Republicans finding that fascism and treachery aren't polling well

[babylonsister]

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/7/14/1780585/-Republicans-Finding-That-Fascism-And-Treachery-Aren-t-Polling-Well

Republicans finding that fascism and treachery aren't polling well
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Saturday July 14, 2018 · 7:43 PM EDT

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These people will vote.


Harry Enten, formerly a Senior Political Analyst at fivethirtyeight.com and now writing for CNN, picks up an interesting data point that may have been overlooked. He notes that the difficulty in predicting control of the House of Representatives lies in the fact that individual districts generally aren’t polled, except by partisan groups. When a Democratic or Republican pollster finds a result that he/she likes, they trumpet the poll with a great deal of fanfare and it finds its way to the usual suspects for dissemination to the general public. Otherwise, the poll gets deep-sixed and never sees the light of day. In this way such polls can serve as a barometer of the public mood, even if they are performed by partisan sources.

Here’s what’s been happening:

Four internal House polls released this week by groups aligned with Democratic or liberal causes. Conservative and Republican groups released no internal House polls this week. This is part of a pattern seen this year with left-wing groups putting out 93% of the partisan polls collected by FiveThirtyEight compared to only 7% by right-wing groups.

He notes that polls from Democrats and more left-wing groups typically exceed those put out by right-wing sources. But the variance this year is extraordinary and reminiscent of the polls prior to Democrats’ 2006 sweep of the House during the Bush administration. That year, Democrats were energized by Bush’s incompetence in Iraq and mishandling of the Hurricane Katrina disaster. During that cycle 77 percent of the released polls were done by Democratic leaning groups. In 2010, Democratic groups released a paltry 35 percent of the polls out there—with electoral results to match.

The Trump administration’s embrace of fascism, child abduction, callous indifference to the needs of ordinary Americans and corruption on a truly mammoth scale has rendered the Bush era almost a wistful memory for most Americans.

Enten concedes it is conceivable that the right-leaning groups “may be withholding good-looking internal polls for some unknown reason.” Yes, that is conceivable, just as an asteroid striking the Earth tomorrow is conceivable. But when was the last time a Republican polling outfit controlled its urge to blather about how the GOP was going to “stick it” to the “libs?” That’s how eyeballs are attracted. It’s eye-candy for salivating wingnuts who troll Fox News all day long. It’s their bread and butter. And of course there’s also the performance this year by Democrats in special elections.

The reality is they got nuthin.’

Enten allows for some “reversion to the mean” by November 6. But we are under 120 days out now. Trump’s trade war is turning into an economic boondoggle, and the bouncing stock market is not having its usual salutary “feel-good” effect on folks. Indictments are falling like dominoes as more and more Republicans are implicated as Russian assets, while Trump continues making good on his deal with Putin to sell American interests down the river. The GOP tax scam sank like a stone with the public. The Supreme Court is portending a disastrous reduction in Americans’ rights that could endure for generations, and people are scared about the future, with good reason, some for the first time in their lives.

Democrats will “crawl over glass” to vote, but there is no sign of “enthusiasm” on the Republican side.

Their silence speaks volumes.

[Mc Mike]

1. Go figure.

Don't have their 10%.

[RKP5637]

2. When is it time to just call out the GOP as "enemies of the State?" n/t

[Mc Mike]

7. The mistake was not having them under the 'Will Smith level' of scrutiny. Today's good. nt

[Mr.Bill]

13. Around 1980. n/t

[RKP5637]

16. Yep, a long time ago! n/t

[sandensea]

22. Conniving with Iran to hold the hostages over was a new low - but I think it started in '68.

LBJ made one of the biggest mistakes of the century (besides Vietnam) when he refused to call Nixon and Kissinger out for sabotaging the Paris Peace talks with North Vietnam.

He felt it would damage the Republic - but denial ain't just a river in Egypt, Lyndon. Once the GOPee knew they could get away with something that treasonous, it became their obvious go-to strategy to this day.

[Mc Mike]

24. They pulled this crap before, during, and after WWII, played footsie with the nazis.

They pulled this crap during Allen Dulles' backing of Dewey, when 'Dewey Defeats Truman' was a headline.

[sandensea]

28. Damn right.

They didn't call Prescott Bush 'Hitler's banker' for nothing: he raised money for the Nazis in Wall Street (where the idea was enthusiastically met), and then managed their Wall Street investments before, during, and, according to researchers, even after the war.

Truman should have never let him get away with it.

[AwakeAtLast]

25. JFK and RFK assassinations

Suddenly look different in light of recent revelations, too.

[sandensea]

29. Absolutely.

Mary Hoover's and George "some other" Bush's fingerprints are all over that one.

[aeromanKC]

21. Yesterday

And we shouldn't stop until tomorrow gets here.

[RKP5637]

23. The GOP is being treated too kindly. They are aiding an invasive force trying to undermine the

US.

[dalton99a]

3. Yep, GOTV and kick their asses to the curb

[LakeArenal]

4. Thanks... We need to be reminded every day..

I know it would be a lot, but this should be posted on every 2020 thread.

[Squinch]

5. Love that photo! I'm the one in the pink hat.

[MyOwnPeace]

11. I "thought" that was you!

Hope you continue to support them!

[Tatiana]

6. The midterms should represent a blue TSUNAMI.

Every polling model, most of the internal polls show Democrats competitive in districts that were won comfortably by Trump.

We should re-take Congress in a landslide. If this doesn't happen, we have to come to terms with the fact that the people who own, supervise and manage the election process (in Republican-controlled areas) will continue to steal elections until we forcibly stop them.

[RKP5637]

8. That's my worry, just how corrupted/rigged is the election system. I don't put anything past the

GOP, a bunch of cheats, liars and gangsters.

[Mr.Bill]

14. I'm worried there won't be an election. n/t

[pecosbob]

9. Maybe just an indicator that they now have the entire electoral process subverted

and no longer have to rely on polls or actually getting people to vote for them. The last election was all but declared for Clinton even before the vote. If the last election was just the initial run-out of a new wave of voter suppression/intimidation/disenfranchisement/manipulation this one will likely be worse. Nothing has been done to prevent foreign actors from penetrating our vote tallying systems.

[bucolic_frolic]

12. Our best bet is to

sew doubts and mischievous stories in the press, posts, message boards, facebook about the Republicans to make them doubt their own in their own minds. IOW, the same they are doing to us. We might offset just enough of their efforts to squeak in.

[RKP5637]

17. Yep, the GOP plays really dirty. The DNC has never learned that IMO. Times have changed, the

old strategies might not work against the new GOP filled with barbarians.

[mythology]

18. You do realize that the national polls taken right before the 2016 election were accurate right?

They were off by a point or two and were in fact closer than in 2012. As 538 said at the time and has continued to point out, the media overstated Clinton's chances and that she wasn't nearly as far ahead as people thought.

[weissmam]

10. its timeto use the term

TRAITOR = GOP

[Squinch]

15. Government of Putin.

[dalton99a]

20. +1.

[RKP5637]

19. Yes, something like that, short and catchy, something that sticks! n/t

[AndJusticeForSome]

26. Not satire?

Shocking!

[ProudMNDemocrat]

27. Of course, Facism and Treachery are not polling well because......

Americans will fight to retain all rights under the law as guaranteed by the US Constitution. Despite our political differences, we care about the rule of law, and that no one is above it. Not even the President of the United States.

[colsohlibgal]

30. Can't Wait To Vote This Year

I like our chances to flip the House big time, and possibly the Senate.

Sadly if we cannot stop his illegitimate President from filling another Supreme Court Member, the first of course stolen from Obama, we are in a pickle till that balance changes.