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appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 10:32 PM Jul 2018

*Georgia Cops Use COIN-TOSS to Decide Arrest, for Speeding*

'Georgia officers on leave after coin-toss used to decide arrest,' NBC, 7/13/18

*VIDEO:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/georgia-officers-on-leave-after-coin-toss-used-to-decide-arrest/ar-AAA2ZDX

Two Georgia police officers have been placed on leave after video showed them using a coin-toss app before determining whether to arrest a woman caught speeding in April, and the police chief said he is "appalled" by the move.

"Why am I being arrested?" Sarah Webb is heard saying to Officer Courtney Brown in the bodycam footage posted by NBC affiliate WXIA of Atlanta, which first reported the story.
Webb, who said Friday she was speeding because she was late for her job at a hair salon, was arrested on charges of speeding, reckless driving and driving too fast for conditions, according to police records.

On Monday, a prosecutor dismissed the charges, the station reported.

In the video posted by WXIA, Brown and another officer, Kristee Wilson, are heard discussing what they should do with Webb, and the Brown says that she doesn't have speed detection equipment and Wilson says she doesn't have any tickets. The officers used the terms "A" or arrest for heads, and "R" for release for tails, according to the station.
The video audio appears to show Wilson say "This is tail right?" Brown says, "Yeah. So release?" and then Wilson says "23," or a police code for arrest, WXIA reported.

"These are people who are supposed to protect us, and instead are treating our freedom and our lives like games," Webb, 24, told NBC News in a phone interview Friday. "It's disgusting. It's scary to think police officers do stuff like this."
Roswell Police Chief Rusty Grant said both officers have been placed on administrative leave and an internal investigation has been launched.

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*Georgia Cops Use COIN-TOSS to Decide Arrest, for Speeding* (Original Post) appalachiablue Jul 2018 OP
85 in a 45 zone should not have been a question at all. KentuckyWoman Jul 2018 #1
Did you read closely? GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #5
Confused. The app said tails, release, but they arrested her anyways? unblock Jul 2018 #2
Also the article states that the police had no appalachiablue Jul 2018 #4
Boneheaded move by the police - but NO they didn't put your freedom in the hands of a coin toss Ms. Toad Jul 2018 #3

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
1. 85 in a 45 zone should not have been a question at all.
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 10:48 PM
Jul 2018


80 freaking 5 in a 45 zone. Miss Webb can seriously kiss the hell off. Cuff her, impound the car and give her some time to think about being a responsible driver.

Stupid dumb asses the whole lot of them. I'm appalled arresting her was even a question in the first place.

She's lucky she wasn't down Clayton Co. way... Sheriff Victor Hill would have had her face first in the pavement and tazed her 8 times and then had her sit in the back of the patrol car to watch them rip her car to shreds looking for drugs.

And yeah, the officers need to have some training.. What in the blue heck were they thinking?

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
5. Did you read closely?
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 12:42 AM
Jul 2018

They have no idea how fast she was going. Just what it ‘appearedl’. They had no detection device. Or so they claim.

unblock

(52,203 posts)
2. Confused. The app said tails, release, but they arrested her anyways?
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 11:03 PM
Jul 2018

Sounds like the app wasn't involved in the decision-making process at all, they were always going to arrest her.

Sounds to me like it was just a joke, as if there was any question she would be arrested. Of course she was always getting arrested but they were joking that maybe it was 50-50.

silly and unprofessional but if it wasn't actually a part of the decision-making process I don't see what the real problem is.

appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
4. Also the article states that the police had no
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 11:13 PM
Jul 2018

'speed detection equipment' (or tickets). So they just eyeballed, estimated the 85 mph speed of the driver? Sloppy, mess.

In the video posted by WXIA, Brown and another officer, Kristee Wilson, are heard discussing what they should do with Webb, and the Brown says that she doesn't have speed detection equipment and Wilson says she doesn't have any tickets. The officers used the terms "A" or arrest for heads, and "R" for release for tails, according to the station.
The video audio appears to show Wilson say "This is tail right?" Brown says, "Yeah. So release?" and then Wilson says "23," or a police code for arrest, WXIA reported.
In a police arrest report, Brown wrote that she was on patrol on April 7 when a vehicle sped past her, and she estimated in the report that the car was traveling around 85 mph in a 45 mph zone before it was pulled over.

Ms. Toad

(34,066 posts)
3. Boneheaded move by the police - but NO they didn't put your freedom in the hands of a coin toss
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 11:04 PM
Jul 2018

You did that by speeding, estimated at nearly twice the posted speed, on wet roads.

Aside from which, the coin toss was for release and they arrested her. So, while they may have been playing at the coin toss, in this instance (with an apparently really excessive speed), they ignored it

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