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KS-03: Mike Pence went Kansas and Sharice Davids was there to "greet" him. (Original Post) RandySF Jul 2018 OP
Isn't this who BS and AOC are campaigning against? mcar Jul 2018 #1
Yeah RandySF Jul 2018 #2
And, Tweeters are shutting down greenwald's Cha Jul 2018 #4
Brent Welder is an "our revolution" candidate.. Cha Jul 2018 #3
The our revolutaion gang is doing their damnest to divide Democrats. They have no desire to work still_one Jul 2018 #44
Yeah, unfortunately Cha Jul 2018 #49
+1000, it is very clear what their motives are. R B Garr Jul 2018 #51
Revolution gang lamsmy Jul 2018 #52
Big wing of many allied groups, little wing of one group. Hortensis Jul 2018 #53
And that was after Welder had a role in shaping the platform. lapucelle Jul 2018 #55
Yes. :) Examining actions can be very enlightening. Hortensis Jul 2018 #59
In addition, Welder has ostensibly sworn off corporate contributions, lapucelle Jul 2018 #60
Lol. Personally, as a donor to the DNC, I particularly Hortensis Jul 2018 #61
This! mcar Jul 2018 #62
Here's the coherent platform, all 55 pages of it, lapucelle Jul 2018 #56
I'm not sure that Brand New Congress should be considered a wing of the Democratic Party. lapucelle Jul 2018 #58
They don't, so they're not. They regard themselves Hortensis Jul 2018 #63
They are disgusting. NurseJackie Jul 2018 #54
because she didn't support sanders JI7 Jul 2018 #7
Yes!!! And it's WRONG!!! bernie go home to Vermont... Cortez...WAKE the F up!! Thekaspervote Jul 2018 #15
The other candidate supports Bernie. sheshe2 Jul 2018 #18
Why would a real democrat campaign against this lady? Gothmog Jul 2018 #41
there are FIVE people campaigning along with Davids for the chance to face the republican bigtree Jul 2018 #79
Sophistry kcr Jul 2018 #81
what arrogance bigtree Jul 2018 #82
Arrogance? kcr Jul 2018 #83
it's deceptive to portray that race as one between AOC and Davids bigtree Jul 2018 #84
There's some sophistry alright kcr Jul 2018 #85
I really like what I'm seeing of Sharice Davids! Cha Jul 2018 #5
So do I! brer cat Jul 2018 #6
I hope she Wins, brer! She and Deb Haaland would be two Native American Cha Jul 2018 #9
I had the strangest feeling while watching that video of her. Cracklin Charlie Jul 2018 #27
I also like Ms. David Gothmog Jul 2018 #42
Thanks, Goth! Cha Jul 2018 #48
Emily's List is now endorsing Sharice David. lapucelle Jul 2018 #8
Not too bright if he let jill stein's LIES lead Cha Jul 2018 #11
He wasn't sure who he was voting for when he got into the booth. lapucelle Jul 2018 #13
Sanders loyalist who 'struggled' to vote for Clinton to run for Congress in Kansas Cha Jul 2018 #19
He was a Sanders delegate from MO back in 2016. lapucelle Jul 2018 #17
Dear Goddess! sheshe2 Jul 2018 #20
Oh yeah, turns OUT he was Wrong. Cha Jul 2018 #24
I was a delegate to the National Convention and met people like this candidate Gothmog Jul 2018 #57
Have you seen this - DURHAM D Jul 2018 #22
Our Revolution sure can pick them NastyRiffraff Jul 2018 #26
Thanks for that.. I did just read.. he says his wife if from Cha Jul 2018 #29
He was a Bernie Buster. DURHAM D Jul 2018 #31
Yeah, he was.. Good to know about the freaking back turning.. he should be held Cha Jul 2018 #32
Welder cited stolen DNC emails as proof that the primary was rigged RandySF Jul 2018 #47
Boom RandySF Jul 2018 #12
... lapucelle Jul 2018 #14
This a-hole tried to raise money on the death of the KC police officers. nt DURHAM D Jul 2018 #23
It is time to give some more money to Emily's List Gothmog Jul 2018 #45
Anyone who admires Jill Stein is a *** in my book. These are the same assholes who said a vote for still_one Jul 2018 #46
K&R for Sharice! UtahLib Jul 2018 #10
Good luck - as they say, policy-wise "she's got all the boxes checked", and has an amazing... George II Jul 2018 #16
Love her background. sheshe2 Jul 2018 #21
Oh and BTW, she.. Cha Jul 2018 #35
Well I guess this is one thing sheshe2 Jul 2018 #36
And, what was that asshole's name in Cha Jul 2018 #37
I would love to see her win. sheshe2 Jul 2018 #39
Hope she catches on out there. America needs refreshing. oasis Jul 2018 #25
She's Fierce! Cha Jul 2018 #38
Super campaign ad. oasis Jul 2018 #40
Why are people attacking this real democrat? Gothmog Jul 2018 #69
Well, people like greenwald are attacking Sharice Cha Jul 2018 #70
Who cares what Greenwald thinks? Gothmog Jul 2018 #71
Exactly.. him and his Twitter clones. Cha Jul 2018 #72
Why is AOC campaigning against female candidates? Gothmog Jul 2018 #75
Wow! Glad the word is getting out, Goth! Cha Jul 2018 #76
I like this lady Gothmog Jul 2018 #78
I just LIKED it, too! Thank You, Goth! Cha Jul 2018 #87
k & r ehrnst Jul 2018 #28
She is... Mike Nelson Jul 2018 #30
K&R Jamaal510 Jul 2018 #33
K & R Iliyah Jul 2018 #34
This lady is a good Democrat Gothmog Jul 2018 #43
K&R radical noodle Jul 2018 #50
I like Sharice Davids Gothmog Jul 2018 #64
Kicked for visibility. RandySF Jul 2018 #65
Bazinga! George II Jul 2018 #66
I like this candidate Gothmog Jul 2018 #67
K & R Me. Jul 2018 #68
K&R betsuni Jul 2018 #73
This lady is an amazing candidate Gothmog Jul 2018 #74
Sorry but I think it's funny that Ocasio-Cortez is talking up women being elected in congress while Gothmog Jul 2018 #77
so she should only support women bigtree Jul 2018 #80
Like supporting Andrew Cuomo over Cynthia Nixon? oberliner Jul 2018 #86

still_one

(92,189 posts)
44. The our revolutaion gang is doing their damnest to divide Democrats. They have no desire to work
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 12:58 AM
Jul 2018

Last edited Mon Jul 16, 2018, 02:29 AM - Edit history (1)

within the Democratic party, and it is becoming clearer than ever what their intentions are.


This is noted, just like what they did in 2016



Cha

(297,196 posts)
49. Yeah, unfortunately
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 02:07 AM
Jul 2018

I had to see this coming from the beginning when AOC was trying to refight the primaries against Senator Tammy Duckworth.

It's only gotten worse and more obvious.

Mahalo, still_one

lamsmy

(155 posts)
52. Revolution gang
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 05:18 AM
Jul 2018

The wings of the Dem Party are splitting because there is no strong leadership at the core holding them together.

Different candidates are always going to push for the priorities that best reflect their very different districts. But the complete failure of the Dem leadership to bring the party together and present a coherent platform and strategy is a serious case of political malpractice. That the old guard has so fiercely defends their positions with no attempt at grooming the next generation of leaders or focusing on the future of the nation, is a abject failure of leadership.

Somebody, ANYBODY, needs to step up and start herding the cats.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
53. Big wing of many allied groups, little wing of one group.
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 06:27 AM
Jul 2018

You know, most Democratic Party blocs are allied on most issues, and almost all are strongly liberal and progressive.

If this little group who calling themselves Progressives could only ally and cooperate with all the others to get things done, it probably wouldn't always be a little group. Everyone wants us to somehow do more, and the promise to do so is very appealing.

But dissension is literally a defining characteristic of zealots, so that that never has been possible. Dissension first, always opponents who must be defeated before moving on to the ideals. And that means that in our nation's entirely history they've never made significant policy. All progressive advances are made by other progressives in spite of passionate opposition from zealots who claim they want the same thing, just...more and faster.

If case you aren't one of the who shares this fatal flaw, you really need to take a new look at the big allied faction of the Democratic Party and the little one and see which gets things done and which does not.

OR, skip the research and history books and just vote against anyone who promises to fight Democrats and vote for those who promise to use the power of the Democratic Party to make progressive advances happen.

When Brent Welder said he didn't know if he could vote for Hillary Clinton, that meant he subjugated our party's huge progressive agenda secondary to whatever else was going on in his head. Huge red warning sign.

lapucelle

(18,252 posts)
55. And that was after Welder had a role in shaping the platform.
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 09:50 AM
Jul 2018

Remember when Cornell West sat on the platform committee, refused to sign the final platform document, citing "the party's moral failures" and then endorsed Jill Stein?

West called Stein "the only progressive woman in the race" and Welder wanted a platform fight on the convention floor so he could "save Secretary Clinton from herself".

Just what we need...another hubris-driven man on the floor of the House whose mission is to save women from themselves by doing their thinking for them.




Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
59. Yes. :) Examining actions can be very enlightening.
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 11:14 AM
Jul 2018

There is a peculiar misogyny among SOME of those who identify Prog, certainly far from all of them.

But that label includes some really strange-bedfellows: combinations of genuine social left-winger Progs with the populists Sanders also drew to that label. Many of the latter we now know are a special mixture of socially conservative (!) and economically liberal. White supremacists, mostly male, who both oppose change and want progressive government social programs and opportunities -- for those like them, not others. And there's a whole bunch of misogyny in that group.

I very strongly suspect many who identify Prog haven't examined themselves or others in their bloc enough to understand the various goals and motivations.

Certainly, anyone who who could call Jill Stein the only progressive woman in the race was profoundly dishonest and hostile to Hillary and Democrats in general. And where'd that come from? Many observers have noted populist strains in West's pronouncements, not least his very active hostilities, including his problems with antisemitism. I'm guessing Stein's real draw for West was probably twofold: that she was a weapon to deploy against Democrats and that she posed absolutely no threat to male supremacy.

lapucelle

(18,252 posts)
60. In addition, Welder has ostensibly sworn off corporate contributions,
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 11:35 AM
Jul 2018

yet he still accepts money from

Industry lobbyists
The pharmaceutical industry
The banking and investment sector
The real estate sector

54% of his money comes from large donors; 89.3% of his money comes from out of state.

https://www.opensecrets.org/races/contributors?cycle=2018&id=KS03&spec=N

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
61. Lol. Personally, as a donor to the DNC, I particularly
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 11:42 AM
Jul 2018

enjoyed the intense hypocrisy and dishonor that Prog group displayed when they explained their plans to infiltrate the Democratic Party and operate from within its structure -- but without really considering themselves Democrats. (Yuck!)

It takes a lot of money to operate the party and provide the substantial benefits he's actively planning on taking, and my share was certainly not donated for faithless scoundrels to subvert. Of course they're not concerned with what ordinary people like me want. But I'm pretty sure that also goes for the party's big donors, whom they pretend to refuse to accept money from even as they plan to do just that.


mcar

(42,309 posts)
62. This!
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 12:17 PM
Jul 2018
Certainly, anyone who who could call Jill Stein the only progressive woman in the race was profoundly dishonest and hostile to Hillary and Democrats in general. And where'd that come from? Many observers have noted populist strains in West's pronouncements, not least his very active hostilities, including his problems with antisemitism. I'm guessing Stein's real draw for West was probably twofold: that she was a weapon to deploy against Democrats and that she posed absolutely no threat to male supremacy.

lapucelle

(18,252 posts)
56. Here's the coherent platform, all 55 pages of it,
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 10:02 AM
Jul 2018

so that all who never read it can peruse it at their leisure. Just because some people never bothered to read the platform doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

And while some in Democratic leadership may have failed in the leadership roles entrusted to them by the Party, that is certainly not true of all of them. It would be nice to see Booker and Harris assigned leadership roles so they can pick up the slack of anyone who has not followed through.

Oh, and welcome to DU!

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/papers_pdf/117717.pdf

lapucelle

(18,252 posts)
58. I'm not sure that Brand New Congress should be considered a wing of the Democratic Party.
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 10:20 AM
Jul 2018

They also run Republican and Independent candidates and here's what their founder and spokesman Corbin Trent had to say about the Democratic Party.

Theo: What is your relationship to the Democratic Party?

Corbin: Myself, personally? I have no relationship whatsoever. The organization has very little. We intend to run within their structures, and in their primaries, and we’re thankful that they’ve set up an infrastructure that’s going to allow candidates to run in primaries. But we think that the party has—a long time ago—stopped representing the needs of the American people.


Just because an organization is willing to exploit Democratic Party resources doesn't mean that they're a wing of the Party.

http://inthesetimes.com/article/20341/brand-new-congress-progressives-republican-party-democrat

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
63. They don't, so they're not. They regard themselves
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 12:17 PM
Jul 2018

as infiltrators for the purpose of subverting the resources of the Democratic Party for their own purposes. Corbin's own description would fit a parasitic invasion far more than a wing.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
54. They are disgusting.
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 08:36 AM
Jul 2018
The our revolutaion gang is doing their damnest to divide Democrats.
They are disgusting. I have nothing but contempt for ANYONE associated with that group. From the bottom to the VERY TOP, they are the WORST.

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
79. there are FIVE people campaigning along with Davids for the chance to face the republican
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 09:41 PM
Jul 2018

..in November.

It's sophistry to make like this is AOC against Davids.

It's AOC supporting a candidatre of like agenda and one that actually supported her own campaign.

Did ANY of the other candidates support AOC's bid? ANY of them?

Did Davids?? Why not?

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
82. what arrogance
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 10:17 PM
Jul 2018

...the word stands.

"...subtly deceptive reasoning or argumentation"

Sophistry.

Stick to writing your own posts.

kcr

(15,315 posts)
83. Arrogance?
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 10:27 PM
Jul 2018

I'm not the one going around making that claim just because people don't agree with me. You are.

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
84. it's deceptive to portray that race as one between AOC and Davids
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 10:47 PM
Jul 2018

...it's sophistry.

There are six Democrats competing for the chance to face the republican in the fall in that race, including another woman.

I imagine it may be someone's strategy to make the contest about a grudge match between AOC and Davids, but no one who's not in Davids' camp looks to be taking the bait.

kcr

(15,315 posts)
85. There's some sophistry alright
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 11:14 PM
Jul 2018

It's on your part, because no one is saying that. Your attempts to muddy the waters by bringing in the other people in the race also counts, by the way. WHO is trying to make it look like AOC is running in the race, now? Because I'm not seeing how they're relevant. They wouldn't be, if AOC wasn't sticking her nose in it in the first place.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
9. I hope she Wins, brer! She and Deb Haaland would be two Native American
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 08:35 PM
Jul 2018

women in Congress!

Deb Haaland’s primary win means she will likely be the first Native American woman in Congress

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/6/6/17433918/new-mexico-deb-haaland-first-native-american-woman-elected-congress

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
27. I had the strangest feeling while watching that video of her.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 09:23 PM
Jul 2018

I felt like I was seeing the future.

I may pay attention to this race in a neighboring state.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
48. Thanks, Goth!
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 02:02 AM
Jul 2018


Let's hope the BS & AOC candidate loses a 2nd time in a row.

I want her! Fierce!


Just FYI.. it's Sharice "Davids"


lapucelle

(18,252 posts)
8. Emily's List is now endorsing Sharice David.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 08:29 PM
Jul 2018

Sanders and AOC are stumping for Brand New Congress candidate Brent Welder who told The Guardian

"One of my biggest issues is getting corrupting influence of big money out of politics,” he said, “and I was attracted to the fact that [Green party candidate] Jill Stein was very dedicated to that cause, I will say, and I wasn’t afraid to look into the possibility of supporting her.”

He made clear that he did go door to door for Clinton and the rest of the Democratic ticket and decided to back her “when I got into the voting booth to actually vote”.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
11. Not too bright if he let jill stein's LIES lead
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 08:38 PM
Jul 2018

him around.

I will say, and I wasn’t afraid to look into the possibility of supporting her.”

Thanks, lapucelle!

lapucelle

(18,252 posts)
13. He wasn't sure who he was voting for when he got into the booth.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 08:47 PM
Jul 2018

Sounds indecisive and impulsive. I wonder why he was knocking on doors for the Democrat while he was secretly contemplating voting for the Green. Who does that?

Mahalo!!!!!!!

Cha

(297,196 posts)
19. Sanders loyalist who 'struggled' to vote for Clinton to run for Congress in Kansas
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 09:09 PM
Jul 2018

The district, covering suburban Kansas City and represented by Republican Kevin Yoder, was won by Hillary Clinton in 2016 and has long been viewed as a top Democratic target in the 2018 midterm elections. The district is prosperous and well educated and was represented by Democrat Dennis Moore for a decade before he retired in 2010.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/24/sanders-brent-welder-clinton-democrats-kansas-congress

I think I have the same article you linked from, lapucelle.

You know how I feel about all those who got so brainwashed from the Hillary hatemongering that they couldn't see the actual facts. And, here's one of them.. running in a District that was smart enough to go for Hillary in 2016!

lapucelle

(18,252 posts)
17. He was a Sanders delegate from MO back in 2016.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 09:07 PM
Jul 2018

He spoke at the platform committee and apparently wanted to take the TPP fight to the convention floor. He was quoted in the Washington Post as saying:

"We're trying to save Secretary Clinton from herself," said Brent Welder, a labor lawyer and Sanders delegate from Missouri.




https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/07/09/sanders-loses-on-trade-at-democratic-platform-meeting/?utm_term=.64d26a522f30

Cha

(297,196 posts)
24. Oh yeah, turns OUT he was Wrong.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 09:17 PM
Jul 2018

Arrogance and Ignorance.. not a good combination.

Thank You, lapucelle

Gothmog

(145,176 posts)
57. I was a delegate to the National Convention and met people like this candidate
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 10:02 AM
Jul 2018

Was this candidate part of the Sanders delegate planned stunt to boo Congressman John Lewis? The booing of Congressman John Lewis was a planned stunt by the Sanders delegates. I was told of this stunt by my whip 20 to 30 minutes before it happened.

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
22. Have you seen this -
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 09:14 PM
Jul 2018



Welder yelling at Tim Kaine at the convention. What an ass.

Earlier today I sent money to Sharice when I saw that Bernie and Ocasio-Cortez were trying to sabotage her election.

Sharice is Native American, female and LGBTQ. Bernie can't resist an opportunity to go after her as it rings all his bells. Not sure what is wrong with Ocasio-Cortez but I am totally over her.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
26. Our Revolution sure can pick them
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 09:19 PM
Jul 2018

Pulling for you, Sharice!

As for Ocasio-Cortez, I thought I could like her, since so many (non-Bernie) people said she seemed like a descent candidate. Turns out she isn't.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
29. Thanks for that.. I did just read.. he says his wife if from
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 09:29 PM
Jul 2018

District 3 so he "..doesn't see a problem".

I didn't know that Welder yelled at Tim Kaine at the DNC Convention.. what was his problem, Durham?







DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
31. He was a Bernie Buster.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 09:37 PM
Jul 2018

I assume that eventually the film of him turning his back on Hillary and walking out of the convention will show up.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
32. Yeah, he was.. Good to know about the freaking back turning.. he should be held
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 09:40 PM
Jul 2018

accountable for that bullshit.

RandySF

(58,799 posts)
47. Welder cited stolen DNC emails as proof that the primary was rigged
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 01:19 AM
Jul 2018

St. Louis resident and Sanders delegate Brent Welder took a dimmer view of how the convention unfolded. He said the day before the convention started, Sanders supporters “got documented proof that the entire primary had been rigged and the chairwoman resigned in scandal.” The fact that Clinton still received the nomination, Welder said, showed that things didn’t go very well for Sanders or his supporters.


http://news.stlpublicradio.org/post/trail-missouri-delegates-weigh-clintons-impact-and-down-ballot#stream/0

still_one

(92,189 posts)
46. Anyone who admires Jill Stein is a *** in my book. These are the same assholes who said a vote for
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 01:02 AM
Jul 2018

"Al Gore is a vote for George Bush"


George II

(67,782 posts)
16. Good luck - as they say, policy-wise "she's got all the boxes checked", and has an amazing...
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 09:06 PM
Jul 2018

....background and life story. Great that she's working to help her own people as an attorney on Native American reservations.

Imagine that after more than two centuries if she win's she'd be only the first Native American woman elected to Congress?

On the other hand, I can't see how any Democrat could support a candidate who claimed two years ago that he "struggled to vote for Hillary Clinton." That's what one of her primary opponents, Brent Welder, said.

sheshe2

(83,752 posts)
36. Well I guess this is one thing
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 10:49 PM
Jul 2018

...we can thank don for. He is getting Native women/women out to run and to vote.


Excellent Cha.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
37. And, what was that asshole's name in
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 11:03 PM
Jul 2018

in Massachusetts? Oh yeah, scott brown

Yes, their ugly Racist Slurs Backfired! Which has happened all over the country in different Ways, Shapes, and Forms!



She's Fierce!

Cha

(297,196 posts)
70. Well, people like greenwald are attacking Sharice
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 06:04 PM
Jul 2018

because they say Emily's List who has endorsed her is "establishment".

Thanks for the tweet, Goth!

Gothmog

(145,176 posts)
71. Who cares what Greenwald thinks?
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 06:10 PM
Jul 2018

The man works for Russia which is why he is so popular on JPR

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
80. so she should only support women
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 09:43 PM
Jul 2018

..or should she support those who share her agenda. Those who supported her own bid for Congress, for example.

Did Davids support AOC's campaign??

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