When is Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) up for re-election??

[dixiegrrrrl]

He voted to confirm Brian Benczkowski to be an assistant AG.
every other Dem. voted no..

[NCTraveler]

1. 2018.

Hope he kicks ass.

[Cattledog]

2. This November.

[SHRED]

3. I hope he wins

Remember...This is West Virginia.

[OliverQ]

4. Yes, but he did just agree to confirm a guy who will shut down Mueller.

Voting no would not have hurt his chances in November. His constituents likely have no idea who that guy is.

[BigmanPigman]

5. Ditto!

[Garrett78]

12. Agreed. I think the argument that Manchin had to vote that way is bunk.

[alwaysinasnit]

6. His votes line up with tRump's position 60% of the time

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/?ex_cid=rrpromo

[True Dough]

7. Manchin often has to walk a fine line

but it's hard not to believe he doesn't cross that line a little too regularly...

[zipplewrath]

8. At some point

Probably why I'd make a lousy politician. At some point the line is in the wrong place and needs to be crossed. Profiles in courage and all that.

[RandomAccess]

30. You'll probably not find old Joe up for nomination for

that award. I dislike him SO much, and that grifter daughter of his doesn't help.

[AlexSFCA]

9. it's a miracle that he is a senator in WV

hopefully if he wins, he’ll start shifting to the left more. This nov. we can’t take any risks

[Champion Jack]

10. Manchin is a member of ALEC

That should tell you all you need to know about Joe

[yortsed snacilbuper]

11. Do you know what the biggest lie in West Virginia is?

I was just helping the sheep over the fence.

[appalachiablue]

27. That's vular and insulting to the people and state. And grow up.

[yallerdawg]

13. How he voted was meaningless.

The R's had the votes, it was over.

Manchin is just shutting down one more Republican argument against him.

With 49 Democratic senators and needing 2 more in November, let's hope this helps get him re-elected!

[Me.]

14. THe Question Is...How Many Vital Votes With Cons Is Too Many

Waiting for the usual scold about us know nothing people and how often he votes with DEms. Though most of the votes he takes with Cons are crucial ones. Anyone want to bet he votes to confirm Kavanagh. But silly me to wish we had a DEm who acted voted like a DEm all the time. And funny how Heitkamp & Donnelly found it within themselves to vote no.

[GulfCoast66]

15. This was not vital

The republicans had the votes either way.

[Me.]

16. Famous Last Words

and since they had the votes why did he vote with them?

[yallerdawg]

17. In the South...

all I require my national office Democrats to do is toss me an occasional bone!

It's our number of senators (D) that matters - not the number of votes.

Get us to 51!

[MiniMe]

19. I'm sure the Democratic Leadership knew how he would vote and said it was OK

If they had needed his vote, leadership probably would have pushed him on it. It is WV, we need the all the dem seats we can get.

[GulfCoast66]

20. i do not love the situation. But is what it is.

Last edited Thu Jul 12, 2018, 07:33 PM - Edit history (1)

It is very common in Congress for leadership to give a member a pass in voting against the party majority if the vote will do nothing to win the issue but will potentially harm the candidate in an upcoming election.

Same with Gorsuch. The republicans had the votes. It would be self sabotaging to demand they vote in lock step if it harms their chance of reelection.

Purist hate this kind if calculating but it has always been and will always be a part of winning a governing collation.

If all our red state senators win and we miraculously take the senate they will vote to make Schumer senator majority leader and we will be able to squelch any vote for Trump appointees. That is worth putting up with these kinds of votes.

[Me.]

23. No Need To Be Dismissive

I know the argument...God knows it's been bandied around here enough and the scolds can't wait to rush out and explain it all to those us who just can't seem to get it. And I'm still wondering why Heitkamp & Donnelly, since as you say it doesn't matter at all, didn't vote with him. But never mind...

[GulfCoast66]

26. Sorry. I did sound dismissive. I will edit

I do not love the situation. But liberals are thin on the ground in some areas.

[Me.]

31. Thank You

[Proud Liberal Dem]

21. Re-Election in West Virginia

It's VERY Red


You want a Democratic Senator voting with us 40% of the time or a Republican Senator being one more vote for Mitch McConnell for Majority Leader and voting 100% of the time for Trump? We need to pick our battles and all that..........it's an ugly reality.

[karynnj]

25. Think of the TWO possibilities:

1) He votes against the Republicans. Result - we still lose and his opponent has an issue to use against him.

2) He votes with the Republicans Result - we lose, but his opponent has one less issue to bash him with and he can more credibly argue that he is not a knee jerk Democrat - a charge that will hurt him.

Ok, so when should he take a risk and vote against the Republicans. Easy, when there are a couple of Republicans willing to vote with us -- and his vote is needed. There have been some instances when that happened (ie on ACA).

Not to mention, I hope his key 2019 vote will be to be the 51st vote for a Democrat as Majority Leader.

[mythology]

22. Define crucial

He wasn't the deciding vote here. It was going to pass.

Unlike the ACA where it was passed with zero votes to spare. Or when he voted to save the ACA.

Trump won West Virginia by 40 points. The other Senator by 30. How many of Capito's go with us? You need to present a viable way to get a Senator who votes with us more, given the alternative currently is with us roughly 0 percent of the time.

[Recursion]

29. The only vital vote is the caucus

A vote for the caucus means more than literally every other vote combined.

If the past two years have not made that absolutely obvious to people, there's no hope for them.

[GeorgeGist]

18. It's clear where his daughter, AKA epi-pen thug ...

got her moral compass.

[maxsolomon]

24. He is a Dem. 51 Dems control, no matter if one is a DINO.

Hence, I'd vote for him without qualms. If I could stand to live in WV.

[Mr. Ected]

28. Not wanting to suggest that he's been paid off by the Russians

But what kind of Democrat wouldn't want the Mueller investigation to uncover the truth about our 2016 elections and the winning candidate's connections to Russia, something that is truly apolitical and solely in the interest of protecting our rule of law?

[RestoreAmerica2020]

32. Manchin a republikan? Looks like we need the duck test....

Last edited Thu Jul 12, 2018, 09:16 PM - Edit history (1)

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. The test implies that a person can identify an unknown subject by observing that subject's habitual characteristics.

It seems, of late, that every time I hear his name it's because he's supporting repub policies and I have had to ask myself-- is this guy really a democrat or a DINO?