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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 08:11 AM Jul 2018

Prince Charles and Prince William refused to meet with Don & Melanie. I really don't care, do U?

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/royal-family-snubbed-trump-melania-uk-visit-simply-refused-attend/



According to the Sunday Times, members of the royal family, including Prince Charles and Prince William, refused to meet with President Donald Trump and his wife Melania during their stop-over in London.

The report states that the family left it to Queen Elizabeth II to meet and greet the American president while everyone else avoided Trump who is highly unpopular in the United Kingdom.

According to a “well-placed sources” at Buckingham Palace, the two princes avoidance of Trump’ “was a snub,” with a source saying they “simply refused to attend.”

The Times went on to quote a Whitehall official who explained that Trump’s visit with the Queen was “kept to a bare minimum,” and that other members of the royal family “were not as enthusiastic as they were when Obama came over.”

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Prince Charles and Prince William refused to meet with Don & Melanie. I really don't care, do U? (Original Post) Miles Archer Jul 2018 OP
republican comrade Dirty Donny* gets royal snubbing Achilleaze Jul 2018 #1
Shocking! After going into great detail about his lust for their ex-wife/mother - on radio . . . hatrack Jul 2018 #2
Haven't heard the word grotty in years but it really fits. gordianot Jul 2018 #6
Grotty to the max! colorado_ufo Jul 2018 #44
Their esteem just went up greatly in my eyes. smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #56
So Lizzie took one for the team? HipChick Jul 2018 #3
Elizabeth appears to be . . . MrModerate Jul 2018 #11
You could tell she wasn't happy about it either FakeNoose Jul 2018 #12
She was thrilled Roy Rolling Jul 2018 #41
+1000 smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #59
See my reply #9 syringis Jul 2018 #14
My sympathy to Queen Elizabeth for her sacrifice. pazzyanne Jul 2018 #23
You have to respect her for doing her duty by Ilsa Jul 2018 #30
Here's what I think probably happened FakeNoose Jul 2018 #55
I thought keeping her waiting was Ilsa Jul 2018 #57
Stiff upper lip! NickB79 Jul 2018 #31
Upper and lower - she could have cracked walnuts with them during the visit hatrack Jul 2018 #48
They owe her big time for that! Pacifist Patriot Jul 2018 #60
I guess Queen Elizabeth drew the short straw this time. tanyev Jul 2018 #4
Considering the raunchy comments Trump has made about Princess Di PA Democrat Jul 2018 #5
+1 dalton99a Jul 2018 #13
I don't think Diana's boys are aware that Cheeto said these things FakeNoose Jul 2018 #15
I bet friends have filled them in since then. Ilsa Jul 2018 #32
The pig thinks everyone has a memory that is as short as his. pazzyanne Jul 2018 #25
Well, yeah, but he's still big shakes in Pennsyltucky underpants Jul 2018 #7
So he walked in front of the queen and she had to look at that fat ass. 3Hotdogs Jul 2018 #8
Hi Miles syringis Jul 2018 #9
Why are blue and yellow not innocent colors? nt tblue37 Jul 2018 #19
Maybe it's the combo of colors? MoonRiver Jul 2018 #21
Hi MoonRiver syringis Jul 2018 #28
Hi Tblue syringis Jul 2018 #26
Thanks! nt tblue37 Jul 2018 #29
Every word of this is MontanaMama Jul 2018 #22
Hi MontanaMama, how are you ? syringis Jul 2018 #33
Who knew that the color the Queen MontanaMama Jul 2018 #46
Not British, but as I understand it, "High Tea" is quite the ceremony... Wounded Bear Jul 2018 #36
The look on the security lady's face is gold, like WTF is that?? KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2018 #10
"refused to meet with Don & Melanie" Hayduke Bomgarte Jul 2018 #16
I would have quickly abdicated so Charles had to do it instead. eShirl Jul 2018 #17
Good one. narnian60 Jul 2018 #18
When a twit like Charles refuses to meet Trump its not a good sign for Trump. marble falls Jul 2018 #20
I'm sure they had better things to do, like visit a sanitation facility. appleannie1943 Jul 2018 #24
To the left, asshole... Raster Jul 2018 #27
"Slovenian Barbie" -- good one. An advantage to my humble abode, the Trumps will never visit NCjack Jul 2018 #39
LOVE your "Slovenian Barbie" nickname, Raster! calimary Jul 2018 #40
Thanks, calimary... I too love the Brits... Raster Jul 2018 #47
And besides that, he seems to have a well-developed instinct for "NOBODY tells ME what to do." calimary Jul 2018 #54
EVERYONE that comes in contact with the British Royals is briefed on protocol... Raster Jul 2018 #63
I only wish the Queen had refused. nt Ferrets are Cool Jul 2018 #34
Well done: Royal family 'snub' Trump as Queen left to meet the US president alone Daily Mail Onlin Gothmog Jul 2018 #50
Prince William has his mother's sense of decency. roamer65 Jul 2018 #35
Good on them! They're it, after Queen Elizabeth. calimary Jul 2018 #37
Since Trump issued a non-specific threat about what he'd do to Charles if he said anything Denzil_DC Jul 2018 #38
Good For The Queen QuantaviousJackson Jul 2018 #42
They know what.they are doing - cilla4progress Jul 2018 #43
I imagine it was one of the more noxious duties the Queen has had to carry out. Vinca Jul 2018 #45
Prince Charles and Prince William were unwilling to meet Trump, Gothmog Jul 2018 #49
I only care because MontanaMama Jul 2018 #51
Not only did Trump stalk Princess Diana avebury Jul 2018 #52
Two combat vets Soxfan58 Jul 2018 #53
in your face, donnie and malaria heaven05 Jul 2018 #58
Royals did a 180 from when President Obama Cha Jul 2018 #61
Well, at first, I sorta DID care... Mister Ed Jul 2018 #62

hatrack

(59,584 posts)
2. Shocking! After going into great detail about his lust for their ex-wife/mother - on radio . . .
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 08:17 AM
Jul 2018

Good for them, giving this grotty fat fuck just the respect he earned - i.e. zero.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
56. Their esteem just went up greatly in my eyes.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 04:52 PM
Jul 2018

They are doing what everyone should be doing to this cretin. Ignoring, snubbing, shaming the fat POS.

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
11. Elizabeth appears to be . . .
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 08:50 AM
Jul 2018

Both immortal and invulnerable. To her, Trump is just a brief squeak. She's dealt with hundreds of these self-important ninnies in her time.

pazzyanne

(6,552 posts)
23. My sympathy to Queen Elizabeth for her sacrifice.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 09:45 AM
Jul 2018

Now that is what you call dedication to your position/job.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
30. You have to respect her for doing her duty by
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 10:07 AM
Jul 2018

Visiting with these two racists for an hour. It couldn't have been fun dealing with his disrespect, stupidity, and lack of manners, among other things.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
55. Here's what I think probably happened
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 04:49 PM
Jul 2018

I don't think Cheeto was racist or rude, other than showing up late. He just talked about himself the entire time. I'm sure he made it all about him, and she would have been bored to tears.

Queen Elizabeth is the richest woman in the world, or at least she's in the top 5. She owns more castles and mansions than Cheeto could ever dream of, and it puts him at a disadvantage. He had to talk himself up incessantly just to convince the Queen that he belongs in her category. (He doesn't, and he never will.)

The Queen loves talking about horses and dogs, and Cheeto doesn't know the first effing thing about them. She just gave them tea, a few cookies, polite chit-chat and kicked them out of the house as fast as she could.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
57. I thought keeping her waiting was
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 04:54 PM
Jul 2018

very uncool.

The handshake business was fine. She offered her hand very quickly so there would be no confusion about it.

I bet the rest of it was exactly as you described. She probably was fairly quiet so they would get bored and leave faster.

tanyev

(42,553 posts)
4. I guess Queen Elizabeth drew the short straw this time.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 08:21 AM
Jul 2018

Somebody had to do it. And you don't dare pawn it off on Princess Michael because she probably adores Trump.

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
5. Considering the raunchy comments Trump has made about Princess Di
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 08:22 AM
Jul 2018

on the Howard Stern Show, I'm not surprised:


In a 1997 appearance, Stern and Trump talked about the possibility of requiring women to get HIV tests before Trump would have sex with them. “I wouldn’t say I do this, but you could send lots of people you really like to the doctor before you ever get to know them,” Trump suggests.

Stern then followed up on a line of questioning he had started in an earlier interview (which has been available previously, and widely discussed) in which Trump agreed with Stern’s suggestion that Trump “could have nailed” the recently deceased Princess Diana. Stern again posits that Trump “could have nailed her.”

Referring back to their discussion of HIV testing, the radio host then acted out a scene where Trump tells her to get tested first. “Hey Lady Di, would you go to the doctor?” Stern mockingly asks. Trump then gets in on the joke, imagining the conversation with the British royal. “Go back over to my Lexus, because I have a new doctor,” he says, as if addressing her. “We wanna give you a little checkup.”

As he did with many famous women, Trump proceeded to evaluate Diana’s appearance in oddly specific ways. Although he allowed that “she had times when she didn’t look great” he deemed her “supermodel beautiful.”


And the PIG expects the Royal Family to welcome him?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/reliable-source/wp/2017/09/25/in-newly-surfaced-howard-stern-interview-trump-joked-about-giving-princess-di-an-hiv-test/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.0be970c3af36

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
15. I don't think Diana's boys are aware that Cheeto said these things
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 08:59 AM
Jul 2018

It's not that they are stupid, they aren't. But they do live in sort of a bubble and for many years they have had to tune out all the chatter about their mother. I'm sure that Wills and Harry both find him detestable, even without knowing the worst about him.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
32. I bet friends have filled them in since then.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 10:14 AM
Jul 2018

Sure, no one who cared about them would have told them about this when they were young, but as adults, over the last three years, I bet they heard something and got the scoop on how trump would have required their mother to take a health-purity STD test before he fucked her.

I suspect that given the opportunity, I would have accepted the offer to have tea with him, then spilled a hot pot in his lap.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
9. Hi Miles
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 08:47 AM
Jul 2018

Even the Queen wouldn't have met him if she hadn't been trapped by May who invited Trump in the early days of his presidency.

I remember the Queen was upset because May should have asked her before. So to limit the damages, the visit was downgraded from “State visit” to “Working visit”

She could avoid meeting him, but she's very subtle.

He was treated with the slightest consideration possible. Hardly enough to pretend not to be insulting. Being welcomed as he was and considering the colors the Queen wore which are nothing innocent, is certainly more contemptuous than not being received.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
21. Maybe it's the combo of colors?
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 09:31 AM
Jul 2018

Don't know but I thought she looked great. Much better than the rude, rumpled fatso.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
28. Hi MoonRiver
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 09:57 AM
Jul 2018

Yes, she looked great.

Blue and yellow are the EU flag colors. She's pro Europe. She can't express her political opinions, but she masters to the perfection the art of showing them without breaking any protocol !

She clearly didn't like what Trump said on Brexit.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
26. Hi Tblue
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 09:53 AM
Jul 2018

Blue and yellow are the EU flag colors. The Queen knows how to deliver a message without saying a single word !

MontanaMama

(23,313 posts)
22. Every word of this is
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 09:31 AM
Jul 2018

fascinating! I had no idea. ‘He was treated with the slightest consideration.’ This makes me love QE2. I can just imagine the planning that went into this working visit...details right down to the colors she wore? How interesting! Thank you for sharing this info.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
33. Hi MontanaMama, how are you ?
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 10:15 AM
Jul 2018

Foreign leaders visits are very codified and have specific protocols depending on what type of visit is.

Generally working visits involve less decorum and honors.

In UK, it's up to the Queen to agree or not a state visit as it implies great decorum and honors.

Blue and yellow are the EU flag colors. Notice how her outfit is all most all blue with very few yellows. Exactly like the flag : blue with 12 yellow stars.

She has a duty of reserve, but she knows how to show what she thinks !

In her position, she couldn't tell better how much she despise the pig !


MontanaMama

(23,313 posts)
46. Who knew that the color the Queen
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 11:26 AM
Jul 2018

chooses to wear could be a hidden message? How dignified AND mysterious. He and his handlers are to ignorant to pick up on that. Again, I’m fascinated!

All is good here in Montana, dear syringis! We’re in the middle of our sweet, short summer and happy to not have wildfires...yet.

Your updates and news about the Orange Ignoramus’ European visit and related protests have been so entertaining. Europe has done a fantastic job sticking it right to him. Thank you!

Wounded Bear

(58,648 posts)
36. Not British, but as I understand it, "High Tea" is quite the ceremony...
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 10:51 AM
Jul 2018

much like the Japanese, the brits can really drag that one out. It can be quite the social event.

Trump was in there for what? 20 minutes?

Yeah, I'd say the Queen did the absolute minimum based on her protocols, not Trump's.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
10. The look on the security lady's face is gold, like WTF is that??
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 08:48 AM
Jul 2018

The Dotard was probably too busy sucking up to Tories like Boris to meet the princes. Besides, he probably feared that Harry would punch him out and stomp his fat ass.

Just like Melanoma's jacket, Drumpy only goes for that which scores "win" points with his base......

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
39. "Slovenian Barbie" -- good one. An advantage to my humble abode, the Trumps will never visit
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 10:57 AM
Jul 2018

my neighbors or me.

calimary

(81,238 posts)
40. LOVE your "Slovenian Barbie" nickname, Raster!
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 10:58 AM
Jul 2018

The British people were wonderful! They get him, just like Charles and William do.

I have a friend who voted for trump and makes all kinds of excuses for him - AND the republi-CONS, and their HORRID policy ideas. But let trump turn his back on the Queen and disrespect Her Majesty, and MAN-OH-MAN is my friend pissed! I'm not in the mood to start fight with her at the moment, but all of me is smirking - "well, girlfriend, YOU VOTED FOR HIM."

Raster

(20,998 posts)
47. Thanks, calimary... I too love the Brits...
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 12:54 PM
Jul 2018

... and don't anyone try and say he didn't know better. He did. His disrespecting the Queen WAS INTENTIONAL. This was tRump* deliberately making an international ass out of himself because he thought it would play well to toxic "base."

calimary

(81,238 posts)
54. And besides that, he seems to have a well-developed instinct for "NOBODY tells ME what to do."
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 03:41 PM
Jul 2018

I'm sure he was carefully advised about the protocols for greeting royalty, especially Queen Elizabeth - the ultimate royal of record. And as usual with whatever advice he gets about how to behave, he ignored it. Because nobody tells him what to do. That's his main problem, having been brought up that way. He was taught that he was a king (according to what I've read about his dad) and nobody tells a king what to do.

We might all have been better off if somebody HAD told him what to do, when he was growing up.

DAMN JERK.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
63. EVERYONE that comes in contact with the British Royals is briefed on protocol...
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 06:27 AM
Jul 2018

...EVERYONE, leaders of state, included.

Donald tRump* is a good argument for the theory that some elements of sociopathic and psychopathic behavior can be genetic and run in families.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
35. Prince William has his mother's sense of decency.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 10:46 AM
Jul 2018

Therefore, he wants nowhere near the orange mutant.

The Queen did her official duty and nothing more. Smart play.

calimary

(81,238 posts)
37. Good on them! They're it, after Queen Elizabeth.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 10:53 AM
Jul 2018

Gratifying to see they've already got donald's number. Especially William.

Denzil_DC

(7,233 posts)
38. Since Trump issued a non-specific threat about what he'd do to Charles if he said anything
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 10:56 AM
Jul 2018

untoward if they ever met, it's not really a surprise.

It's a shame Philip is so old and unwell. He'd have known how to handle Trump.

42. Good For The Queen
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 11:03 AM
Jul 2018

Good for the Queen and all. Donnie is not worthy.

My only issue with the royals is that the monarchy is effectively an acting troup primarily employed to bring tourism dollars to the isle. There is no real standing and thus their rebuke of Trump is limited in its impact.

cilla4progress

(24,728 posts)
43. They know what.they are doing -
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 11:04 AM
Jul 2018

see history in the long view.

PS There is no question the intended message of Melainia's jacket on such a day. The only question is whether she chose to wear it, or they made her...

avebury

(10,952 posts)
52. Not only did Trump stalk Princess Diana
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 02:19 PM
Jul 2018

after the divorce (he lusted to boink her and she thought he as creepy), Trump also make some inappropriate comments about Prince William's wife after the paparazzi picture of his wife was published. Prince Harry's wife has also had past history of making negative comments about Trump. No way would William or Harry would ever agree to meet with Trump.

Mister Ed

(5,930 posts)
62. Well, at first, I sorta DID care...
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 09:20 PM
Jul 2018

...but only because I thought that by "Don and Melanie", you meant Don Johnson and Melanie Griffith. But Donald and Melania Trump? Nah. The hell with them.

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