Why indict the Russians NOW? Has a trap been set?

[kennetha]

With all the detail the CIA/FBI put into the latest indictment, the Russians are now officially on notice that the US has penetrated deep into their operations. Alarm bells must be going off all over the Kremlin ... as per the following article


https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2018/07/15/putin-must-wonder-what-else-america-knows-about-russia/?utm_term=.c4bd5233e7d0

Putin’s elite spy world has been penetrated by U.S. intelligence. That’s the implication of the extraordinarily detailed 29-page indictment of 12 Russian military intelligence (GRU) officers handed up by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigators on Friday. The 11-count charge includes names, dates, unit assignments, the GRU’s use of “X-agent” malware, its bitcoin covert funding schemes and a wealth of other tradecraft.

Putin must be asking himself: How did the Americans find out all these facts? What other operations have been compromised? And how much else do they know?

Maybe alarm bells are going off in Trump's "mind" too ... but then again he's more ego than mind, so maybe not.

But here's the million dollar question, why do something that would set off alarms in the Kremlin just as Trump and Putin are about to hold a private tete-a-tete? That can't have been an accident.

If, as I suspect, Trump has been turned and if, as I also suspect, the CIA and FBI believe that he has been turned, then the timing is even curiouser. Could be that they are purposely laying a trap for Putin and Trump. Perhaps they plan to bug the Trump/Putin tete-a-tete, with the hope of catching Donald and Vlad in the act of coordinating their stories. Putin might be too smart to fall for that one though. He's supposedly a master spy himself. But at some level Donald must be in an utter state of panic. And who knows what he will say to his master and handler in his panicked state? Things are about to get interesting.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Mueller is laying the groundwork for indicting Americans

by setting out in great detail how the hacking was done from the Russian end; I'm sure he knows very well that the Russians will never be extradited or tried. But by explaining how the hacking was done he's setting the stage for indicting the Americans who used the results of the Russian hack. Yes, it's getting very interesting.

[SeattleVet]

6. THIS!!!!

Exactly what I told a friend this weekend. If you read the indictment it is clear that this is foundational groundwork, and there will be new indictments of those that facilitated and conspired with these characters.

[emulatorloo]

7. +1

[Achilleaze]

19. + 2

[renegade000]

2. Bet Finnish intel (SUPO) would love to get the goods too...

They are certainly no fans of Putin, and would love it if we owed them one, especially in the mutual fight against Russian expansionism.

[kennetha]

3. That would be so sweet!

But I assume Putin will now assume the worst and be very much on his guard.

[renegade000]

5. Yeah, not getting my hopes up...

But the games are afoot for sure!

[Blue_true]

13. I agree, the Russian FSB will be on it's toes.

Expect bizzarre changes to the meeting location, but if that happens, US Intelligence will know that bugs have been swept and that there was a reason for the sweep by the FSB. This may turn out to be a very interesting game of cat and mouse.

[ecstatic]

4. Maybe trump himself has "flipped"

and will be wearing a wire to save his own ass! That would be a fucked up deal, btw.

[oasis]

8. It might as well be a trap because Trump&co are shitting themselves.

[Kablooie]

9. They've known about it since before June 2016

Here's a technical June 2016 article from the Crowdstrike Security company explaining most of what Rosenstein revealed.

https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bears-midst-intrusion-democratic-national-committee/

[Blue_Roses]

11. I bookmarked this page

Lots of good reading there. Thanks!😀

[gibraltar72]

10. Predicate crime.

While you don't have to have a crime to have a conspiracy. It makes a nice base to build from.

[BigmanPigman]

12. I have wondered if tRump is already a Russian agent.

My family was discussing this possibility tonight. He certainly does not love, honor or respect America so he could be a Russian agent, especially after this meeting with his Russian handler.

[kennetha]

14. The Russians have been working to turn Trump since the 80's

I think they succeeded in the 90's when no American bank would give him any money. His recruitment as a Russian asset is no doubt the single greatest achievement in the history of spy craft.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

15. You aren't the only one who suspects this:

Suppose we are currently making the same mistake we made at the outset of this drama — suppose the dark crevices of the Russia scandal run not just a little deeper but a lot deeper. If that’s true, we are in the midst of a scandal unprecedented in American history, a subversion of the integrity of the presidency. It would mean the Cold War that Americans had long considered won has dissolved into the bizarre spectacle of Reagan’s party’s abetting the hijacking of American government by a former KGB agent. It would mean that when Special Counsel Robert Mueller closes in on the president and his inner circle, possibly beginning this summer, Trump may not merely rail on Twitter but provoke a constitutional crisis.

And it would mean the Russia scandal began far earlier than conventionally understood and ended later — indeed, is still happening. As Trump arranges to meet face-to-face and privately with Vladimir Putin later this month, the collusion between the two men metastasizing from a dark accusation into an open alliance, it would be dangerous not to consider the possibility that the summit is less a negotiation between two heads of state than a meeting between a Russian-intelligence asset and his handler.

Long article here: https://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/07/trump-putin-russia-collusion.html

[BigmanPigman]

16. I am glad to know I am not being an

alarmist but also terrified that I might be correct.

[Richard D]

18. I just finished reading this.

Amazing analysis everyone should read.

[orangecrush]

17. Why this doesn't have hundreds of,recs

is beyond me.

[Scurrilous]

20. K&R

[kennetha]

21. Looks like I pretty much nailed it

Trump basically fell into the trap and all but declared his allegiance to Mother Russia.