Is it possible tRump/Putin will be discussing ways that tRump can declare

[madinmaryland]

Martial Law in this country??

If it is only the two of them in the room, how will anyone know what was discussed. I am being paranoid. Given what has happened over the last two years, I'm not sure.

[dumbcat]

1. He can just do it. No discussion necessary.

What could possibly stop him from declaring it?

[MousePlayingDaffodil]

4. Really?

How would that work, exactly?

I mean, Trump goes on television and says, "I hereby declare martial law."

Then what? What, um, would that even mean?

[dumbcat]

10. I believe that would be "declaring martial law"

wouldn't it? Wasn't that the subject of the OP? If it was possible?

What happens after that would probably be subject to a wide variety of opinions.

[MousePlayingDaffodil]

14. Well, the thing is . . .

. . . since "martial law" isn't a thing under the Constitution, I was wondering what somebody, anybody means when they speculate about a U.S. President doing so. '

That is to say, I could stand up tomorrow on a street corner somewhere and say that I'm "declaring martial law." Wouldn't mean a thing. Since the Constitution doesn't recognize the existence of "martial law" to begin with, why would Trump's "declaring" it mean anything?

Truth be told, I think the entire discussion here is what one would expect from InfoWars, not DU.

[dumbcat]

18. You are entirely correct

But where's the fun in that? We talk about "declaring martial law" around here all the time.

[Garrett78]

2. "...how will anyone know what was discussed?"

Nobody will. The fact that this private meeting is actually going to take place is one of the craziest things that's happened in my lifetime. You would think we're all extras on a movie set.

[madinmaryland]

7. THAT'S the point. In any meeting that I am in, either myself or someone else

IS taking notes and providing a written record of what was discussed. For me, it's contracturally required and a protection for the firm I work for. In'tRump's case it is for the safety of our country that the meeting be fully documented, even if there are top secret issues discussed.

How this is happening is just beyond reason.

[Laf.La.Dem.]

3. The GOP would back him up!!

[Bayard]

5. Red Dawn

Been thinking about this movie lately......

[roamer65]

20. ABC's old mini-series "Amerika" is more haunting.

The general plot line is now very plausible.

[heaven05]

6. there would be chaos

true the soldiers would probably follow his orders to kill Americans at least those who would show blind obedience to their Fuhrer, but others would not. Police and any other 'authority' would be knee deep in a situation that will spiral out of control. Everywhere.

[madinmaryland]

8. I think in addition to chaos, there would probably be a splintering of the union.

I just read that Gov. Cuomo is pushing for the NYS legislature to codify into law the complete legalization of abortion in advance of the possible end of Roe v Wade.

This is not going to end well.

[underthematrix]

9. THis reminds me of the Thai cave rescue. The MSM

kept trying to sell the public on the idea that weak hungry children who could not swim could be trained to scuba dive out a cave which had already taken the life of an expert Navy SEAL scuba diver. Most people didn't believe this. But the MSM did their level best to sell it.

Now the MSM is working overtime to sell the world on the idea that TRump meeting alone with Putin is the same thing as Trump and Putin having a private conversation. It's not. I don't believe Trump has ever had a PRIVATE conversation with Putin.

[Jake Stern]

11. Sounds very familiar. . . . . . . .

- The president is going to use a big event to declare martial law and install a dictatorship.

- The president is going to find some pretext to cancel elections with the help of a compliant congress and install himself as leader for life.

Liberals were saying that about George W. Bush

Right wingers were saying that about Bill Clinton and Barack Obama

Guess what? It didn't come to pass then and it's highly unlikely that it will under this asshole.


Jeezus, folks need to get a fucking grip.

[spin]

12. A voice of sanity for a change. ...

I well remember how the Republicans were sure Obama would declare martial law. Here is just one example:

Jade Helm 15 conspiracy theories

The Jade Helm 15 conspiracy theories were based on the Jade Helm 15 United States military training exercise which took place in multiple U.S. states in the summer of 2015, starting on July 15 and ending on September 15. The announcements of these training exercises raised concerns and led to speculative interpretations that were characterized by The New York Times as "travers[ing] the outer edges of political paranoia".[1]

Exercise detaiiks

The joint exercise in realistic military training (RMT) known as Jade Helm 15[2] was sponsored by the United States Special Operations Command (USSOCOM or SOCOM)[3] and involved the United States Army Special Operations Command (USASOC) and Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) with other U.S. Military units in multiple states, including Texas, Arizona, Florida, Louisiana, Mississippi, New Mexico, and Utah. Its stated purpose was "to improve the Special Operations Forces' capability as part of the National Security Strategy".[3] It was coordinated and led from Eglin Air Force Base, an Air Force Materiel Command (AFMC) base in northwest Florida.[4]

Approximately 1,200 troops were engaged over the course of the exercise.[4] They were "mainly Army Green Berets, but also a small group of Navy SEALS and Air Force special operations troops as well as conventional Army infantry",[5] although the initial request to state officials from USSOCOM listed elements of the United States Marine Corps Forces Special Operations Command (MARSOC), Marine expeditionary units, the 82nd Airborne Division, and "interagency partners" as participants.[3] Troops engaging in the exercise assumed the roles of either occupying or resistance forces.[6] Most locations were in sparsely populated arid regions near small towns. Some participants wore civilian attire and drove civilian vehicles.[7] Maps of the exercise included areas of the United States such as Colorado and California where no actual operations were planned.[8] The cities in Texas include Bastrop, Smithville, Big Spring, Caddo Lake, Caldwell, Christoval, College Station, Dell City, Eldorado, Goliad, Junction, Leakey, Menard, Mountain Home, San Angelo, San Antonio, and Victoria.[9]

***snip****

Conspiracy theories

The conspiracy theories seem to emanate from the map shown here from the U.S. Army Special Operations Command which divides the region into four colors, with two "hostile" states, two "permissive" states, two states leaning one way or the other, and California divided.[17] Jim Shea of the Hartford Courant's wrote that the conspiracy theories included: a "psychological operation aimed at getting people used to seeing military forces on the streets" so that they do not realize when an invasion actually takes place; an international operation aimed to seize people's guns; recently closed Walmarts used by the military to "stockpile supplies for Chinese troops who will be arriving to disarm Americans"; and a military plan to "round up political dissidents" and "remove key political figures" who may be against the imposition of martial law.[18] Other theories have described Jade Helm 15 as a "secret plot" to impose martial law, confiscate firearms, invade Texas, and institute "total population control."[19]



***snip***

U.S. Representative Louie Gohmert said in a statement on May 5, 2015 that his "office has been inundated with calls referring to the Jade Helm 15 military exercise" with concerns that the U.S. Army is preparing for "modern-day martial law". He alluded to a notorious remark made by Barack Obama, who claimed that Pennsylvanians were "bitter" and "cling to guns or religion":[46] "I was rather appalled that the hostile areas amazingly have a Republican majority, 'cling to their guns and religion,' and believe in the sanctity of the United States Constitution". He asserted that "the map of the exercise needs to change, the names on the map need to change, and the tone of the exercise needs to be completely revamped so the federal government is not intentionally practicing war against its own states."[45][47][48]

In a November 2015 GQ interview, President Obama described Jade Helm as "his favorite conspiracy theory".[49]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jade_Helm_15_conspiracy_theories

[madinmaryland]

13. Well...

- Bush had 9/11 which rightfully was a big event and did NOT declare martial law, though when he went to war against Iraq he lost most of his support within a 2-3 years.

- No one has ever seen an administration as corrupt as the one currently "running" this country. If you remember, the Bush misadministration who was very knowledgeable about Soviet policy, tried to fight a war in the ME using the policies of the Soviet era, and failed miserable.

We do not know what the fuck this administration is doing other than lining their own pockets. They even make the Bushies look like pikers.

[MousePlayingDaffodil]

15. Yes, bravo . . .

This needed to be said.

I understand why people here are upset about events. But some are letting their emotions run away with them or something, I don't know. They're spouting paranoid nonsense.

[GulfCoast66]

16. Yeah. Well no.

It would end his presidency in a week.

All 50 Governors would immediately say fuck that. OK. Maybe not Idaho and Oklahoma.

The entire Officer Corp would say fuck that.

The Freeperville nuts would love it, but not much they can do in their hoverounds and oxygen tanks.

[tavernier]

17. He will spell it Marshall law in a tweet,

pin a star on his lapel, strap on a holster with two six guns, and tell the world that he won a duel against Trudeau. And killed him.

[TheBlackAdder]

19. It's not paranoia. There is a reasonable basis to deduce Trump will sell the US and EU short.