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busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 02:17 PM Jul 2018

W.Post Article states that most Trump Voters were not

ignorant, and from working class... The article raises a lot of questions, hopefully you guys will
respond to it..

However I do have a tag in response to this article.. BIG TIME

IMO every Trump supporter and voter have one thing in common.. They are, everyone of them, absolute racists, there is no way to quantify this fact...but even if a White Republican Male is married to a Black woman it doesn't mean he is not a racist.. because white Republican male and female will tell themselves and perhaps others that their Black Spouses are "one of the good ones"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/06/05/its-time-to-bust-the-myth-most-trump-voters-were-not-working-class/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.6be79e35f788

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unc70

(6,109 posts)
17. This article is over a year old!!
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 04:04 PM
Jul 2018

I put this early in the comments to alert readers. This has been happening a lot recently: OPs posting old articles without any warning that they are not current. Please put something about the age of an article if it is not recent.

mackdaddy

(1,522 posts)
3. Watching Fox Nuze is the one thing I have seen that all Trumpkins have in common.
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 02:23 PM
Jul 2018

Their propaganda seems overwhelming for Trumpers.

Not that they may not be also even unconscious racist, but watching Fox really spikes this kind of thinking into their brain.

Nitram

(22,765 posts)
13. I agree Mackdaddy. Once Fox gets their hooks into someone, they enter a different reality and it
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 02:52 PM
Jul 2018

is very hard to escape. I saw it happen to both my parents, who raised us as progressives, but ended up right wing extremists.

no_hypocrisy

(46,025 posts)
4. I'm still wondering about my BIL's nephew (brother's son).
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 02:24 PM
Jul 2018

Wore a MAGA hat to Thanksgiving dinner. Enrolled and about to enter the military. Wants to defend the country and learn how to kill. Only 17. Super-hyped about Trump. Jewish, middle class, and lives in an affluent neighborhood on Long Island. Not that into sports, getting drunk and getting laid.

If I can figure out the allure of Trump to this kid, I'll let you know. I hope he's not a typical stereotypical example of a Trump demographic.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
14. I think this is common...
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 02:53 PM
Jul 2018

thanks for the brother's son clarification.. I come from a small family in Long Island... I definitely feel that your Nephew might have picked a few things while going through school.. I went through my school years in a typical upscale town on the North Shore1960-1065 ..Believe me , there was a ton of Racism all around me.Even though I hung with the popular crowd, there was plenty of ant-semitism (im a Jew) all around me.

I would bet that your nephew picked up a lot of that crap from his friends..

Freddie

(9,256 posts)
5. It's the sexism
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 02:29 PM
Jul 2018

Doesn't bother them how he treats or talks about women. Or how the whole party is determined to take us back to the 50s.
The Hillary-hate was 95% misogyny. There's quite a few who froth at the mouth at the thought of a smart successful woman, which is why Nancy Pelosi is the bogeyman now.
During the 2016 election one of my husband's co-workers actually said (knowing that DH is a Dem) "I don't want that c*** in the WH."

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
6. Another liberally biased article (also known as 'fact based')
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 02:32 PM
Jul 2018

I've always known that it wasn't the working class that pushed Trump over the top. Just look at the cars in the parking lot at Trump rallies. You never saw so many well-appointed pick-up trucks with "Don't Tread on Me" stickers! There aren't a lot of beat-up, used Camries there.

The real motivation for the majority of Trump voters is - as the OP pointed out, and I agree - is racism. The working class gave Trump voters a plausible excuse for their vote. But, conservatives aren't know for their empathy.

brooklynite

(94,352 posts)
7. That's the kind of attitude that helps lose elections...
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 02:35 PM
Jul 2018
They are, everyone of them, absolute racists


His base voters, maybe. But there was a segment of Obama-Trump voters who don't easily fall into a stereotypical group, and assuming they do means you don't find a way to win them over to perhaps be the margin of victory in Red State House districts.

jcgoldie

(11,612 posts)
9. If they still support him
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 02:41 PM
Jul 2018

They are racists on some level. The simple act of ignoring what he has done makes them racists. It also means you aren't converting them anyway. If they are among the 40-42% who have watched this shitshow for 2 years and say... "yeah that's.. ok..." Then forget them.

brooklynite

(94,352 posts)
11. And you know they're ignoring him how?
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 02:48 PM
Jul 2018

A growing number of House races are shifting towards Dems today. Maybe that's because former Trump voters are frustrated enough with him to vote Democratic to act as a check; and maybe they WON'T vote Democratic if they hear someone yell "racist" at them.

jcgoldie

(11,612 posts)
12. well
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 02:52 PM
Jul 2018

I'm sure you're right on some pragmatic level. But in my limited little personal world my own family sits there and justifies putting kids in cages... why, because they don't really think they are kids. Someone needs to keep calling them racists when thats what they are.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
8. The article is over a year old and not exactly accurate
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 02:40 PM
Jul 2018

Yes, Trump voters in general were above the national average for income. However, they were (on average) quite a bit lower than Mitt Romney voters in terms of household income.

Yes, whites with college degrees voted for Trump, though for white women with college degrees, Trump barely beat Clinton. And, when you add in other races with college degrees, the majority of those with college degrees went for Democrats.

I know in my state of Connecticut, Trump saw big increases in turnout in those white working class towns that have seen better days, which was partially offset by Clinton outperforming Obama in the suburbs (for example, Mitt Romney won by upper middle class suburb by 4% in 2012, but Clinton won it by 11% in 2016)

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