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There is a growing incivility in the US. It is particularly noticeable with more an more racist mayhem in the news. The growing harassment of minorities should be alarming. Trump and the GOP are more hysterical and brazen in their openness about quashing the investigation. And they are more strident and aggressive about defending criminals, Nazis, and unfit candidates running in November. And they are more ardent about inciting discord and outright hatred.
I wonder if we will enter the elections peacefully. We could be facing a particularly tumultuous and bitter election cycle in November. One can only imagine the ads against Democrats. And we can only imagine the more vitriolic rhetoric from Trump moving forward.
The GOP is making clear it plans to be the only legal party in the US.
Farmgirl1961
(1,493 posts)dalton99a
(81,073 posts)There is no other option
Girard442
(6,059 posts)...to discourage any attempts at voter intimidation. Near, meaning safely outside of the legally mandated radius. Violence is not an option, but it would be good if any Deplorable hanging around in his rolling coal 4WD with rifle racks was surrounded by a sea of pussy hats.
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FSogol
(45,360 posts)Girard442
(6,059 posts)...wouldn't be a problem. A sea of pussy hats isn't intimidation unless they decide to have a go at Deppy's 4WD with baseball bats and I think that would be a really bad idea. To show up to make a statement and to be heavily outnumbered by the other side isn't being intimidated -- it's being fed a reality sandwich.
FakeNoose
(32,356 posts)The civic unrest that's happening now is child's play compared to that.
However we are seeing severe and frightening threats to our democracy now that have no counterpart to those times of the late 60's and early 70's. It's the hidden undermining activities that could literally change the course of our history. We must act to stop what the GOP is trying to do and what they already have done.
We have to vote these fuckers out in November. Emasculate Trump as soon as possible, impeach him if we can. Get the good guys back in office and make new laws so this crap NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN!
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)Hell, thing is, we can't even get people to vote in their own best interests - if they bother to vote at all.
FakeNoose
(32,356 posts)It's scary how people are so stupid now. What happened?
This can't all be blamed on Faux News either. People were already stupid before they started broadcasting.
BumRushDaShow
(127,314 posts)IMHO, not "growing". It's always been there. What is different is not only is it being documented more and more by cell phone, BUT (and most importantly - at least for the moment) it is being REPORTED by the "mainstream media". Before that, it was considered just a bunch of "isolated incidents" posted on social media (which is where people are finding it), which the media would not have considered "newsworthy".
I would agree there is quite a bit of stress out there but as a note, IMHO, the effects of this trade war may have some impact on this upcoming election. I.e., it might not mean GOPers switching parties but it's possible that some affected first-time voter GOPers may just sit home stewing.
genxlib
(5,507 posts)As Will Smith said "Racism Is Not Getting Worse, It's Getting Filmed"
spanone
(135,636 posts)3Hotdogs
(12,210 posts)This was the time of the Know Nothing Party. There was violence. Look up "Plug Uglies." The undesirables were Germans fleeing political chaos, then followed by Irish after the famine.
People were similarly concerned about the stability of our country.
We survived.
genxlib
(5,507 posts)Considering that it took a Civil War with several hundred thousands of deaths to survive.
3Hotdogs
(12,210 posts)It was 'Mericans of that era trying to Make America Great Again.
genxlib
(5,507 posts)But the OP was not just about that either. While the racism they reference would include the anti-immigrant BS, it is not limited to it.
Forgive me if I leaped to the wrong conclusion but I was reacting more to description of unrest in the Country and the incivility to which the OP refers. Bringing up the mid 1800's just gives me nightmares.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)taken its departure from our Land, and the want of disposition to do justice is the source of the national embarrassments."
Washington's very understated way of expressing his great distress to John Jay, who also feared our new confederation of states was destroying itself from within from lack of virtue.
We really were in much worse shape then, especially those "national embarrassments" by the dozens in every state that lead even to armed insurrections and collapse of currencies. We lack virtue and justice now, of course, but then we had almost no workable national systems that would have to be destroyed to bring us down. They also feared England was doing then what Russia is now.
Their response was call the first constitutional convention to create them.