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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"Why does Trump hate Germany?"
https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-angela-merkel-germany-nato-why-germany-trumps-strange-fixation-vexes-experts/---------------------
That is fairly easy to answer: Germany is everything Trump dislikes in a country.
- Germany is clumsy and slow. Everything is bogged down with regulations and complicated multilateral negotiations, from Germany's 6-party-parliament to its financial regulations to its unions.
- Germany has no glamour. Sure Germany has its share of skyscrapers and international celebrities and artists, but where are the decadent parties with yachts and models?
- Germany is famous for its engineers and scientists. Jobs where almost anyone can rise to a good career. That doesn't play well with Trump's classist mindset.
- Germany has a leadership-role in the EU and yet refuses that power because they don't want all the pressure and responsibility. Also, the EU is a complicated network of political and economic connections and Trump cannot handle this.
- Germany is friendly to immigrants.
- And worst of all: Germany is run by an old woman.
Compare that to Russia:
- Russia is run by an authoritarian strongman, for the simple reason that all of his competitors are either nutjobs from the political fringe, fame-hungry celebrities, or have successfully been branded as unreliable troublemakers.
- As such, Russia acts fast and decisive, because there is no need for internal deliberations.
- Russia has an imperial mindset. From the Czars, to the Soviet Union, to Putin, the Russians have always felt a connection to Russia as an empire. (The chaos of the post Cold War era has soured democracy's image in Russia.) And Trump shares that imperial mindset, where he's not one among equals, but one at the top.
- Russia is famous for its billionaires and vulgar dictator-chic and its parties and beautiful women.
- Russia is ethnically diverse, but basically all of these ethnicities are white people, so that's fine.
- And best of all: Russia is run by a man who likes to show off his virility.
syringis
(5,101 posts)Do not forget his grandpa who was deported...
Not exactly Germany at this time, but does that make a difference for the Great Ignoranus ?
Cha
(297,190 posts)who was Deported..
Well that changes Everything!
Mahalo, syringis.. I'll have to edit my post other post on this thread.
Cha
(297,190 posts)Aren't Fraud's ancestors from Germany? Like his Drumpfuck's father?
ETA~ It was his grandfather Drumpf who was Deported.. Fraud's carrying a Grudge
Mahalo, syringis!
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)That's where Trump's ancestors come from.
And the whole state basically looks like that. Humble, rural... forests, hills, villages, agriculture, wine... It's very nice there. The cities and towns separated from each other by endless forests for hiking.
But I guess it's not flashy enough for Trump. He stole a british coat-of-arms and the truth is that his ancestors are from a 1000-people village in the middle of nowhere.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)was a pimp, who opened a brothel in Canada. So using and discarding women runs in the tRump family.
JI7
(89,248 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,370 posts)Red Don lacks the intellectual capacity to process the other things you mentioned. If he knows Germany has six parties Ill eat my hat.
CozyMystery
(652 posts)My mom is 83. She has PTSD from being a kid in WW2 Germany, and from living in the former East Germany.
She will not speak of the trauma. A decade ago, the nightmares got to be too much. She asked me if I could help her figure out why she dreams of a bear attacking her every night. I said bear = Russia. The nightmares stopped.
It was incredibly mean for Trump to say what he did about Russia to Dr. Merkel.
I have a huge bias against Russia. Not the people. The government. And I always will have because I like it that way.
LisaM
(27,806 posts)How is it that she is described as an old woman, while Putin is referred to as virile??
kag
(4,079 posts)Okay, well, not "wondered" but I did fume about it.
Women are "old" when they cease being attractive to lecherous males. Men are "old" when lecherous males don't feel threatened by them.
RVN VET71
(2,690 posts)Maybe Trump is the last noisy vestige of the old mind set. Or maybe he will be seen as just a reinvigoration of it?
rainin
(3,011 posts)Stating the obvious, not sure why people got to dance around and try to do gymnastics to come up with other rationales.
hlthe2b
(102,236 posts)disgraceful. TRULY
Arkansas Granny
(31,515 posts)I think this has a lot to do with his attitude. His ego won't allow him to see a woman as an equal as far as political power and/or intellect. He thinks it makes him look weak.
hlthe2b
(102,236 posts)without quotation marks. It is offensive and enables such misogynistic attitudes.
Not meaning to be rude to you Arkansas Granny, as I think I know what you meant, but it is distressing to see Duers feed into this.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)Fell out of a guard tower.
betsuni
(25,481 posts)babylonsister
(171,059 posts)Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)If Germany's Chancellor was a douchebag who reminded Trump of his father, he would be trying to win his love too, just as he's doing with Putin and Kim Jong-un.
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)This prick is vindictive and is using the office to punish anyone who ever crossed him.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)sandensea
(21,627 posts)They're also yooge donors to international aid and relief - another Cheeto pet peeve.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)Germany whupped the dookey out Russia in WW2,,,!
DFW
(54,369 posts)Putin tells Trump what he wants to hear, lies, and manipulates Trump like a puppet. Putin will stab Trump (and us) in the back the second it's convenient.
Trump prefers Putin's style. The scary part is that a third of America does, too.
UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)The King of Prussia
(737 posts)And Germany isn't?
My suspicion is that the problem the tiny orange one has with German women, is that any German ladies he has ever encountered have made it clear that they wouldn't touch his sweaty form with a ten-foot barge pole.
BeyondGeography
(39,370 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)I think that is also why he's so obsessed with immigrants.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)His grandfather was, and also putin wants this done to hurt our allies with now. trump and putin are terrorists, and anti Democracy promoters, Germany isn't. They and other allies should remove trump from any more meetings , and reject our membership in anything by sending the republican leaders a heads up , stop him now or they'll not be our ally anymore, because trump sure as hell isn't there's, and he'll bypass Congress soon to stop them also.
ProfessorPlum
(11,256 posts)the answer is as Plissken says in #16 - he hates Germany because Putin told him to destroy NATO.
spanone
(135,830 posts)bdamomma
(63,845 posts)women with power. period