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RandySF

(58,802 posts)
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 02:07 AM Jul 2018

HI-02: Primary debate cancelled after Tulsi Gabbard refuses to appear.

On Monday, July 2, candidates for contested offices in the State of Hawai‘i gathered at Kamehameha Schools’ Kapalama, Oahu campus for Hawaii News Now’s “Super Debate.” Contenders for the offices of Lieutenant Governor, 1st U.S. Congressional District Representative, and Governor took the stage to answer questions, challenge the competition and leave a lasting impression on the audience. It was an informative night for voters, with one glaring omission.

Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard was absent, and there was no debate for the 2nd U.S. Congressional District. The district includes Maui and most of the state, except for urban Honolulu.

In a June 30 Honolulu Star-Advertiser article, Hawaii News Now news director Scott Humber explained that HNN had been trying for more than a month to schedule a debate with 2nd Congressional District candidates, but Gabbard declined to participate. Humber left the invitation open, stating, “It is the right thing to do for the voters.”

This debate dodging has frustrated Gabbard’s opponent in the race for a seat in Congress, Sherry Alu Campagna. “Hawaii’s voters in Congressional District 2 are restricted by mainstream media and organizations from making a fair comparison between Tulsi Gabbard and her only viable contender, Sherry Alu Campagna; a Democrat, an environmental scientist, state commissioner, Native Hawaiian, and parent of a Kamehameha Schools student,” the challenger’s camp wrote in a July 2 statement.

“Furthermore, this subversive form of censorship blocks the democratic process during an election by prohibiting CD2 constituents from holding Tulsi Gabbard accountable for her wishy-washy voting record and alliances with foreign dictators who have committed egregious human rights violations against their people, including Modi, El Sisi, and Assad. Additionally, the exclusion of CD2 from the Super Debate underscores the fact that CD2 voters do not get the attention by politicians and the media that Honolulu does,” the statement said.


https://mauitime.com/news/politics/congresswoman-tulsi-gabbard-dodges-debate/

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HI-02: Primary debate cancelled after Tulsi Gabbard refuses to appear. (Original Post) RandySF Jul 2018 OP
What exactly is Tulsi's issue here? Ninsianna Jul 2018 #1
Yeah, sounds kind of arrogant to me.. and it's not Cha Jul 2018 #3
"the Hawaii Teachers' Union endorsed Sherry. " NCTraveler Jul 2018 #19
YES! I would love it if Cha Jul 2018 #22
Gabbard seems to do well on election day. NCTraveler Jul 2018 #24
Yes, gabbard has a lot of people fooled that's Cha Jul 2018 #25
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ still_one Jul 2018 #26
Mahalo, still_one! Cha Jul 2018 #30
+1. She's all mouth, and very little else. I, for one, hope that Sherry mops up the floor with TG, Tarheel_Dem Jul 2018 #32
Yeah, gabbard is all about hypocrisy, too.. Cha Jul 2018 #33
I want to know why Tulsi is not debating Gothmog Jul 2018 #48
gabbard needs to be hounded until she gives Cha Jul 2018 #49
Agreed Gothmog Jul 2018 #51
Or if she won't.. be held Accountable Cha Jul 2018 #52
Big head RhodeIslandOne Jul 2018 #63
Why is Gabbard afraid to debate Sherry Campagna? Cha Jul 2018 #2
Supportive of Assad? That's a red flag. lostnfound Jul 2018 #12
She was also flirting with joining the Trump (mis-)Administration too I believe Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2018 #17
She's a DINO, from a very conservative politically active family. She's had some weird bettyellen Jul 2018 #29
Yet she's got some convinced she's progressive RhodeIslandOne Jul 2018 #65
I had my doubts lostnfound Jul 2018 #34
seems to me gabbard was critical of hillary for not debating bernie more nt msongs Jul 2018 #4
Oh yeah. Cha Jul 2018 #5
Right? joshcryer Jul 2018 #40
Well, that was different. betsuni Jul 2018 #56
I'm going to Cha Jul 2018 #6
Thanks Cha ! Is there a place where people can donate to Sherry Campagna ? OnDoutside Jul 2018 #8
I see you found NBachers Cha Jul 2018 #11
Here you go. RandySF Jul 2018 #14
Mahalo, RSF.. Kicking! Cha Jul 2018 #16
I just donated - Here's the ActBlue link: NBachers Jul 2018 #7
Ha, I had just posted a question about that ! Thanks, Sherry Campagna should be supported. OnDoutside Jul 2018 #9
Mahalo, NBachers! Cha Jul 2018 #10
Refusing to participate in debates Bettie Jul 2018 #13
Good that her opponent is hitting her on this! mcar Jul 2018 #15
Gabbard declined well in advance. NCTraveler Jul 2018 #18
They did everything they could to accommodate her and she still refused. RandySF Jul 2018 #20
There was zero question that she refused well in advance. NCTraveler Jul 2018 #21
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2018 #23
Fake websites, fake news, now who does that remind me of who pushes that rhetoric, hmm let me think, still_one Jul 2018 #27
That is the Worst Advocate for gabbard. Cha Jul 2018 #36
Agree Cha. It is making excuses for a flawed candidate who is afraid to debate still_one Jul 2018 #37
Yeah, the shite they come up with Cha Jul 2018 #38
Enjoy your stay. n/t rzemanfl Jul 2018 #28
Yeah, I wonder if she did.. after the welcoming Cha Jul 2018 #46
Didn't Tulsi get angry with Obama RandySF Jul 2018 #31
You know you're the Worst advocate for Cha Jul 2018 #35
My guess is there are Putin/Russia ties as well. BannonsLiver Jul 2018 #43
I hadn't thought Cha Jul 2018 #44
You signed up to DU to post this? GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #41
By the calibre of the post.. Cha Jul 2018 #45
Cut the crap BannonsLiver Jul 2018 #42
Why is Tulsi refusing to debate? Gothmog Jul 2018 #39
K&R Jamaal510 Jul 2018 #47
k$r yortsed snacilbuper Jul 2018 #50
A subversive form of censorship... murielm99 Jul 2018 #53
Kicking this. I hope Sherry Al Campagna makes it to Congress. nt Hekate Jul 2018 #54
It would be one of the best Cha Jul 2018 #69
Moar and moar debates used to be good, now even one is a waste of time. 'Kay. betsuni Jul 2018 #55
Yeah, MOAR Debates used to be BETTER when they Cha Jul 2018 #57
cant wait for her to be primaried AlexSFCA Jul 2018 #58
She's being primaried now RandySF Jul 2018 #59
Why would a candidate NOT participate in a debate? What is she afraid of? George II Jul 2018 #60
tulsi gabbard obviously has no confidence Cha Jul 2018 #61
I don't know if it's a matter of her ability to debate or she doesn't want to be confronted.... George II Jul 2018 #64
Right! I say both.. Cha Jul 2018 #66
I wonder if the people who attacked Joe Crowley are good with this? RhodeIslandOne Jul 2018 #62
And he did debate Ocasio-Cortez kcr Jul 2018 #74
k&r ehrnst Jul 2018 #67
Mahalo, ehrnst! Cha Jul 2018 #70
K&R brer cat Jul 2018 #68
Thank You, brer cat! Cha Jul 2018 #72
KnR Mosby Jul 2018 #71
Founder of Women's March Endorses @SherryForHawaii for Congress Cha Jul 2018 #73
Kick...nt SidDithers Jul 2018 #75
You can run, but you can't hide from the people. oasis Jul 2018 #76
K&R lunasun Jul 2018 #77
From my twitter feed Gothmog Aug 2018 #78

Ninsianna

(1,349 posts)
1. What exactly is Tulsi's issue here?
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 02:11 AM
Jul 2018

This is unacceptable behavior, I don't care who us doing or which party, it is inherently anti democratic.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
3. Yeah, sounds kind of arrogant to me.. and it's not
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 02:27 AM
Jul 2018

the first time.. she's never debated any of her opponents. What's she been afraid of?

She has reason to be afraid of Sherry Campagna, though.. the Hawaii Teachers' Union endorsed Sherry.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
25. Yes, gabbard has a lot of people fooled that's
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 04:27 PM
Jul 2018

why she won't debate. But this time the Hawaii's Teacher's Union has called her out on her support of Assad in Syria and endorsed her opponent, Sherry Campagna!

https://www.sherryforhawaii.com/

Thank You, NCT

Tarheel_Dem

(31,233 posts)
32. +1. She's all mouth, and very little else. I, for one, hope that Sherry mops up the floor with TG,
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 05:19 PM
Jul 2018

and I hope the voters in that district don't let Gabbard get away with this little stunt.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
33. Yeah, gabbard is all about hypocrisy, too..
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 05:38 PM
Jul 2018

gabbin at other people to debate when she won't do it.

I know Sherry would mop the floor with gabbard in a debate.. that's why she's denying her the chance.

It hurt Joe Crowley.. it should do the same for gabbard.

Mahalo, Tarheel!

Cha

(297,196 posts)
49. gabbard needs to be hounded until she gives
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 12:38 AM
Jul 2018

up an answer.

People voting for her are NOT getting the whole picture.. Thank Goodness the Hawaii Teacher's Union has endorsed Sherry Campagna and called out Gabbard on supporting war criminal Assad.

This should be in Sherry's campaign Ads.. "Why won't tulsi gabbard Debate with me?" Or something like that.

Mahalo, Goth

Cha

(297,196 posts)
52. Or if she won't.. be held Accountable
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 12:50 AM
Jul 2018

enough to make her sorry that she didn't debate Sherry.

I've never heard of such a thing.. she told others to debate MORE and she won't do it once.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
2. Why is Gabbard afraid to debate Sherry Campagna?
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 02:24 AM
Jul 2018

TG will never debate her opponents.. if this is one of the issues that tripped up Joe Crowley then it should be the same for Gabbard.

What the hell is she thinking?.. she has the signs out but she's too afraid to debate any of her primary opponents?



Challenger criticizes Gabbard for ducking debate

snip//

“Blocking debates from happening through non-participation is the opposite of democracy,” said Sherry Campagna, her main challenger this year in the Aug. 11 Democratic primary, in a news release.

More..
http://www.staradvertiser.com/2018/06/30/hawaii-news/challenger-criticizes-gabbard-for-ducking-debate/?HSA=d7f7e4eb2e4a38e3f0b024cdb2fb790a449af3c6


HI-02: Hawaii Teachers Union Backs Gabbard Opponent For Congress



Harsh Criticism For Gabbard

“She was one of just three representatives, and the only Democrat who refused to condemn Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad’s genocidal chemical attack on his own people. After the attack, Gabbard traveled to Syria to meet with the genocidal dictator al-Assad without permission from the White House or Congress. Her trip was funded by a group with ties to al-Assad supporters and she only covered the expenses herself after the news media reported who paid for her trip.

Then, after al-Assad bombed his people again, Gabbard continued to refuse to admit the attack had occurred. At the same time, she voted to practically ban Syrian refugees from coming into the United States after the Paris terrorist attacks, even though Syrian refugees were not involved in the attacks.”

That's not how we do things.. especially in Hawaii.

When we were discussing this on DU we had people defending her.. all kinds of pretzel logic going on.

But, Thank Goodness the Hawaii Teachers Union is NOT impressed.


Sherry Campagna appears with HSTA members at a May 22 press conference announcing the union’s endorsement of her challenge to U.S. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard in Hawaii’s 2nd District Congressional race.

RSF https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100210730725
Mahalo, RSF

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
17. She was also flirting with joining the Trump (mis-)Administration too I believe
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 03:46 PM
Jul 2018

She is one of the lesser Democrats we have. Didn't she dramatically resign from the DNC to support Bernie in 2016 during the primaries too?

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
29. She's a DINO, from a very conservative politically active family. She's had some weird
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 04:48 PM
Jul 2018

connections and views over the years. I think she’d be GOP but knows she can’t get elected that way.

lostnfound

(16,178 posts)
34. I had my doubts
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 05:43 PM
Jul 2018

Even though I supported Bernie in primary, something about ?Tulsi made me a little uneasy.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
6. I'm going to
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 04:14 AM
Jul 2018

try and keep this kicked so more can see what's going on in Hawaii District 2.

Mahalo, RSF

Cha

(297,196 posts)
11. I see you found NBachers
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 05:13 AM
Jul 2018

handy link to donate to Sherry Campagna, OnDoutside.

Mahalo for donating.. I know she'll appreciate it! She'll be getting money from all over and wondering how that happened when there isn't that much publicity off Island.. I'm thinking.

Gabbard won't even debate her.

Bettie

(16,104 posts)
13. Refusing to participate in debates
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 09:01 AM
Jul 2018

is a deal-breaker for me personally, unless there are extenuating circumstances.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
18. Gabbard declined well in advance.
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 03:50 PM
Jul 2018

Whatever you think of Gabbard is fine but this is a bit over the top.

Mr. Humber doesn't seem to understand it when a woman says no.

Response to RandySF (Original post)

still_one

(92,190 posts)
27. Fake websites, fake news, now who does that remind me of who pushes that rhetoric, hmm let me think,
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 04:37 PM
Jul 2018

someone in the WH I think

Cha

(297,196 posts)
36. That is the Worst Advocate for gabbard.
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 05:53 PM
Jul 2018

gabbard's Never debated anyone while calling others to debate MORE.

The reason she won't debate is that the Hawaii Teachers' Union Endorsed her Opponent, Sherry Campagna. And, one reason is gabbard's support for the war criminal, Assad.

And, all the "Fake" stuff and "Brock".. WTHF?

Mahalo, still_one!

still_one

(92,190 posts)
37. Agree Cha. It is making excuses for a flawed candidate who is afraid to debate
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 05:59 PM
Jul 2018

Last edited Wed Jul 11, 2018, 07:16 PM - Edit history (1)

Cha

(297,196 posts)
38. Yeah, the shite they come up with
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 06:11 PM
Jul 2018

to duck and cover.



Challenger criticizes Gabbard for ducking debate

snip//

“Blocking debates from happening through non-participation is the opposite of democracy,” said Sherry Campagna, her main challenger this year in the Aug. 11 Democratic primary, in a news release.

More..
http://www.staradvertiser.com/2018/06/30/hawaii-news/challenger-criticizes-gabbard-for-ducking-debate/?HSA=d7f7e4eb2e4a38e3f0b024cdb2fb790a449af3c6

Sherry's going to get some good PR from this travesty of gabbard's.. I bet.

RandySF

(58,802 posts)
31. Didn't Tulsi get angry with Obama
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 04:57 PM
Jul 2018

When he denied a visa to an Indian religious figure notorious for human rights abuses?

Cha

(297,196 posts)
35. You know you're the Worst advocate for
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 05:45 PM
Jul 2018

tulsi gabbard?

gabbard is too afraid to debate Sherry Campagna because the Hawaii Teacher's Union Endorsed Sherry. One reason being that gabbard is a supporter for the war criminal Assad.

gabbard has NEVER debated any of her opponents.. so your excuse for her is crap.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
45. By the calibre of the post..
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 09:13 PM
Jul 2018

it sounds like it was an all hands on deck call to arms..

Seriously overplayed their hand.

betsuni

(25,508 posts)
55. Moar and moar debates used to be good, now even one is a waste of time. 'Kay.
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 02:45 AM
Jul 2018

That's sort of ... ahem ... elitist.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
57. Yeah, MOAR Debates used to be BETTER when they
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 03:20 AM
Jul 2018

were demanded for someone else. ahem..

But when it comes to tulsi gabbard she won't even give her Primary Opponent Sherry Campagna ONE DEBATE.

It's very "elitist".. the very Definition of ELITE.

Excellent observation.. Mahalo, betsuni!

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
58. cant wait for her to be primaried
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 03:49 AM
Jul 2018

she is only dem cause gop is not competitive in that district. She is very dim.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
61. tulsi gabbard obviously has no confidence
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 06:25 AM
Jul 2018

in her ability to debate. It's reported that she never would debate her opponents. She sure got on fox sux a lot and complained about President Obama.. which they liked.

This time she has a serious challenger in Sherry Campagna who has been endorsed by the Hawaii Teachers' Union.

One reason they're endorsing Sherry is because they don't like that tulsi gabbard supports Assad in Syria.

I hope Sherry and the Teachers' Union can get the word out about tulsi Not willing to Debate her.

And, gabbard is the one who demanded others Debate More.. not too hypocritical or anything.

Mahalo, George!

George II

(67,782 posts)
64. I don't know if it's a matter of her ability to debate or she doesn't want to be confronted....
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 06:27 AM
Jul 2018

...with some highly questionable policy positions.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
66. Right! I say both..
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 06:35 AM
Jul 2018

she doesn't have the ability to bullshit her way through all her bullshit up there on the stage with the whole state watching as Sherry Confronts her

It's Hawaii.. we don't fall for rightwing gish galloping.. and since she Never would debate in all 6 years.. there must be something in her past she didn't want brought up, either.

kcr

(15,316 posts)
74. And he did debate Ocasio-Cortez
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:22 AM
Jul 2018

Those attacks were, as usual, BS, just like the claim he's running a 3rd party campaign. And of course it's crickets here.

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