There are all these horrified people on my TV.

[madaboutharry]

Andrea Mitchell just called Trump's performance this morning "a disgrace."

Say what you want about Morning Joe, he always has always has excellent guests. There is universal condemnation and horror.

The panel seems crestfallen and in despair.

[Squinch]

1. Glad they got around to reality. After they normalized him and got him elected.

[MojoWrkn]

21. They must share the blame for electing this disgrace!

[Cha]

68. Yeah, but what about Her emails, Andrea?

Thanks, Squinch.

[Hassler]

101. +1

[imanamerican63]

2. But yesterday, they were praising Trump & his pick for the replacement for Kennedy!

[babylonsister]

3. I must have missed that; I can't remember the last time they praised that moron. nt

[PearliePoo2]

5. I watched yesterday's show and I didn't see or hear any praising of trump.

[imanamerican63]

7. They said that Trump made a wise choice.

Maybe it wasn't a full blown praise? But they sway the way the wind blows!

[Honeycombe8]

12. I listened to the podcast and didn't hear praise.

If Joe thinks the choice was good, compared to what he COULD have picked, then he should say so, of course. Joe is a conservative. He wants a conservative justice. I didn't hear Mika express an opinion at all about it.

No one in the world is going to be lockstep with your opinions 100% of the time. If they say they are, they are lying. That's what Hannity does, after all. As Trump's mouthpiece, he never takes a position that is contrary to Trump's. That's how you know he's fake.

If you don't want to hear what establishment conservatives think or have to say, then don't watch a show hosted by one. Makes no sense to watch it, and then complain about what he is. You know that, going in.

[USALiberal]

93. Link please. nt

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

29. Me either, but, sometimes we hear nuances. No biggie. Just a post.

[Cosmocat]

17. YEP

They are the enemy ...

[superpatriotman]

4. David ignatius:

"Are we witnessing the destruction of NATO?"

[aeromanKC]

6. Putin: Mission Accomplished

Putin's investment in puppet Baby Trump is paying off in spades.

[bdamomma]

31. that is what Putin wants

and he has his puppet doing it. Fuck this must stop.

Malcolm Nance was just on Stephanie Miller and he said this is no joke. We need to mobilize. Big time. He even said he would die for his country...............sigh.

[WhiteTara]

8. Too bad Dead Intern Joe worked so

hard to put that piece of pus into our WH

[whathehell]

9. Joe Scarborough wasn't even in town when his intern died

No evidence of his involvement...Not a fan of his, but I think we may need to retire that meme.

[Cosmocat]

19. OK

And, OJ was in Chicago ...

And, Sandusky didn't quit because he was forced out ...

And, MJ isn't a philandering POS with obvious control and anger issues ...

Every aspect of this story reeks - starting with her cracking her skull off her own desk after passing out.

[whathehell]

20. Wrong on the facts..

OJ is documented as being in LA at the time of the murder -- Try again.

[WhiteTara]

27. cosmocat forgot the

[whathehell]

33. Um, you too.

[WhiteTara]

26. and I was born on the moon.

maybe you'd like to revisit that period of time. Google will tell you all about it.

[whathehell]

30. Lol..It's starting to sound like it..

Google?...Maybe you should provide a link or forget it.

[WhiteTara]

35. whatthehell

[whathehell]

36. That what I say.

[WhiteTara]

38. and I say, Bless your heart, you are so precious.

I'm from the south, and that's what we say here when people are offensive.

[whathehell]

39. ..and I say "back at you" honey!

That's what Progress people say.

[WhiteTara]

41. what's a Progress person?

is that progressive? Or you just progress from one thing to another?

It's way to early in my day for a bitchy little fight with you. Have a good day.

[whathehell]

46. Figure it out..

and before you go, you might just want to recall who started the bitchy little fight.

[WhiteTara]

50. oh right. I made that first snarky comment

I had to just reread that beginning part where you jumped in. What the hell, WTH. I don't even know you and it doesn't look like I want to, either.

[whathehell]

52. Bah bye Tara..

and may you nevah be hungry again.

[WhiteTara]

53. and may you have a more fortunate rebirth.

[whathehell]

54. Yes, one in which the South

never rose the Frst time, perhaps. .

[WhiteTara]

60. You know,

my family has been in this country since 1624. My grandfather (7th generation) signed the Declaration of Independence and my uncle (7th generation) wrote the preamble to the Constitution and organized the entire document. On the other side, my family is peppered with diplomats and a supreme court justice.

We moved to the south about 9 years ago and found a beautiful spot in the Boston Mountain range. I've learned a lot about the people from the south by living here. Some of their colloquialisms are very wonderful. I especially love the Bless your heart. If you're from the Bronx you can probably interpret the meaning. Followed by Precious adds that little extra zing of Bronx interpretation also.

But again, while I don't know you, you seem to like to follow me around.

[whathehell]

61. Lol

You think I'm following YOU around?

Bless your heart,Tara, but are you familiar with the concept of "projection"?

I ask because, far from "following" you, I''ve been trying to say "goodbye" for some time now!

[WhiteTara]

63. I'll make it easy

[Cha]

69. SMH..

[WhiteTara]

83. nice to see you!

[Cha]

84. Nice to

see You, too.. Southern Woman!

[WhiteTara]

86. In truth, my dear, I've only been here 9 years and

they still consider me a "damn foreigner." But I sure do like some of their crazy ways; others not so much.

My daddy was in the army and I got to see a bit of the world, enough to know that we are all humans with different language. I love NYC just because I love to walk down the street and hear so many different languages; it's musical in its own right! And that set up the gypsy in my soul and I've lived lots of places. It seems fitting that I would be living in the oldest mountain range in the world (no kidding) to make my stand. I'm so glad you're on the planet with me!

[Cha]

90. Yeah, it takes awhile to get to know the

lay of the land and for the locals to get to know you(in my case, anyway). I've lived a lot of different places, too. East Coast, West Coast, Rocky Mountains, South, and North. I lived in the Blue Ridge Mountains, also! Now in Hawaii and this time for 8 years.. but in a new town just almost for a year. So, once again I'm getting ESTABLISHED!

I too love hearing all the different languages and accents.. we get a lot of that over here.. also with visitors on the bus.. I always ask them where they're from and usually strike up a conversation. Fun!

How sweet.. I'm glad to be on the Planet with you, White Tara!

[sheshe2]

95. Brava.

That was sweet.

I don't think I ever enjoyed a sub thread more.

You are class and sass, WhiteTara.

[WhiteTara]

96. I am following your example

I think you are magnificent and I strive to be as brave as you.

to you

[sheshe2]

97. No need for you to strive.

You are already there. Plus you made me laugh. I am saying full out belly laughs. It was fun to watch/read.

We are one woman.

I thank you, WhiteTara.

This song inspires me and gives me hope.

[WhiteTara]

98. That gave me cold chills!

Yes, if there is salvation in the world, it will be because of women.

And I am so glad I can make you laugh. My humor is all gallows style, your's must be too!

[sheshe2]

99. That song is us.

It is the men that stand with us. Women are the future, count on it. We were almost there. Almost, yet dark forces snatched it away from us. Fugg them.

We are the ones that birthed a nation. We nurture and love. We have a long, long history of resisting and we persist. We are going to reclaim our time. Fact is, it is up to us now.

We shall shine.

[sheshe2]

100. PS....

Your gallows humor suits me well.

[Trust Buster]

10. Yes, let's viciously attack someone who has been very outspoken against Don the Con.

That’s how we’ll wing the day.

[WhiteTara]

23. they're how we got this pos

but hey, defend that asshole, I don't care.

[Trust Buster]

62. The far right attacks anyone who does not agree with them 100 % of the time.

That is what extremism looks like. It is a losing formula IMO.

[Honeycombe8]

13. That's a false statement.

Joe did not work to get Trump elected. He supported Jeb Bush. MJ did a lot to expose Trump's lies in 2016.

[FSogol]

15. Not a false statement: Joe and Mika promoted Trump from the start

From Huffpost back in July 2017:

In late 2015 and 2016, when Trump’s campaign was gaining momentum, they (Joe and Mika) defended him against his critics and offered him advice. For example, at an event at the 92nd Street Y in New York in November 2015,

Scarborough proudly recounted how he frequently called Trump to offer political guidance.

Returning the bromance favor, in January 2016 Trump talked about Scarborough with Boston talk radio host Howie Carr. “He’s a great guy, and he has a great show ... and we have a lot of fun,” Trump said. After Trump won the New Hampshire primary in February 2016, Trump appeared on “Morning Joe” and told the co-hosts: “You guys have been supporters, and I really appreciate it.”

A few days later, CNN reported that MSNBC officials were concerned about “Scarborough’s friendship with Trump and his increasingly favorable coverage of the candidate.” According to CNN, MSNBC insiders called Scarborough’s admiration for Trump “over the top” and “unseemly.” The Washington Post observed that Trump received “a tremendous degree of warmth from the show,” and that his appearances on the show, in person and over the phone, often felt like “a cozy social club.”

That coziness was caught on tape during an MSNBC town hall with Trump in New York that Scarborough and Brzezinski hosted in February 2016. An unaired clip of banter between Brzezinski and Trump in-between segments revealed the two of them colluding about what questions she’d ask him. “Nothing too hard, Mika,” Trump says. “OK,” she responded.

Even after Trump’s most disgusting and troublesome traits were revealed to the entire country throughout the campaign – his abuse of women, his attacks on Latinos, immigrants, Muslims, and people with disabilities, his profound ignorance of basic issues and government policy, and the corruption and scandals surrounding Trump University and the Trump foundation – Scarborough (and to a lesser extent Brzezinski) continued to lend Trump their support.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/joe-and-mika-owe-america-an-apology_us_5957408be4b0c85b96c6622a

[WhiteTara]

24. thank you

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

37. I was a little disturbed by the coverage they allowed as well...

especially for msnbcs morning block. It's all whiskey under the bridge now. At least they've changed their tune. I admire Mika on some levels for the life she's lived and her Dad. Nobody is perfect. Things get ouchy in here and D's start ripping each other apart, doesn't seem like it's kosher for any of us. People have a right to say things. Once corrected(?) then let it go. If you can't...then maybe a walk outside or go visit your parents or something. Not the end of the world.
the DU police can get a bit over zealous, but, we are all in utter distress w this fucker in office. Go easy on each other eh?
This is a general statement...not directed wholely at you White. Have a good one.

[WhiteTara]

40. Zbeignew Brezenski is the reason we are in Afghanistan today.

(Carter's presidency) He decided to have a proxy war with Russia and it bankrupted their nation. We are now in an endless conflict.

I have no respect for either of those two. And yes, it's very testy around here.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

42. You can't choose your parents.

take care of yourself today. it's getting shitty all around.

[WhiteTara]

45. I thought you said you admired Zbeginew

but you are so right, it's rough out here. The spiral is turning tighter and tighter and it's going to be a shitty rest of the decade.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

47. I may have. If I did it was my mistake.

I saw him before he died on tv and I'd forgotten the Carter years. They were good times but my gad..the repubs were so awful...even so long ago.

[WhiteTara]

51. yeah. and Nixon was before him was so awful

[Honeycombe8]

72. Her father was a respected official...and a reliable Democrat. As is Mika. She never supported Trump

for President. She supported the Dem candidate,which was Hillary after the primary. She NEVER supported Trump fr President.

There's a reason that Trump started trashing them in tweets. Because they were calling him out for what he is, before the other media did.

Amazing how people will just make stuff up because they don't like a show.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

75. I appreciate that clarification. I was going by my memory, and it's far from perfect.

I like what you say and it coincided w my original thought. Ty.

[WhiteTara]

85. Here's a bit of info

https://www.counterpunch.org/1998/01/15/how-jimmy-carter-and-i-started-the-mujahideen/

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/04/the-myth-of-american-exceptionalism-in-afghanistan.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone

https://www.aljazeera.com/archive/2003/04/2008410113842420760.html

http://hangthebankers.com/zbigniew-brzezinski-dead/

If you still think he was respected after reading the above links, okay.

[Honeycombe8]

87. I'm not going to read all that, or read "hangthebankers"(seriously?) illegitimate "news" sources...

for the purpose of trashing someone.

Give me a legitimate news article, from CNN, Washington Post, NYT, etc. Certainly not al jazeera or paste magazine. LOL.

Brzezinski served as Carter's principal foreign policy adviser during the 1976 campaign and as national security adviser from 1977-1981. In his role, he was involved in brokering the Camp David Accords, the signing of the SALT II treaty and wrestling with Iran's transition from a US ally to an anti-Western Islamic republic.

Carter described Brzezinski as brilliant, dedicated, and loyal.
***

Brzezinski, a U.S. international relations scholar, studied at McGill University in Montreal and earned a doctorate degree in political science at Harvard University.

He also served as foreign affairs adviser to Presidents John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson.

In 1981, Brzezinski was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom for his role in the normalization of US-China relations and his contributions to the country's human rights and national security policies.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/26/politics/zbigniew-brzezinski-dead/index.html

[WhiteTara]

88. how about wikepedia?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone
It's short.

BTW Henry Kissinger has a great bio too. It doesn't mean he wasn't a war criminal.

[Honeycombe8]

71. I think that's why people keep posting false things about them. They don't like them.

So they post foolish things like "Mika promoted Trump for President." Seriously? She's a Democrat and was a Hillary supporter.

Anyone who doesn't know that Joe supported Jeb Bush, doesn't know much.

There is a reason that Trump trashed them all the time, and that he was banned from the MJ show. Because they didn't support him, and they lead the charge in calling him out, before other media did. That upsets people who don't like them.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

76. Joe needs to tone it down.

Advice from a newcomer dem isn't exactly my cuppa. He has guests on and they play w their phones...fall asleep...roll their eyes etc...bc he just won't shut up. Morning Joe...refers to coffee...not you joe.

[Honeycombe8]

79. Morning Joe refers to Joe Scarborough, w/a play on the term Morning Joe coffee reference.

Because Joe was, at that time anyway, always drinking a big Starbucks coffee on the show. I remember the show before it was called that, and when they came up with that. "Joe" because that was Scarborough's name. It means both.

They're running out of things to talk about. Joe even said something to Mika recently, when she didn't want them to talk about the World Cup. He said "well we can't always be talking about trench coats & dark weather" or something like that, referencing the constant complaints about Trump.

They have all the normal guests on that the other MSNBC shows have. Schumer, Schiff, Painter, etc. Plus the MSNBC paid pundits.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

80. When I turn it on...

it refers to coffee. Thanks though. I can do that bc I pay my wifi bill.

[Honeycombe8]

82. LOL.

yeah, it's a play on words. Joe Scarborough in the morning, drinking his customary cup 'o Jo. I thought it was clever.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

78. I looked it up...

Bush is why we are in Afghanistan today. Just going on the record w that.

[happy feet]

28. YUP

+1

[Honeycombe8]

73. Nope. Mika is a Democrat. Never supported Trump for Prez. Neither did Joe...

except he gave it a try for a short while after he won the primary. But that didn't last long. Trump was soon banned from the MJ show.

There's a reason that Trump trashed them on twitter...remember the famous trashing about Mika's facelift? Because they did not support him.

[Honeycombe8]

66. No, they did not.That is false. I watched it almost every day.

I know what I'm talking about. Joe was a Jeb Bush supporter from the start. Mika was, and always will be, a moderate Democrat, and supported whoever the Dem candidate was going to be,and in particular, Hillary, when she won the primary.

Anyone who says different isn't speaking the truth and has some sort of agenda.

Of course, once Trump won the primary, Joe got on board for a while, since that's his party. But Joe soon jumped off board.

There is a reason that Trump was banned from the MJ Show at some point, and the reason why Trump lashed out at them in 2017, when he accused Mika of having a bleeding facelift, when he saw them somewhere. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40438214

Joe did critique his performances at debates, giving praise where he thought warranted, and criticism...this was a critique. Critiques should be objective.

At some point Joe realized that Jeb was turning in a dismal performance, and would not win the primary.

I can only wonder how anyone does not know that Mika is a Democrat. Her father is the famous Brzsinsky, a Democrat, after all (who was on the show a few times). And not to know that Joe was a supporter of Jeb's. Jeb was carrying the water for the establishment Republicans, which what Joe is. By 2016, the MJ Show & Trumps were on the outs.

[Honeycombe8]

70. FALSE. How much does someone know, if he doesn't know MIKA IS A DEMOCRAT

Mika supported Hillary Clinton, or whoever the Dem candidate would be. Joe supported JEB BUSH...the establishment candidate. Because Joe was establishment.

[brush]

58. Ahhh...we lived thru it too. MJ gave trump tons of free air time...

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and fawned over him whenever he called in live to their show so please stop trying to rewrite history.

Many of us know exactly what happened.

It's a good thing they've turned against him but if they hadn't given him so much free, positive, gushing publicity, along with much of the rest of the MSM, the orange pos wouldn't be in the presidency.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

77. So...there's no room for them bc they changed their minds?

I remember the free coverage from EVERY station. Lets not get too selective. Point is they aren't anymore.

[brush]

91. Re-read my post. I said exactly what you said.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

92. Been a long day. I didnt mean to step on the intent

I missed it.

[USALiberal]

94. Quit using that name, makes you and the DU look idiotic.

[lpbk2713]

11. You know he's really gone downhill when he's lost Andrea.

That's gonna leave a mark.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

81. I thought i was the only one who noticed.

Anderea Mitchell...fickle as the day is long. looks half sedated herself most days. Points for trying though Andrea....if that's the absolute best you can do.

[Upthevibe]

14. I won't forget how horrible Andrea Mitchell

Was to Hillary...

[Eyeball_Kid]

22. IMO, Mitchell has no credibility.

She was relentless when smearing HRC. It was her role to attack Clinton from behind. By default, she backed Trumpy. No, she did not practice ethical journalism. She sniped. Daily.

[Nitram]

16. They should be crestfallen and in despair. They were cheerleaders for Trump leading up to his

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election. They loved the attention. Trump was their buddy.

[AwakeAtLast]

64. +1000! n/t

[snowybirdie]

18. Finally got a copy

of Fire and Fury by Wolfe at the library. Joe and Mika were strong enablers of tRump in the early days and gave him lots of air time and encouragement. Wasn't til he embarrassed Mika about her facelift that they turned on him. But by then it was too late. They've been against him ever since. They reap what they sowed methinks.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

43. I heard the whole book on youtube a day after it came out.

Nobody talks about it anymore. But then, we've had books by Corn etc. w fresh revelations that freeze you in your tracks....(my eyeballs had to be thawed a few times for each of the tomes.)

[bdamomma]

25. sorry for my obscenities

but the fucking media needs to call him out NOW. tRump is a treasonous POS. Doing Putin's work.

[Zoonart]

32. They will call him out the minute they cease to find him entertaining.

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We don't have a "news" media we have "infotainment". i thought they would stop shining his shit after those journalists were gunned down, but that incident of gun violence went into the memory hole faster than any in recent history.

Truth is that the corporations that own the 24hr news networks are all-in with Trump.

[The Genealogist]

48. Your observation resonates with me

What we see instead of news is infotainment. The truth gets ignored and stretched to craft stories that will draw viewers to see sponsors ads and make money for the company. This is dangerous for democracy.

[CrispyQ]

56. "The media is only as liberal as the conservative corporations that own it."

A bumper sticker I saw once.

MSNBC has discovered there is a liberal niche to make money from, but the likes of Maddow/Reid/Melber/Hayes will never go mainstream & now the local stations are being bought up by Sinclair. If you're working 2-3 jobs & the only news you can catch is the 5 or 10 o'clock news, you're getting skewed info.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

44. Let it fly momma.

Get it off your chest sister. Couldn't agree more.

[MontanaMama]

34. These media asshats can look in the mirror

and thank themselves for the horror they wrought on this nation. They need to get the fuck over themselves and help us mobilize to defeat this autocratic threat. Malcolm Nance just said moments ago that if Dems don’t take back the House this November that we are DONE. Done as in America will not survive. Meanwhile the clowns in most of the MSM are busy shaking their heads.

[Trumpocalypse]

49. Well said!!!

Most of these very same people were were outraged that Hillary Clinton used a personal email despite it being well known for years that many high ranking officials used personal email because the official government system was crap. Mitchell herself routinely parroted Trump campaign talking points against Clinton in the fall of 16..

[sarcasmo]

55. Andrea "Emails" Mitchell helped elect Trump.

[Garrett78]

57. Well, Andrea, perhaps you shouldn't have gone out of your way to hurt Clinton...

...every time you were on TV.

[hatrack]

59. "BUT HER EMAILS!!!!" - Right, Andrea?

Remember?

[lame54]

65. But still no responsibility taken

[Cha]

67. Thanks Andrea.. But Her Emails.

[0rganism]

74. plenty of those horrified people gave Trump the free media he needed in 2016

there's an awful lot of crow left on the dinner plate, time for some of the bobble-heads to bring out their silverware

[Blue_Tires]

89. Wow... It's almost like Donald Trump is

completely 100% unqualified and incapable of serving as POTUS? I mean, who could have guessed?

[Kablooie]

102. You're just watching the wrong channel.

On Fox he's the glory of America and the greatest hero in the history of mankind.
He's being tough with NATO and telling them things that should have been said years ago.
He's bravely putting them on notice! Wonderful!

They are so proud to lick his behind clean.