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no_hypocrisy

(46,088 posts)
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 06:23 AM Jul 2018

IT IS NOW SO OBVIOUS.

Brett Kavanaugh clerked for Justice Kennedy and the two have been close friends ever since. Justice Kennedy swore in Kavanaugh to the Court of Appeals. So here’s my theory: Justice Kennedy wanted Kavanaugh to be his successor, and decided to retire only after assurances from Trump that he would pick Kavanaugh. The Administration’s leaks about the others supposedly under consideration were merely part of Trump’s reality show. It was going to be Kavanaugh all along.

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IT IS NOW SO OBVIOUS. (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Jul 2018 OP
1 problem with that - mercuryblues Jul 2018 #1
When it benefits him. Will O Wisp Jul 2018 #6
Welcome to DU NewJeffCT Jul 2018 #18
I think so too. madaboutharry Jul 2018 #2
That's why Avenatti is calling him #DonTheCon NewJeffCT Jul 2018 #20
Yep. moondust Jul 2018 #3
This is politics... If it's not an inside job, it's an accident discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2018 #12
Exactly, because Kennedy has the power to make hughee99 Jul 2018 #19
I doubt it, but why would it matter? FBaggins Jul 2018 #4
Yep, he laid low and stayed in the judgeship. joshcryer Jul 2018 #9
He thinks presidents Scarsdale Jul 2018 #14
It's likely that all nine justices agree FBaggins Jul 2018 #29
the fix is in! BlueJac Jul 2018 #5
I think that is partially correct but... jimlup Jul 2018 #7
Well, we knew he would choose the worst possible choice. TNNurse Jul 2018 #8
You may be right. Cracklin Charlie Jul 2018 #10
Kennedy is equally concerned about what Mueller's investigation will reap. Baitball Blogger Jul 2018 #11
Bingo dalton99a Jul 2018 #17
Can't help wondering. That a justice's son Hortensis Jul 2018 #24
But was Kennedy blackmailed out of his position on the court? duforsure Jul 2018 #13
now the fight begins heaven05 Jul 2018 #15
More evidence no_hypocrisy Jul 2018 #16
well, you didn't expect him to pick a woman did you? eom LittleGirl Jul 2018 #21
I think part of the sideshow was to groom Barrett in case something happens to RBG Amishman Jul 2018 #28
This article seems to confirm your theory: lutherj Jul 2018 #22
+1 dalton99a Jul 2018 #23
Is Trump the first criminal ever that is allowed to appoint his own jury? world wide wally Jul 2018 #25
So,.then, were Kavanaugh's stated opinions that Hortensis Jul 2018 #26
It appears this was all planned neohippie Jul 2018 #27
 

Will O Wisp

(9 posts)
6. When it benefits him.
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 07:00 AM
Jul 2018

Forget keeping friends close and enemies closer. This is truly a reach around set of rules.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
18. Welcome to DU
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 08:37 AM
Jul 2018

Yes, it will benefit Trump.

And, if Trump did not name Kennedy's preferred choice, I don't think he's legally bound by a resignation letter. He could say, "After discussing with my family, I have decided to rescind my resignation and stay on the court for at least one more year."

madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
2. I think so too.
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 06:35 AM
Jul 2018

It was all just for show. The other judges who were interviewed are intelligent people and I would think they all picked up on the charade. Everything this White House, this president does is a con.

moondust

(19,979 posts)
3. Yep.
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 06:41 AM
Jul 2018

Inside job.

Probably included a confidential guarantee not to allow anything bad to happen to Drumpf.

FBaggins

(26,731 posts)
4. I doubt it, but why would it matter?
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 06:47 AM
Jul 2018

I have no doubt that Ginsburg would retire today if she were convinced that her successor would be someone who clerked for her and whose judgment she trusted. Nor would I be upset if she did.

Kavanaugh was the odds-on favorite from the beginning... so much so that when his name was not on "the list" prior to the election, many court watchers were stunned and his name was quickly added.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
9. Yep, he laid low and stayed in the judgeship.
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 07:05 AM
Jul 2018

If anything this appointment is one of Trumps few appointments that is appointing someone from their respective field, as opposed to some crony.

It's really going to be the least controversial appointment out there.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
14. He thinks presidents
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 08:15 AM
Jul 2018

can do no wrong. They can not be charged no matter what they do! THAT is why he is the chosen one.

FBaggins

(26,731 posts)
29. It's likely that all nine justices agree
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 10:31 AM
Jul 2018

It isn't that Presidents are above the law... it's that they can't be prosecuted while they are in office... You impeach and remove them instead.

If the President shoots someone at dinner... you impeach and remove him and THEN you can prosecute him for the crime.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
7. I think that is partially correct but...
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 07:01 AM
Jul 2018

I don't think the assurances part is likely true. Simply a strong suggestion to both. We can't substantiate the "assurances" and it is likely not true so we shouldn't go full bore on that one.

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
8. Well, we knew he would choose the worst possible choice.
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 07:02 AM
Jul 2018

He focuses on the person who can do the most damage.

Does anyone know of a list of things Kavanaugh said about Obama when he was in office???? They should have the same beliefs about him and his immunity from scrutiny.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
10. You may be right.
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 07:09 AM
Jul 2018

But I knew Kavanaugh was the pick last week when I saw a picture of Kavanaugh with Paul Manafort and others.

Baitball Blogger

(46,703 posts)
11. Kennedy is equally concerned about what Mueller's investigation will reap.
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 07:33 AM
Jul 2018

His son's banker business with Trump might reveal some ugly transactions. So Kavanaugh will be a selected fixer for everyone's problems.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. Can't help wondering. That a justice's son
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 09:21 AM
Jul 2018

would associate in business with a habitual crook like Trump is astonishing in itself. The mere fact that an association exists at all suggests the son's standards of behavior and judgement are inadequate.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
13. But was Kennedy blackmailed out of his position on the court?
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 07:40 AM
Jul 2018

Did trump have something on Kennedy or his son to use to force him out with?

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
15. now the fight begins
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 08:20 AM
Jul 2018

Democrats? Hopefully, our leaders will find a way to throw a monkey wrench into the plans of trump, bannon, gorka and the NPA to deport Muslims, cause misery and terror for thousands of asylum seekers and save the life of hundreds, if not thousands, of innocent, unarmed brown people, AA especially, from violent death at the hands of the brownshirts of the NPA. They are roaming the streets of amerika in squad cars, under state authority of badge and gun and as the racist civilian seen as barbeque Becky's, swimming pool Pattie's and Paul, and zimmerman clones. Shit is going to hit the fan.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
28. I think part of the sideshow was to groom Barrett in case something happens to RBG
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 10:05 AM
Jul 2018

Build the name recognition and sound out the potential lines if attack.

world wide wally

(21,742 posts)
25. Is Trump the first criminal ever that is allowed to appoint his own jury?
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 09:24 AM
Jul 2018

...and then have it approved by Congress?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
26. So,.then, were Kavanaugh's stated opinions that
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 09:27 AM
Jul 2018

that presidents cannot constitutionally even be legally investigated, much less indicted, less of a factor than Kennedy's supposed liking for Kavanaugh as his successor?

Note that there's nothing wrong with a justice agreeing to resign if he knows and is satisfied with who his successor will be. But there would be plenty wrong with colluding in obstruction of justice and with putting a president above the law for political or personal purposes.

That may just be my biggest understatement in the past decade.

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