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PunkinPi

(4,875 posts)
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 08:18 AM Jul 2018

Watch: from Sacha Baron Cohen's new show - GOP endorses firearms for toddlers

Last edited Sun Jul 15, 2018, 12:22 PM - Edit history (1)




"Kinder Guardians" is a fake program invented by SBC for his new show, Who Is America? GOP current and expols voluntarily read from a teleprompter in support of this fake program.



ETA: full segment via YouTube; GOP congress part starts about - 7:47 mark

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Watch: from Sacha Baron Cohen's new show - GOP endorses firearms for toddlers (Original Post) PunkinPi Jul 2018 OP
Cohen's doing brilliant satire, but rightwingers are "for real" FakeNoose Jul 2018 #1
This is a must watch. dalton99a Jul 2018 #2
OMG. OMG. OMG. PA Democrat Jul 2018 #3
I won't watch this any more than I would watch something from . . . MrModerate Jul 2018 #4
But O'Keefe's goal was to fool you, the viewer. That's not Cohen's goal, Demit Jul 2018 #6
Alan Funt was cruel, but not malignant. n/t MrModerate Jul 2018 #23
Keep moving those goalposts, you'll always win your point. Demit Jul 2018 #25
Pardon? MrModerate Jul 2018 #26
You began by comparing Sasha Cohen to James O'Keefe on the basis that both practiced deception. Demit Jul 2018 #27
No!! False equivalence. O'Keefe edited to distort and lie outright. rainin Jul 2018 #9
You don't think the Sascha Baron Cohen videos are edited? oberliner Jul 2018 #14
Edited for time, not context. SBC was sued several times in the past, and he's been proven right. TheBlackAdder Jul 2018 #16
I'd be curious to see the one he did with Bernie Sanders oberliner Jul 2018 #18
Edited to deceive? Show me proof. rainin Jul 2018 #20
I don't know how you can be confident that you've gotten someone's "real views" . . . MrModerate Jul 2018 #24
Referring to the clip above, they said what they said. They weren't forced to say it. rainin Jul 2018 #28
This is hilarious - salin Jul 2018 #5
If this was O'keefe, the media would be treating this as a documentary spanone Jul 2018 #7
I confess, that made me laugh MrScorpio Jul 2018 #8
Can someone help me find my jaw, it dropped after watching this and I cannot find it. Pepsidog Jul 2018 #10
The "science behind this program" is hilarious... Sancho Jul 2018 #11
I thought the only science they needed was Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2018 #13
What the fuck! Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2018 #12
The only answer to a bad toddler with a gun is skip fox Jul 2018 #15
OMG Puzzler Jul 2018 #17
Sarah Palin is doing damage control AwakeAtLast Jul 2018 #19
Elevated levels of the pheromone Blink-182! Generic Brad Jul 2018 #21
These men are insane JDC Jul 2018 #22
"Liberals are using the shootings to further their anti-tragedy agenda." .99center Jul 2018 #29
Cohen uses advance teams months in advance Puzzler Jul 2018 #30

FakeNoose

(32,620 posts)
1. Cohen's doing brilliant satire, but rightwingers are "for real"
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 08:36 AM
Jul 2018

Sasha Barron Cohen is at it again! These rightwingers aren't "playing along" they're answering for real. They're dumb enough and clueless enough that they don't recognize Cohen, so they think it's a real interview. Fools and assholes.

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
4. I won't watch this any more than I would watch something from . . .
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 08:54 AM
Jul 2018

James O'Keefe. The fact that Cohen is being funny doesn't excuse the deception.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
6. But O'Keefe's goal was to fool you, the viewer. That's not Cohen's goal,
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 09:09 AM
Jul 2018

any more than it was Allen Funt's with Candid Camera.

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
26. Pardon?
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 01:36 PM
Jul 2018

Funt's humor was at the expense of his unknowing victims, regardless of the fact that he later got permission to show his practical jokes. Cohen's is the same, except that there's a gloss of seriousness about the comedy because the subjects are famous.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
27. You began by comparing Sasha Cohen to James O'Keefe on the basis that both practiced deception.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 01:56 PM
Jul 2018

When it was pointed out that Allen Funt of Candid Camera also practiced deception—and let the audience in on it, the same as Cohen and unlike O'Keefe—you switched to comparing Cohen to Funt on the basis of humor.

You're all over the place trying to justify why you don't like Sasha Cohen. Btw, that "gloss of seriousness" is called satire. The purpose of which is to skewer the powerful, aka "famous."

Hope that helps.

rainin

(3,010 posts)
9. No!! False equivalence. O'Keefe edited to distort and lie outright.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 09:32 AM
Jul 2018

Getting people's real views on tape is like hearing what they tell their friends and donors. People should see who they really are unedited.

Proof will come when NO guest demands that the full unedited tape be released.

rainin

(3,010 posts)
20. Edited to deceive? Show me proof.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 10:33 AM
Jul 2018

Honestly, would you agree to say these lines on television? I wouldn't say them in on an internet discussion board. They did.

Obviously, they thought they were talking to friendlies. The right wing ONLY talks to friendlies. If you want to indict him for deception, you could get him for that, I guess.

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
24. I don't know how you can be confident that you've gotten someone's "real views" . . .
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 01:31 PM
Jul 2018

When you're interviewing them deceptively.

rainin

(3,010 posts)
28. Referring to the clip above, they said what they said. They weren't forced to say it.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 02:44 PM
Jul 2018

It's not 1/2 of the sentence so you miss the true point. Remember Obama saying "they didn't build that"? That was deceptive editing. These people are saying full sentences.

I can't personally imagine being misled into saying those sentences, so I guess I'm not ready to give them the benefit of the doubt.

salin

(48,955 posts)
5. This is hilarious -
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 08:54 AM
Jul 2018

they are clearly reading from a script - not caring that they do not understand the script in terms of references (esp when talking about the 'science' behind it) rather than read up/try to learn - they mindlessly read/tape/promote. Then later are upset that it was a gag.

Idiots.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
10. Can someone help me find my jaw, it dropped after watching this and I cannot find it.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 09:37 AM
Jul 2018

Had I not seen this with my own eyes I wouldn’t believe it. Surely they cannot be that ignorant. The Republican Party should be outlawed for pure unadulterated, unmitigated, world class stupidity. A larger group of morons there never was. Wow Wow Wow !!!!

Generic Brad

(14,274 posts)
21. Elevated levels of the pheromone Blink-182!
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 10:38 AM
Jul 2018

How can someone be that out of touch that they could read that aloud and not have their bullshit detector go off?

Puzzler

(2,505 posts)
30. Cohen uses advance teams months in advance
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 02:46 AM
Jul 2018

Which is why so many are deceived.

(He did this with Borat)

SBC is a highly intelligent articulate Cambridge graduate, he is also Ashkenazi Jewish. And left wing. He never backs down.

Cohen knows how to go after racists, and he’s has not, and has never been scared to do this.

Yeah, I know some find him offensive. But there is so much here (in the extended preview) that will finish off a more than a few. And deservedly so.

I’d like to see and hear the GOPers and NRA-ers try and deny they said what they said. Because SBC, will be very prepared to retaliate much harder.

This is not O’Keefe stuff. And I hope every single one of these deplorables go down!!!

-Puzzler

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