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The only solution for the Supreme Court (Original Post) PhilosopherKing Jul 2018 OP
First we do everything we can to stop this nomination standingtall Jul 2018 #1
We have no power to stop this. We need to focus on winning the Senate. redstateblues Jul 2018 #6
I think it is a pretty big assumption to assume it will not hurt Red State Democrats to standingtall Jul 2018 #12
We need to get past this and work on winning the Senate. redstateblues Jul 2018 #2
13 justices. roamer65 Jul 2018 #3
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2018 #9
I think that has already been tried Fla_Democrat Jul 2018 #18
There is also impeachment and removal JI7 Jul 2018 #4
Which would require more votes than it would to add supreme court Justices to the court standingtall Jul 2018 #7
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2018 #10
Wow...really? Easy Peasy with a Dem congress and president. roamer65 Jul 2018 #13
No did not say it would be easy standingtall Jul 2018 #15
The circumstances will make it easy. roamer65 Jul 2018 #16
Absolutely dalton99a Jul 2018 #5
I say if Trump is found guilty Drahthaardogs Jul 2018 #8
FDR tried this dflprincess Jul 2018 #11
If at first you don't succeed... roamer65 Jul 2018 #14
The solution is to restrict the power of the Supreme Court MarcA Jul 2018 #17
republican Governors are not going to go along with standingtall Jul 2018 #19

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
1. First we do everything we can to stop this nomination
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:21 PM
Jul 2018

after that I believe we are heading to a place where the only remedy is to change the makeup of the Supreme court once Democrats have the White House, The Senate and the Congress. If Democrats aren't willing to take this step once they have the majorities than it is going to take a disaster to fix this.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
6. We have no power to stop this. We need to focus on winning the Senate.
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:25 PM
Jul 2018

It will only hurt our red state Democrats to go on a suicide mission for a losing cause

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
12. I think it is a pretty big assumption to assume it will not hurt Red State Democrats to
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:32 PM
Jul 2018

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vote for this nomination. I think voting against this nomination is the best of the bad options for Red State Democrats. They have no good options. I have yet to see one Red State Democrat save themselves by voting with republicans come election time. It is 50 to 49 Democrats voting for this nomination lets Susan Collins off the hook.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
3. 13 justices.
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:23 PM
Jul 2018

We increase it by 4.

If the midterms are stolen, then it is time for secession.

NY, New England and CA need to go first. Others will follow.

Fla_Democrat

(2,547 posts)
18. I think that has already been tried
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 12:37 AM
Jul 2018
" If the midterms are stolen, then it is time for secession.

NY, New England and CA need to go first. Others will follow.





I think that has already been tried, think it was back in the 1860's or something. I don't recall it working out very well.





standingtall

(2,785 posts)
7. Which would require more votes than it would to add supreme court Justices to the court
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:27 PM
Jul 2018

We can repeal the law that limits Supreme court justices to 9 with a simple majority after that we could add as many as we decide with a simple majority.

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
15. No did not say it would be easy
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:36 PM
Jul 2018

just because have the majority does not mean they will vote in favor of it, but still I believe this is the direction we are headed in. Even though this way is hard it's still easier than impeachments or a constitutional amendment.

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
11. FDR tried this
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:32 PM
Jul 2018
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/roosevelt-announces-court-packing-plan


On February 5, 1937, President Franklin Roosevelt announces a controversial plan to expand the Supreme Court to as many as 15 judges, allegedly to make it more efficient. Critics immediately charged that Roosevelt was trying to “pack” the court and thus neutralize Supreme Court justices hostile to his New Deal.

During the previous two years, the high court had struck down several key pieces of New Deal legislation on the grounds that the laws delegated an unconstitutional amount of authority to the executive branch and the federal government. Flushed with his landslide reelection in 1936, President Roosevelt issued a proposal in February 1937 to provide retirement at full pay for all members of the court over 70. If a justice refused to retire, an “assistant” with full voting rights was to be appointed, thus ensuring Roosevelt a liberal majority. Most Republicans and many Democrats in Congress opposed the so-called “court-packing” plan.

In April, however, before the bill came to a vote in Congress, two Supreme Court justices came over to the liberal side and by a narrow majority upheld as constitutional the National Labor Relations Act and the Social Security Act. The majority opinion acknowledged that the national economy had grown to such a degree that federal regulation and control was now warranted. Roosevelt’s reorganization plan was thus unnecessary, and in July the Senate struck it down by a vote of 70 to 22. Soon after, Roosevelt had the opportunity to nominate his first Supreme Court justice, and by 1942 all but two of the justices were his appointees.

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
17. The solution is to restrict the power of the Supreme Court
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 12:32 AM
Jul 2018

First by Presidents and Governors not enforcing their rulings.
Then restriction on the authority of all unelected judges and
removal of lifetime appointments.

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
19. republican Governors are not going to go along with
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 01:13 AM
Jul 2018

not enforcing rulings of the Supreme Court when it is going to be ruling in their favor and even if republican or Democratic Governors were to not comply with Supreme Court rulings I'm not sure that couldn't land them in jail. Removing lifetime appointments would require a constitutional amendment which is a near impossibility. The only workable solution is to stack the court.

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