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Will you accept the election results in November (Original Post) Mr.Bill Jul 2018 OP
interesting question...especially considering the news in the past few days that the state and local Horse with no Name Jul 2018 #1
I didn't accept the 2016 results, and since nothing has changed in our vote collecting and ... planetc Jul 2018 #2
That would mean it was stolen. roamer65 Jul 2018 #3
Are you asking if we are willing to rise up?... lame54 Jul 2018 #4
Not necessarily, but if you want to make it part of Mr.Bill Jul 2018 #6
Absent that... lame54 Jul 2018 #7
Depends on what happens as we get closer to November. Hoyt Jul 2018 #5
This is potentially dangerous territory matt819 Jul 2018 #8
In a landslide? No. In a close contest? Maybe, but I would have doubts. Garrett78 Jul 2018 #9
Will we ever accept a result other than a win? B2G Jul 2018 #10
Will we ever stop speaking for other people? LanternWaste Jul 2018 #20
When do we demand paper ballots counted by human beings? CrispyQ Jul 2018 #11
+ 1000000000000000... fierywoman Jul 2018 #13
No, if we don't win our repbublic is done n/t FreeState Jul 2018 #12
Depends on what polls show. mythology Jul 2018 #14
I've lived my voting life in Texas, Oklahoma and Alabama. yallerdawg Jul 2018 #15
You have my sympathy. Mr.Bill Jul 2018 #16
That would be an unprecedented run... yallerdawg Jul 2018 #17
As opposed to what? oberliner Jul 2018 #18
Yes, if they are all paper ballots and supervised by certified multi-layer officials and counted by kacekwl Jul 2018 #19

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
1. interesting question...especially considering the news in the past few days that the state and local
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 01:55 PM
Jul 2018

voter rolls were penetrated by the Russians.

Considering the amount of people who have been marching in the street....


So I do believe that if the republicans win in a landslide.....we should probably start learning to speak russian or we should make a break for the northern or southern border because democracy will be dead.

planetc

(7,789 posts)
2. I didn't accept the 2016 results, and since nothing has changed in our vote collecting and ...
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 01:56 PM
Jul 2018

reporting systems, I won't accept the results for 2017 even if some Dems win. I want results that can be verified before I trust any announced election results since 2000. And elections before 200 don't look so hot either.

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
3. That would mean it was stolen.
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 01:58 PM
Jul 2018

I would then be in favor of secession referenda.

Joining the Canadian confederation looks more appealing every day that passes.

https://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/is-it-time-for-canada-to-annex-blue-america/

lame54

(35,268 posts)
4. Are you asking if we are willing to rise up?...
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 01:59 PM
Jul 2018

Because not accepting the last results hasn't stopped them one bit

lame54

(35,268 posts)
7. Absent that...
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 02:14 PM
Jul 2018

Not accepting has no meaning

I'm not leading the charge(wouldnt know where to start) but w/o some kind of pushback we are all accepting(or forced to swallow if you prefer) it

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
5. Depends on what happens as we get closer to November.
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 02:01 PM
Jul 2018

GOPers should get zero votes under current circumstances, but they still get a lot of support at local level -- particularly state level where gerrymandering is not as much of a factor.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
8. This is potentially dangerous territory
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 02:18 PM
Jul 2018

What if, as we all hope, Dems win?

What if Dems win in the states but lose in Congressional races?

We are, and have been, in seriously dangerous territory.

This has been discussed here for years.

CrispyQ

(36,424 posts)
11. When do we demand paper ballots counted by human beings?
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 02:32 PM
Jul 2018

Yes, that process has flaws, too. Every process does. But it seems like the simplest way to secure our elections from electronic hacking, is to go back to paper ballots that are counted by human beings, not tabulators.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
14. Depends on what polls show.
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 02:50 PM
Jul 2018

If for example as in 2016, the national polls right be before the election were highly accurate, then we lost.

As an increasingly frustrating reminder to give, there is exactly zero evidence votes were changed and all the evidence says that they weren't. Not wanting to accept basic reality, doesn't change facts.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
15. I've lived my voting life in Texas, Oklahoma and Alabama.
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 03:37 PM
Jul 2018

I have to ask - what would you consider a Republican landslide?

Mr.Bill

(24,253 posts)
16. You have my sympathy.
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 03:40 PM
Jul 2018



I was thinking mainly of Congress. Let's say the republicans picked up 30 seats in the house and 10 in the Senate.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
17. That would be an unprecedented run...
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 03:51 PM
Jul 2018

and you can bet a lot of votes would be looked at before these elections were certified as final results!

40 Democrats would not go down quietly!

kacekwl

(7,014 posts)
19. Yes, if they are all paper ballots and supervised by certified multi-layer officials and counted by
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 04:17 PM
Jul 2018

bonded officials under oath. As trump says, "we'll see".

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