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Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 12:13 PM Jul 2018

Avenatti is a bullshitter


The republic is at stake. If he has discs with incriminating information, let them out. Don't show pictures of them and make coy threats.

Likewise if James Woods is a predator and he has the word of victims, don't threaten to out him. Just out him.

Stop playing for the cameras and help us get rid of these fuckers for good.
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Avenatti is a bullshitter (Original Post) Dreamer Tatum Jul 2018 OP
He is not a bullshitter leftofcool Jul 2018 #1
Did I ever tell you about The Tortoise and the Hare ? DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #2
Did either animal have nuclear weapons? nt Dreamer Tatum Jul 2018 #3
Yes, I believe you did. leftofcool Jul 2018 #4
Hyperbole, 1. If Avenatti did have discs there would still need to be 67 senators to remove Red Don uponit7771 Jul 2018 #5
Although folks here like him for giving trump a hard time (me too), he is a mediahound and Hoyt Jul 2018 #6
He is an effective voice for justice. Sophia4 Jul 2018 #35
Yeah, but he's our bullshitter! Seriously, one year is considered overnight in the law profession. TheBlackAdder Jul 2018 #7
K & R Wwcd Jul 2018 #11
They do indeed leftofcool Jul 2018 #17
Avenatti Is Doing What All Democrats Should PaulX2 Jul 2018 #25
I agree with the OP SCantiGOP Jul 2018 #8
He's an attorney, not a politician Wwcd Jul 2018 #12
I guess you missed the part where he laid out his progressive policies? leftofcool Jul 2018 #15
Avenatti knows how to tell a story. Sophia4 Jul 2018 #36
I've been wondering about him. TBA Jul 2018 #9
How do you know he doesn't know anything about immigration law? leftofcool Jul 2018 #14
Avenatti can Consult with or Hire Immigration Specialists-The Best Ones dlk Jul 2018 #18
He has support staff and probably works with other lawyers. Sophia4 Jul 2018 #37
The disc... Mike Nelson Jul 2018 #10
He's a fighter manor321 Jul 2018 #13
Hell, yes. Me too! I like the guy and I'm glad he has the personality and demeanor he has! CTyankee Jul 2018 #24
Show No Mercy PaulX2 Jul 2018 #28
Exactly! Leith Jul 2018 #39
There's a reason Trump has never attacked Daniels. And Avenatti has knocked Trump off his game. dem4decades Jul 2018 #16
He seems to know pretty instinctively what gets under Trump's skin. CTyankee Jul 2018 #43
I think of Avenatti as just another front in a war being waged. How he coordinates his attacks is up dameatball Jul 2018 #19
I welcome all ammunition against the treasonous regime dalton99a Jul 2018 #20
The Fast and Furious Michael Avenatti! MrsCoffee Jul 2018 #21
+1. No Stormy & Avenatti, no Cohen raid dalton99a Jul 2018 #22
You're Confusing the Court of Public Opinion and the Mainstream Media with Trial Law dlk Jul 2018 #23
When has this guy ever delivered ? Self promotion is his only concern IMO. Trust Buster Jul 2018 #26
I love him. He's one of the loudest voices still talking about those kids. Power to him! Squinch Jul 2018 #27
He's a showman, just like Trump. I do enjoy his constant trolling, however. Oneironaut Jul 2018 #29
We Need A Thousand Avenattis PaulX2 Jul 2018 #30
+1000000000 Pachamama Jul 2018 #34
His job is his client's welfare Loki Liesmith Jul 2018 #31
Love the guy - he fights KT2000 Jul 2018 #32
"The republic is at stake?" Gimme a break. shanny Jul 2018 #33
The OP is wrong and the author knows it, Avenatti works for his clients not the american people populistdriven Jul 2018 #38
Yes, and his work has helped nail Cohen. You can never please some people. OnDoutside Jul 2018 #45
He may or may not be a bullshitter ..I don't care calguy Jul 2018 #40
Avenatti, unlike some here, is playing a long game, not just going with everything right away. empedocles Jul 2018 #41
I applaud anyone who will out a pathological liar and sociopathic abuser. Nt calendargirl Jul 2018 #42
Not really a good try there. Kingofalldems Jul 2018 #44
Avenatti is an endurance racer. gibraltar72 Jul 2018 #46
Where is that thumbsdown button when you need it. nt Ferrets are Cool Jul 2018 #47

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
1. He is not a bullshitter
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 12:14 PM
Jul 2018

There are already 3 cases against Woods pending. Woods has also sued several women for coming forward. More cases will be filed

uponit7771

(90,336 posts)
5. Hyperbole, 1. If Avenatti did have discs there would still need to be 67 senators to remove Red Don
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 12:18 PM
Jul 2018

... IF ... there was anything illegal on them so the hopes that whatever he had would bring Red Don down is not realistic.

2. Red Don doesn't have any shame, he could have discs of Red Don screwing a tree while smiling the KGOP is either bought off or being blackmailed so they're not going to do anything about it.

3. I agree on James Woods, screw JW... out his stupidness now

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
6. Although folks here like him for giving trump a hard time (me too), he is a mediahound and
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 12:20 PM
Jul 2018

likely a "bullshitter." I don't know whether he is helping the case against trump or not. Hope he is.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
35. He is an effective voice for justice.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 01:27 PM
Jul 2018

Considering that Fox is an entire network dedicated to injustice, having one voice that clearly speaks for justice seems fair enough.

All the rest of the media (except FOX) tries to be "fair" and doesn't reach the souls and hearts of many viewers. Avenatti is a welcome relief from the usual, so let him appear as much as possible.

At least HE knows how to tell a story so that people listen.

That's what rightwingers are so mad about.

He can tell a story so that people listen. That's a gift.

Most Democrats are too intellectual about politics. Avenatti gets real.

TheBlackAdder

(28,193 posts)
7. Yeah, but he's our bullshitter! Seriously, one year is considered overnight in the law profession.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 12:22 PM
Jul 2018

.

Patience. All things will come in time.

.

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
8. I agree with the OP
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 12:22 PM
Jul 2018

Avenattti is a lawyer representing a porn star and is doing nothing to advance progressive politics.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
36. Avenatti knows how to tell a story.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 01:30 PM
Jul 2018

Progressive politics presented by a bunch of political hacks is boring to many people.

That's why they voted for Trump. He presents things with a lot of drama and storytelling. Trump's stories are often lies, but at least they are dramatic and catch the attention of people with short attention spans who want quick, easy-to-understand answers.

Avenatti knows how to tell the story of the corruption and hypocrisy of conservatives. He is doing it well.

Go, Avenatti.

TBA

(825 posts)
9. I've been wondering about him.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 12:23 PM
Jul 2018

For one, immigration law is a specialty. You don’t learn it overnight.

Why would he jump into that arena?

I know many lawyers. They stick to what they know.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
14. How do you know he doesn't know anything about immigration law?
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 12:34 PM
Jul 2018

He is representing immigrants pro bono. Is that now enough?

dlk

(11,566 posts)
18. Avenatti can Consult with or Hire Immigration Specialists-The Best Ones
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 12:47 PM
Jul 2018

Attorneys do it all the time. He's also mentioned, on camera, he's already done this. Avenatti is in the public eye and under tremendous scrutiny. Why would he risk malpractice?

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
37. He has support staff and probably works with other lawyers.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 01:31 PM
Jul 2018

Plus he may be a quick study. He is probably very brilliant. Look at his work and education history.

Mike Nelson

(9,955 posts)
10. The disc...
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 12:26 PM
Jul 2018

… is probably a photo showing Stormy & Donnie did hook up... something not too unknown. It's likely worth more unseen. The Woods accusers might be looking for settlements.

I'd like to see more about "other women" contacting Avenatti about Crooked Donald.

 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
13. He's a fighter
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 12:34 PM
Jul 2018

Every time a real liberal fighter shows up, liberals get squeamish and flee. This is why we lose.

I don't want him to run for President, but I'm happy to have him fighting along with us.

 

PaulX2

(2,032 posts)
28. Show No Mercy
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 01:18 PM
Jul 2018

Republicans are almost all evil scum. I'll give Schmidt and McCain a pass but the rest need to be attacked until they begin to care about the country once again. Ok ok a few never Trumpers are barely human but their policies are still murder.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
39. Exactly!
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 01:43 PM
Jul 2018

He's a liberal fighter. It seems that the only way to get some kinds of liberals to speak up and fight is for them to do it against our own - and that's sickening.

Avenatti is brilliant, well spoken, and not afraid to tussle it out in the trenches. He's a breath of fresh air and exactly what we need.

I seriously wonder about people who try to talk him down. When is the last time a rand & file rethug said that their side was a bullshitter and should shut up? What harm has rethug bullshit ever done to their side with their voters?

dem4decades

(11,288 posts)
16. There's a reason Trump has never attacked Daniels. And Avenatti has knocked Trump off his game.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 12:36 PM
Jul 2018

He's fine with me. Let him do the guerrilla warfare and Mueller do the targeted strikes.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
43. He seems to know pretty instinctively what gets under Trump's skin.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 02:27 PM
Jul 2018

Trump doesn't have the guts that Avenatti has.

He works well in tandem with Mueller. Good point.

dameatball

(7,397 posts)
19. I think of Avenatti as just another front in a war being waged. How he coordinates his attacks is up
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 12:47 PM
Jul 2018

to him. The reasons for his attacks may change over time as new clients and information emerges. As long as he takes up Trump's legal resources and gives them new things to worry about, I'm good with his tactics.

dlk

(11,566 posts)
23. You're Confusing the Court of Public Opinion and the Mainstream Media with Trial Law
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 12:53 PM
Jul 2018

They work very differently. The legal system takes time and issues are rarely resolved in a speedy manner.

Oneironaut

(5,494 posts)
29. He's a showman, just like Trump. I do enjoy his constant trolling, however.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 01:18 PM
Jul 2018

What he should never be, though, is:

- Trusted
- A Democratic politician

Just enjoy the show he creates, but don’t think for a second he cares about anyone else or this country.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
34. +1000000000
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 01:24 PM
Jul 2018

A few Billion Avenattis....

I think he is a National Treasure....and what our Republic and Democracy needs to fight the Racist and Fascist Scumbag named Traitor Trump....

KT2000

(20,577 posts)
32. Love the guy - he fights
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 01:24 PM
Jul 2018

the discs do not really matter as they will have no effect. Everyone already knows he lies, sleeps around, abuses women, etc.
Avenatti is doing what he does to get under rump's skin and he is a master at that. He is miles ahead of rump. If necessary they will show up in the court case.

He is also helping with the separated families and encouraging other lawyers to do the same and speak up about this horror.

tRump must be caught on treason.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
33. "The republic is at stake?" Gimme a break.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 01:24 PM
Jul 2018

Avenatti has a job: advocating for his client/s, with their best interests at heart, with their consent, and within the bounds of the law.

He isn't playing a shell game, unlike the bullshitter in chief. But he is using all the tools available to him. Publicity is one: the tweet of the disc prior to Stormy's 60 Minutes interview was a warning, and it was heeded--the tangerine menace has not attacked her.

I'm glad he's on our side.

calguy

(5,307 posts)
40. He may or may not be a bullshitter ..I don't care
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 01:43 PM
Jul 2018

What I do know is his methods are very effective. Democratic leadership would be well served to study his style and copy it.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
41. Avenatti, unlike some here, is playing a long game, not just going with everything right away.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 01:44 PM
Jul 2018

Stormy his client, not interested in quietly settling for any amount apparently. Stormy wants maximus damage to trump. Avenatti doing regular short term damage to trump, and keeping powder dry to keep short term pressure on trump at least weekly. Avenatti trying to do maximum damage to trump.

Some want Mueller to go all out. Mueller seems to be playing long game also - seems we should be very thankful for that

gibraltar72

(7,503 posts)
46. Avenatti is an endurance racer.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 03:52 PM
Jul 2018

They learn to set up the next pass far in advance. Hit the right line, make the guy in front of them nervous make them make a mistake. Trump sees him in his rearview mirror. Believe Me.

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