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babylonsister

(171,056 posts)
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 07:54 PM Jul 2018

Former Federal Prosecutor Says Mueller's Next Indictment Will Zero In On Trump

https://www.politicususa.com/2018/07/13/former-federal-prosecutor-says-muellers-next-indictment-will-zero-in-on-trump.html

Posted on Fri, Jul 13th, 2018 by Jason Easley
Former Federal Prosecutor Says Mueller’s Next Indictment Will Zero In On Trump


Former federal prosecutor John Flannery said that he expects that Robert Mueller’s next indictment will zero in on Donald Trump.

Video @ link:

Flannery said when asked by Ari Melber what speaks to him in the indictment:

The thing that speaks to me is what I expect we’ll see in the next indictment, the kind of one-two-three of the Mueller investigation, which is pinning the tail on the donkey being the orange man in the West Wing. We have two critical dates, there are others here but you may notice that on June 8, these Russians set up a special website, a Facebook page, and a Twitter account, all of which was to disperse all the e-mails they’d stolen from the DNC and the DCCC as of that date. The next day they have a meeting in Trump Tower and it was published as a meeting that was going give information to the Trump campaign to go forward against Hillary Clinton. Then we have later in June another request for information because they were afraid that the Bernie Sanders people would go with Hillary after the nomination battle in July and so about a month later they had collected information and they did exactly that, they released it and days after they released that information the quote you put on the screen is the one that Trump stated which is more, give us more and they did that evening according to this indictment.”


Melber asked, “You’re suggesting this indictment tonight adds detail to the theory of the case that Donald Trump was not joking, was not being reckless, was not making a rhetorical point but was publicly actively trying to conspire with a foreign power in those remarks? Is that what you’re saying?”

Flannery answered, “Absolutely. He was arrogantly and transparently taking an overt act in this conspiracy with Russia to get elected in exchange for whatever his deal was with Putin that they’ll probably confirm in a couple days when they ask each other what to do behind closed doors. This has been a conspiracy. It’s a collusion and it explains why Trump gave the statement about the meeting was on June the 9. It was about adoptions of Russian children.”


Mueller has been very logical and methodical about this investigation is conducted. Flannery is likely correct. Mueller has rounded up the Russian operatives. He is going to follow that up by coming after the Americans who were working with the Russians, and that means that members of the Trump campaign are about to fall. It is all getting closer to Trump, and the next wave of indictments are likely to focus on Trump and his campaign.

Flannery’s theory explains why Republicans are so desperate to shut this investigation down.

Mueller is a freight train, and he is heading straight for Donald Trump.
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Former Federal Prosecutor Says Mueller's Next Indictment Will Zero In On Trump (Original Post) babylonsister Jul 2018 OP
If Mueller is a freight train Best_man23 Jul 2018 #1
Is it just me or do others think that trumps plea to Putin to release the emails was a set up? dhol82 Jul 2018 #2
I don't think that, but even if it was so, babylonsister Jul 2018 #3
Um, I meant that Putin walks away free dhol82 Jul 2018 #4
He will either way. babylonsister Jul 2018 #5
Would prefer Abu Ghraib George II Jul 2018 #27
Only if they can use the dogs. dhol82 Jul 2018 #28
Nah. nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #18
You really think trump is that bright ? Haggis for Breakfast Jul 2018 #22
No, I think he was following orders. dhol82 Jul 2018 #25
I'd love the Ecuadorans to kick Assange out of the embassy. WhiteTara Jul 2018 #6
July 27 Two year anniversary of Trump asking Russian to hack and release HRC's 33,000 emails bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #7
"We'll shut down Mueller, get back to normal, count our bloody cash and never die." byronius Jul 2018 #8
That's why conservatives are moving to impeach Rosenstein soon . . . CousinIT Jul 2018 #9
Quite foolish of them... paleotn Jul 2018 #12
It gives Trump cover to fire him OliverQ Jul 2018 #14
They may think that.... paleotn Jul 2018 #16
Precisely the point I was about to make green917 Jul 2018 #21
Jim Jordan is toast - burnt toast - Haggis for Breakfast Jul 2018 #26
They may impeach him (i.e. "indict") but they'll need 2/3 of the Senate to remove him from office. George II Jul 2018 #29
True, no doubt: janx Jul 2018 #10
No leader whose nation just filed an election meddling indictment would meet - also there Fred Sanders Jul 2018 #11
They're all swimming in dirty Russian Cash! green917 Jul 2018 #23
Donny may try RocRizzo55 Jul 2018 #13
The longer the time tRump spends w Putin behind closed doors, the more certainty there is conspiracy Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #15
Look for putin to wear a big big trench coat Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #31
drumpf is going to putin for advice Takket Jul 2018 #17
More like orders, rather than advice. And it'll be about rigging the mid-terms. Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #19
Putin will tell Trump to do what I do to the press LiberalArkie Jul 2018 #20
Is it wise to be so open about this? This may cause the Repubs to move swiftly to shut it down... Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #24
K&R Scurrilous Jul 2018 #30
Yep... Snackshack Jul 2018 #32

dhol82

(9,352 posts)
2. Is it just me or do others think that trumps plea to Putin to release the emails was a set up?
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 08:11 PM
Jul 2018

Putin told trump to say it and thereby has put trump in a stranglehold for treason and he walks away free.

babylonsister

(171,056 posts)
3. I don't think that, but even if it was so,
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 08:12 PM
Jul 2018

that sounds like collusion to me. If he was talking to Putin at all about flipping the election, that would not be legal either.

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
7. July 27 Two year anniversary of Trump asking Russian to hack and release HRC's 33,000 emails
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 08:42 PM
Jul 2018

So yes, I think this is coming to a sudden head soon

byronius

(7,394 posts)
8. "We'll shut down Mueller, get back to normal, count our bloody cash and never die."
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 08:50 PM
Jul 2018

Is that what they're really thinking?

Defined disconnection. But they seem to be going for it.

This is the start of the Days.

CousinIT

(9,239 posts)
9. That's why conservatives are moving to impeach Rosenstein soon . . .
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 08:52 PM
Jul 2018
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/396974-conservatives-moving-to-impeach-rosenstein-soon-report

Sources told the publication that conservatives have been preparing to have Rosenstein impeached for weeks over allegations that he’s held up their investigation into FBI agents who some lawmakers say are biased against President Trump.

House Freedom Caucus leaders Reps. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) and Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) are leading the effort, and the impeachment document could be filed as soon as Monday, according to Politico.

Ben Williamson, a spokesman for Meadows, declined to rule out if it would be filed next week, Politico reported.

The news comes the same day that Rosenstein announced charges against 12 Russian intelligence officials for allegedly hacking the Democratic National Committee.

Rosenstein has long been a target for Republicans who are frustrated over special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe into election meddling by Russia and possible collusion between Moscow and the Trump campaign. He is overseeing the probe after Attorney General Jeff Sessions recused himself from the Russia investigation, and some argue that he's the only person with the legal authority to fire Mueller.


paleotn

(17,911 posts)
12. Quite foolish of them...
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 09:16 PM
Jul 2018

They can't get that out of the House, much less 2/3's of the Senate. They're just making themselves look like co-conspirators, which they very well may be.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
16. They may think that....
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 09:36 PM
Jul 2018

but such a move would be so ridiculously self incriminating, I doubt even the orange man-child would attempt it. Also, I'd bet dollars to donuts Mueller and Rosenstein have a dead man switch of some kind and I'm sure Dumpster's legal team is well aware of it.

green917

(442 posts)
21. Precisely the point I was about to make
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 09:48 PM
Jul 2018

You beat me to the punch though. There are rumored to be as many as 6 sealed indictments in the Mueller probe simply waiting to be filed. My guess is that Mueller and his investigative team have plans involving federal indictments that would come out of the other offices that they have been sharing data with (the Southern District of New York for instance) and, possibly, a slew of state charges that have been forwarded to the NY Attorney General (who has already come out swinging for the fences where 45, his family, and his business dealings are concerned). Firing Rosenstien could present a bigger problem though because anyone that replaces him could slow walk and stall funding for the investigation rather than shut it down outright. I think it's too far along for them to really try to stop it at this point though. That's why Ghouliani was brought in...he's not a legal strategist but, rather, a political one. I think his sole role in the Trump legal team is to sow discord and convince Congresspeople and the American people that the Mueller investigation is the product of a poison tree of some kind and that, subsequently, 45 shouldn't be impeached. He's there because they know that it's a matter of time before Jared Kushner or Donald Trump Jr. get indicted and 45 is named as an unindicted Co-Conspirator (which probably comes with a recommendation of impeachment).

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
26. Jim Jordan is toast - burnt toast -
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 10:02 PM
Jul 2018

and he knows it. He's just dragging out the denials for as long as he can before the outrage forces him out. Then, we'll see him at a lectern, wife and children standing there like deer caught in the headlights, bellowing about how the press was out to get him and reiterating his strong christian and family values (Never once apologizing to the young men whose lives he failed to protect from some of the most predatory sex offenders on earth.), just before he announces his resignation to spend more time with his family.

The timing of all of this was no coincidence.

George II

(67,782 posts)
29. They may impeach him (i.e. "indict") but they'll need 2/3 of the Senate to remove him from office.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 10:05 PM
Jul 2018

That isn't going to happen.

janx

(24,128 posts)
10. True, no doubt:
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 08:54 PM
Jul 2018
"He was arrogantly and transparently taking an overt act in this conspiracy with Russia. . ."


And this one-on-one meeting with Putin and press conference to follow are more overt acts along the same lines. It's as if he is saying, "Here we are. I have the power to do this, and there's nothing you can do about it now."

As someone obviously pointed out on CNN today, what normal president would keep a meeting with Putin, let alone a press conference, in light of these indictments?

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
11. No leader whose nation just filed an election meddling indictment would meet - also there
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 09:15 PM
Jul 2018

is not barely a whimper of protest from the fake regime. The silence is again thunderous.

green917

(442 posts)
23. They're all swimming in dirty Russian Cash!
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 09:54 PM
Jul 2018

I think it's going to come out before this is all said and done that most of the Republicans in Congress have been the beneficiaries of LOTS of Russian money (Thank you Citizens United) that came from various sources (The NRA, Dana Roehrbacher, Paul Manafort and his contacts...the possibilities are almost endless) and they are all complicit. The only other thing I can think of that would give them the rationale to subvert our Democracy and suborn the perversion of our electoral process is the fact that the DNC weren't the only ones that were hacked, but the RNC's emails weren't released...perhaps they are better Kompromat if kept secret and held over the head of any Republican Congressman or Senator that dare not tow the party (Kremlin) line.

 

RocRizzo55

(980 posts)
13. Donny may try
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 09:27 PM
Jul 2018

a scorched Earth strategy, where he takes down as many people, and the country with him. This is how he operates with his contractors in NYC and vicinity. If he tries this, it could backfire on him big time.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
31. Look for putin to wear a big big trench coat
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 10:24 PM
Jul 2018

he will wrap it around dt and they will waddle out the back door to retirement for dt in Moscow..playing checkers late into the evenings until eternity....sigh...what??? Sorry. I dozed off. Must have been dreaming.

Takket

(21,560 posts)
17. drumpf is going to putin for advice
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 09:36 PM
Jul 2018

that's why the closed door meeting. i expect things to ramp up once he comes bck to the States. He'll have his plan and his marching orders.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
19. More like orders, rather than advice. And it'll be about rigging the mid-terms.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 09:48 PM
Jul 2018

What do I do next, boss? No sanctions - check (well,except for the part that Congress went behind my back and did something that the President can't control). I praise you publicly in front of the world - check. I start the process of dismantling NATO - check. I end all this working on climate change - check. Convince as many people as possible that you aren't interfering in America's govt - check (I've convinced about 30% of the country, maybe more).

What next, boss? What do I have to do to get a beautiful hotel in Moscow? And more funding of Trump Organization and The Trump Foundation?

And what do you need from me to rig the mid-terms? Just tell me, and you got it. I don't have ALL registered voters in the country, but I did get most of them. Do you need that database?

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
24. Is it wise to be so open about this? This may cause the Repubs to move swiftly to shut it down...
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 09:56 PM
Jul 2018

While I salivate at the thought of this con man getting revealed, I hate to see this talked about so openly right now, when there's time for the Republicans to (unbelievably) shut down the investigation. And they can do it.

Get rid of Rosenstein. New guy will stop the investigation. They can do that, I think.

The Repubs have talked a big game about getting tough if Mueller is stopped. But they haven't DONE anything to protect him.

Then the former Senate Majority Leader, Bill Frist, wrote a warning last week that Congress needs to pass a bill to protect Mueller now. I wonder if Frist wrote that because he has information that some were moving on shutting the investigation down. I think that's a possibility.

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