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(8,922 posts)Trump followers = Tribalism
Girard442
(6,070 posts)They think that because their words sound good inside their heads, they've crafted a good argument.
c-rational
(2,590 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Thinking them through for 5 seconds exposes major holes.
SamKnause
(13,091 posts)Pertains to U.S. citizens:
If one parent gets arrested your children are not taken from their home and flown to another state.
You will not be told they have no idea where your children are.
Your children will not be housed in prisons or vacant buildings.
If both parents get arrested their children are not deported.
They stay with relatives or HHS will intervene.
It is apparent they would not do what it takes to protect their own children, or they would understand
the threat these immigrants are facing.
They are EVIL FUCKING LIARS without an ounce of empathy or sympathy.
No one should be getting arrested for a misdemeanor.
Initech
(100,063 posts)Apparently the talking point among Trump fans is that since we'll be focused on ripping apart his SCOTUS nominee (which is totally expected) it will take the heat off the family separations going on at the border. WTF is wrong with these asshats?
Volaris
(10,270 posts)Initech
(100,063 posts)IronLionZion
(45,426 posts)but their response is that Google is liberal propaganda or they don't have time for a 2 second online search because they work for a living and don't depend on socialism for handouts.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)They defend willful ignorance.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)stupidity, and having people willingly be missiles of imbecility...that is the special genius of Trump...aided and abetted by the Fox News rocket control centre, without which the whole mission would blow up on the Launchpad.
treestar
(82,383 posts)czarjak
(11,266 posts)IronLionZion
(45,426 posts)in response to easily verifiable data from reputable sources.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)These children are detained on their own account, for being undocumented. That is why there are 3-year-olds in court. If you commit a regular crime, your child is not a party to the case. Not the same thing at all.
And they are willing to do this to someone just for the "crime" of coming illegally (as they see it, we know it is legal to ask for asylum. They refuse to get this).
nolabear
(41,959 posts)Also a favorite Mafia technique.
no_hypocrisy
(46,080 posts)They were breaking the law by simply living in their homes in Germany and thus they deserved the policing and prosecution.
Funny how the Law works, huh?
Ohiogal
(31,975 posts)"If they want to come here so bad, then let them go back and apply for citizenship and do it the right way."
There is so much wrong with that statement I'd need two pages to type it out. Yet I hear that a lot around here.
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)MarianJack
(10,237 posts)...if you broke the law your children wouldn't be put into concentration camps. DUH.
RESIST!
bucolic_frolic
(43,127 posts)and sick of links to Tweets without posting the text also because some members don't automatically load the Tweet in real time, every time
jaxind
(1,074 posts)These families are trying to seek asylum...they are not trying to break the law! Secondly, if you as an American, break the law, your children are not put in a cage! And your child would most likely go to the other parent or to some loving family member! They would not be held in a cage without any love or affection!!!!
ffr
(22,669 posts)Just you wait.
elmac
(4,642 posts)Nazi laws. Many were murdered for breaking laws. That excuse has been used by fascist pigs since the beginning.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)It ain't against the law
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)louis-t
(23,292 posts)go around saying to themselves all day. Morons.
calimary
(81,210 posts)All those talking points and the marketing machinery behind them.
Its very carefully strategized and crafted to sound reasonable.
Crunchy Frog
(26,579 posts)They've been building this propaganda infrastructure for decades.
Butterflylady
(3,542 posts)Even if she was parted from her kids for something done illegally, she would still no where they were and a family member was taking care of them. These people did nothing illegally and where asking for asylum. That is nothing to have your kids disappear for and not be able to find them. How would she like that? That seems to be the answer we should give to the dumb sh*t.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)misdemeanor, it's an infraction (at least in the states I've lived in).
And I believe there are misdemeanors for which a person can go to jail (at least a judge could decide to put you in jail for it, whether it often happens I'm not sure).
However, your child is not taken away from your family because you committed a crime and put into jail as well. And you know where they are while you're locked up (presumably). That's the more important point IMHO.
Kashkakat v.2.0
(1,752 posts)unblock
(52,195 posts)The dehumanization step toward genocide nearly always starts with accusing the target group of crimes (less often, it's diseases first, but usually eventually it's both).
It's really bizarre that they would pick "wanting to live in America" as the horrible crime to start with, but this is the gang that couldn't shoot straight.
What would they say if a Norwegian came to America without documents, seeking asylum? Can you imagine the outcry if a pretty white teenage blonde was put in a cage that way?
Yeah, I know what foxnews would say: "how horrible for that poor America-loving girl to be put in a cage with nineteen likely ms-13 gang recruits! Get her out of there! Give her citizenship now!"
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,489 posts)just click on that Crystal Smith twitter link. You'll get at least 10 years worth of Bible quotes, James Woods posts and sickening accolades for tRump. Demonstrates exactly how so many are trapped in the anti-American right-wing bubble.
It appears that many responders posting the most outrageous lies are bots. These people are totally brainwashed and insane......
Good response, Shred!......
maryellen99
(3,788 posts)Cha
(297,137 posts)Not what fucking Crystal Smith spouts.. and she thinks James Woods' is the bomb. lol
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)'I'm a human being first, a partisan second.' it must be done face to face, so I can look them in the eye.
KT2000
(20,572 posts)have heard this but they are missing the point that the children are put into prisons - without a plan for even reuniting them with parents. The state does not take possession of children when a parent is sent to jail or as I have also heard - enter the military.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)...are avoiding addressing the crisis by excusing any Administration action.
Cha
(297,137 posts)Thanks for explaining the law to her brainwashed babble.
LeftInTX
(25,244 posts)If she is arrested for a misdemeanor: She will be processed at the police station and will be sent home. She will get a summons in the mail. She will appear in court. She will probably be assigned community service or pay a fine.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)LeftInTX
(25,244 posts)Two guys living in Miami pretend to be gay, so they could room in an expensive high rise with Priyanka Chopra. Like Jack Tripper in Three's Company, but unlike Jack Tripper, these two behave flamboyantly and it is the focus on the film.
Abhishek and John find out they can get some type of asylum if they apply for citizenship as a gay couple. The application somehow gets sent to Abhishek's mom. A gay INS agent shows up to their apartment demanding proof that they are gay, so they throw a party. Mom rushes from India and crashes the party. Mom has a nervous breakdown.
Of course, they both fall for Priyanka while trying to keep up the facade.
The whole movie is funny...
GoCubsGo
(32,079 posts)Complete wastes of human flesh, the lot of them.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)She probably doesnt give a shit abut her kids either.
She sounds like a horrible mother.
Mariana
(14,854 posts)If a parent is arrested and charged with a crime, the kids stay with the other parent, some other relative, or are placed in foster care. That is not what's being done with these children.
jmowreader
(50,553 posts)The only way we're ever going to get our country back is to buy some acreage in Africa, name it Trumpland, and deport people like Crystal Smith to it. I don't know what this woman thinks she is, but she's no American.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)When I was 14 1/2 and he 18. He was denying I knew my own age. LOL
Sophia4
(3,515 posts)The terrible problems in the countries of their births need to be dealt with.
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)Am I likely to get arrested in a situation like that? No, because of white privilege. I don't look or talk like what the far right thinks of as a "threat."
Many/most of the families trying to cross the US/Mexico border are FLEEING situations where they are in tremendous peril. But they're brown, not white, and poor, and speak a different language. That's it.
These people aren't criminals, they are refugees.
Yes
ProfessorGAC
(64,995 posts)Requires no thought and attempts to justify the irredeemable by just spouting a one-liner.
Dumb.