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Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 04:55 PM Jul 2018

This 1945 documentary, though US propaganda, is telling many truths in many ways.

Not that Germany is or will rise again as a authoritarian dictatorship. But what we could be facing here if something drastic is not done. Note the rise of the Alt Right and the Atomwaffen.
We have a narcissistic maniac who is surrounded and supported by cowardly Yes Men. A DOJ head that was just confirmed who has never prosecuted a case and represented a Russian bank and could potentially be shut down the Mueller investigation.
I cannot help but feel a foreboding nightmare of violence and blood in our streets. To think we are immune and somehow comfortable in our US skins flies in the face of human history.
Anyone who thinks I'm being an alarmist please bookmark my post and check back in 6 months. If I'm wrong, which I desperately hope I am, call me out and I will gladly recede back into my comfortable cocoon called The American Dream.

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This 1945 documentary, though US propaganda, is telling many truths in many ways. (Original Post) Lint Head Jul 2018 OP
I can't agree with your first sentence unfortunately Ezior Jul 2018 #1
"it's not even close to Nazi Germany yet" dixiegrrrrl Jul 2018 #2
Nothing in history has ever happened on the same time line as everything else. That is a canard. Lint Head Jul 2018 #4
Of course anything can happen. There are exceptions to every rule. Lint Head Jul 2018 #3

Ezior

(505 posts)
1. I can't agree with your first sentence unfortunately
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 05:48 PM
Jul 2018

"Not that Germany is or will rise again as a authoritarian dictatorship" – you never know. It *can* happen here (Germany), again. I'm pretty sure it can happen anywhere.

The US is on a dangerous path, but it's not even close to Nazi Germany yet. I hope in 6 months the situation is relaxed a bit because there's a Dem majority in the house and possibly the senate. Just make sure every sane person is registered to vote & actually votes on election day. Let's hope there are enough sane US citizens left! I have some trust in that, not everyone watches Fox News 24/7 after all.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
2. "it's not even close to Nazi Germany yet"
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 07:35 PM
Jul 2018

For some reason, people tend to measure Nazi Germany by what happened after the concentration camps were built and Germany marched on Poland.
Most people are not aware of how little time it took Hitler to control Germany.

He became chancellor of Germany on January 30, 1933,

Feb. 1933:
Just 30 days later: the REICHSTAG (GERMAN PARLIAMENT) BUILDING was destroyed by fire.
Hitler called it a terrorist attack, in modern terms. ( It is recognized today as a false flag operation)
He used the incident to assume extraordinary powers in Germany.
Hitler convinced the German president, Paul von Hindenburg, to declare a state of emergency.
Constitutionally protected personal freedoms were suspended.
This meant NO freedom of press, speech, and assembly. Individuals lost the right to privacy, which meant that officials could read people's mail, listen in on telephone conversations, and search private homes without a warrant. ( sound familiar??)

March 5, 1933
Germany held its parliamentary election, and the Nazi party itself was defeated, tho they did get 45% of the vote.
But Hitler was still Chancellor.
He introduced a bill, called the "Enabling Act," that gave his government the power to decree laws without submitting them to a vote in the German parliament for the next 4 years.
( Think in terms of Executive Orders.)
Trade unions are shut down.
He creates the SA, called Storm troopers, to enforce laws and intimidate citizens, ( ICE, anyone?)
The SS became, after 1934, the private army of the Nazi party.


July 14, 1933
All political parties are dissolved except for the Nazi Party.
Non-Nazis are pressured to join the Nazi party, many citizens do, because they cannot get jobs otherwise.
Political opponents and others who refused to obey laws and policies of the Nazi regime, are arrested and some killed.

by now most Germans are all too aware of his control and the dangers of confronting it, because the SS will arrest them.

In August of 1934, the President of Germany dies. Hitler then takes control of the Government, the entire country.

It essentially took him only 6 months to kill democracy in Germany.


https://www.ushmm.org/outreach/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007671
and more detail here:
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Adolf-Hitler/Rise-to-power




Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
4. Nothing in history has ever happened on the same time line as everything else. That is a canard.
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 09:15 PM
Jul 2018

Fascism is the point and we are moving closer to just one incident changing things. In 1933 through 1934 there was no internet and information was not disseminated in the flash of a keystroke. You may disagree but I think it is obvious that the election was stolen by Russia for Trump. Also 'boiling the frog' slowly is archaic.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
3. Of course anything can happen. There are exceptions to every rule.
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 09:10 PM
Jul 2018

We are closer than you think. If you watch the video it demonstrates how people just did their thing while saying, 'It can't happen here.'

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