minorities are going to 'go viral' ... I'd really much rather they not come off like this video does.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,308 posts)
11. Bratty kids who are hurting no one do not deserve to have cops point guns at them.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 07:37 PM
Jul 2018

One adult and one minor were arrested for criminal trespass. This reaction from the cop is excessive; his department agrees, putting him on desk duty while they review protocol.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
14. I'd agree the cop screwed up there, but unless you're only going to show like 5 seconds of the vid
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 07:41 PM
Jul 2018

The overall video does NOT look good for the people involved.

In fact, all but those roughly 5 seconds? They look and especially SOUND ... fairly great for supporters of racist cops.

That's what I'm saying.

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
22. Fuck those supporters and the rest of their kind
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:06 PM
Jul 2018

If those jackasses complain, show them this video. Double standard anyone?

Response to malaise (Original post)

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
8. The little ones calling him a "p-ssy-ass n-gg-r?" Good lord.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 07:27 PM
Jul 2018

He should not have pulled his gun, but those kids are not on a good path to a good life.

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
23. The kids are fine
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:09 PM
Jul 2018

Unless you're advocating arresting every kid who mouths off and cusses. Then we got a different problem on our hands.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
26. Yes, because misogyny and racism are great building blocks for life
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:15 PM
Jul 2018

Just because they don't deserve to be arrested doesn't mean they aren't obnoxious trash. For example if I ever said anything like that at their age, my mom would have smacked me upside the head and for good reason.

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
28. I'm more agast at adults who call minors "obnoxious trash"
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:22 PM
Jul 2018

than by anything that came out of these kids' mouths.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
31. Lol, I did not even KNOW those words at that age. Well, the n-word I did, because my mom and
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:33 PM
Jul 2018

dad had told me it was the worst word when some business associate of my dad’s said it and I heard it.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
29. I am not advocating anything. I was just sad to see children use that kind of language -
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:27 PM
Jul 2018

complete with sexist and racist language. Ugly at any age, but very sad to see at that age.

MuseRider

(34,095 posts)
4. WTH did they do?
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 07:18 PM
Jul 2018

Jesus, it just keeps getting worse and worse. When you think they have hit bottom they bully other countries over breast milk and then pull guns on little kids, haul them down and sit on them and pull their arms hard behind their backs. Mothers shoot those kids one look and they stop what they are doing but these guys with all the power cannot help but make the situation worse and then they act like it is worse for them as they pull weapons and twist arms at kids 1/4 their size.

These men may have a job that requires more bravery than I will ever have but they just cannot help making it worse.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
6. The cops were arresting one of their friends.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 07:20 PM
Jul 2018

Don't know what for, but would you and your friends have acted like that when you were a kid?

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
10. I saw a friend get arrested. We were shocked, but we were quiet.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 07:29 PM
Jul 2018

Even at that age, I knew being a little idiot would not help him or anyone else.

MuseRider

(34,095 posts)
13. I was a little white girl so no, there would be no arresting a child, a friend that age.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 07:39 PM
Jul 2018

Especially a white child. There were a lot of black kids being arrested and yes, if I had seen a friend of mine arrested like that I might very well have yelled, in fact I am sure I would. I don't easily back down from wrong doing. A few years later when the Vietnam was going we all were yelling but we were older.

Considering the way police have been acting in these communities I would say if they want them to stop yelling and reacting like that perhaps they should change their attitudes toward that community. You seriously do not understand this?

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
30. He was speeding. He would have gotten a ticket, but he mouthed off. He said nothing even CLOSE
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:28 PM
Jul 2018

to what those kids said.

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
32. Any guns pulled on him?
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 09:16 PM
Jul 2018

In that context, all the handwringings from the tone police sound meaningless, doesn't it?

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
33. I certainly do not think the cop should have pulled his gun. Absolutely not.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 09:21 PM
Jul 2018

My friend was thrown rather roughly against the car. The cop was an asshole. My post was in response to the poster who said white kids would not get arrested.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
5. Normalizing oppression of children by an occupying police force.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 07:18 PM
Jul 2018

Palestinian children, Iraqi children, Afghani children, Yemeni children, all would well understand the tactics and the mindset.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
18. I am sure they are all good students and respectful to their teachers.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 07:48 PM
Jul 2018

I have had two friends leave the teaching field because they were talked to like that, and the administration would never back them up. Both were devoted to teaching and heartbroken at what the schools have become.

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