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Shipwack

(2,158 posts)
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 11:42 PM Jul 2018

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Beat Joe Crowley In the Primary, But He'll Get to Be on the November Ballot

Last month, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez–a 28-year-old community organizer who’s never held public office–beat her opponent, 20-year incumbent Joe Crowley, in the Democratic Congressional primary for New York’s 14th District seat. She did so by running on an ultra-progressive platform of human and civil rights, and by engaging potential voters often ignored by mainstream politics. She’s so popular with voters that she won as a write-in third-party candidate in another primary in another district, where she wasn’t even running. (She immediately and graciously declined that nomination.)

And yet Ocasio-Cortez won’t be the only Democrat on that 14th District ballot in November. Through a weird loophole meant to favor third-party candidates, Crowley will remain on the ballot. As the New York Times explains, if a major-party candidate earns the endorsement of a third-party group–labor union and activism groups like the Women’s Equality Party or the Working Families Party–but they fail to win the major-party primary, they can run as a member of that other group, if they so choose. Crowley did earn the endorsement of the Working Families Party, but here’s the messed up part: immediately following his loss in the primary, the group asked him to vacate the line. And he refused.

Full article at https://www.themarysue.com/ocasio-cortez-joe-crowley-bs/

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Beat Joe Crowley In the Primary, But He'll Get to Be on the November Ballot (Original Post) Shipwack Jul 2018 OP
From Roll Call RandySF Jul 2018 #1
Yep. Why should he have to run for an office he has no intention of serving? kcr Jul 2018 #3
And another point RandySF Jul 2018 #4
I hate to see WFP being roped in with Our Revolution's schemes kcr Jul 2018 #5
Shes going to be a point of party contention JackInGreen Jul 2018 #2
Joe is willing to endorse her and campaign for her. NY_20th Jul 2018 #6
Her? JackInGreen Jul 2018 #7
Ocasio Cortez is female. NY_20th Jul 2018 #8
Am I failing to see JackInGreen Jul 2018 #9
She's create a rift where one doesn't exist, NY_20th Jul 2018 #10
She's not the one refusing to take her name off the ballot... regnaD kciN Jul 2018 #11
Did you miss the part about DURHAM D Jul 2018 #12
If she wants to go this route, NY_20th Jul 2018 #14
Yep. DURHAM D Jul 2018 #13
Same here. NY_20th Jul 2018 #15
Which makes it enven more incredible that some want her as House Speaker! KitSileya Jul 2018 #17
Ah, she ran at all JackInGreen Jul 2018 #19
I had no problem with her running NY_20th Jul 2018 #22
Bullshit. Adrahil Jul 2018 #23
She probably thinks he might beat her in the GE. she won in an election which had extremely low JI7 Jul 2018 #16
Yes I don't see the harm. As long as she doesn't switch parties she should win. ucrdem Jul 2018 #18
Interesting- the GOP here in NC just pushed through a law making that illegal Lee-Lee Jul 2018 #20
Interesting how she treated it as cute when it happened to her (with the reform party) KitSileya Jul 2018 #21

RandySF

(58,531 posts)
1. From Roll Call
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 11:44 PM
Jul 2018

A Crowley campaign aide told Roll Call on Thursday that the only ways to remove one’s name from the general election ballot are if the candidate dies, moves out of the state, is convicted of a crime or runs on the same party line for a different office.

The Working Families Party encouraged Crowley to run on its line for Montgomery County clerk in upstate New York, the aide said. Crowley does not intend to do so. A Democrat is also running for that office.

“Joe Crowley truly feels it is unethical to run for an office you don’t plan on serving in, in a place you do not live,” the aide said.



https://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/crowley-says-he-wont-run-against-ocasio-cortez-in-november

kcr

(15,315 posts)
3. Yep. Why should he have to run for an office he has no intention of serving?
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 12:08 AM
Jul 2018

Particularly since there's already a Dem on that ticket who one would assume actually wants to serve? He's right. It would be fraud. He isn't running. Ocasio-Cortez looks like a sore-winner pitching a fit demanding he be removed, and that's being generous.

RandySF

(58,531 posts)
4. And another point
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 12:11 AM
Jul 2018

Crowley will do far less damage in a 77% Hillary district than in a red county Upstate.

 

NY_20th

(1,028 posts)
6. Joe is willing to endorse her and campaign for her.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 12:22 AM
Jul 2018

I don't know who is giving her this advice to create division where there isn't any, but it's awful.

It seems that some want to be at war with the Democratic Party instead of the Republican Party and that's not helpful for 2018.

This nonsense has got to stop.

 

NY_20th

(1,028 posts)
14. If she wants to go this route,
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:31 AM
Jul 2018

she may very well lose to Joe Crowley in the General Election.

She needs to stop this nonsense and return his call.

 

NY_20th

(1,028 posts)
15. Same here.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:32 AM
Jul 2018

She's either getting very bad advice or she is very naïve.

This move is not helping her at all.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
17. Which makes it enven more incredible that some want her as House Speaker!
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 04:35 AM
Jul 2018

They want her to take the job from Nancy Pelosi - it boggles the mind. But that is typical of certain segments on either side of the political spectrum, who worship persons rather than think pragmatically to get stuff done.

 

NY_20th

(1,028 posts)
22. I had no problem with her running
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 10:31 AM
Jul 2018

I was very happy for her when she won the primary and thought she was a breath of fresh air and had an excellent opportunity to bring about unity.

She is getting very bad advice on this issue. Joe Crowley is well liked in his district and she's creating a divide that does not need to exist.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
23. Bullshit.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 10:46 AM
Jul 2018

I was fine with her running. I'm fine with her winning. I absolutely oppose her creating a rift where one does not exist.

JI7

(89,241 posts)
16. She probably thinks he might beat her in the GE. she won in an election which had extremely low
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:34 AM
Jul 2018

turnout with a total of about 16 thousand votes. it was more than crowley but the total number of voters was like 27 thousand which was very low.

she is probably worried that when more people go to vote during the general election they will vote for the guy they have always voted for .

but many people vote for party so this isn't really something she needs to worry about.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
18. Yes I don't see the harm. As long as she doesn't switch parties she should win.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 04:39 AM
Jul 2018

If, however, she should go off the rails, there will be a sure-fire backup. Can't hurt.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
20. Interesting- the GOP here in NC just pushed through a law making that illegal
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 06:23 AM
Jul 2018

The law here now says if you ran innanyboarties prinary and lostbyou cannot be on the ballot in that general election for the same office under another party or as an independent.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
21. Interesting how she treated it as cute when it happened to her (with the reform party)
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 06:40 AM
Jul 2018

but it's calamitous when it happens to her opponent. She had a legal way of getting out of it - she was already running somewhere else. Crowley would have to run in another district to get out of it, and to do that when he has no intention of actually running... He isn't that dishonorable.

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