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NRaleighLiberal

(60,008 posts)
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 09:04 AM Jul 2018

We, as a species, violate this - "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

Remarkable quote by George Santayana

It is why we as a culture, people, species spiral around and around and make the same mistakes over and over.

It defines the trump so-called presidency (illegal, and hacked of course). It certainly defines conservatives and republicans these days.

All of the trump putin bullshit reminds me so much of the quote.

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We, as a species, violate this - "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." (Original Post) NRaleighLiberal Jul 2018 OP
yup... thus my sigline since 2001. I can't think of a more important quote for these times hlthe2b Jul 2018 #1
Ah - well done! I've actually thought this for a long time.... NRaleighLiberal Jul 2018 #2
Such as Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #3
Russians hacking the election are a far larger problem - let's focus on the true enemy here. NRaleighLiberal Jul 2018 #5
Transfer Stein's vote to Hillary Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #9
No argument from me...a different from of hacking NRaleighLiberal Jul 2018 #10
And...... Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2018 #4
It isn't just us, and isn't just now - it is a flaw in many, many people through the ages NRaleighLiberal Jul 2018 #6
I know Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2018 #7
We all know Timmygoat Jul 2018 #8
putin will want those bdamomma Jul 2018 #11
Uh, no. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2018 #12

NRaleighLiberal

(60,008 posts)
2. Ah - well done! I've actually thought this for a long time....
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 09:10 AM
Jul 2018

in my former corporate life in big pharma, all I observed was people repeating the same mistakes over and over and expecting different results. I did years of Lean Sigma training - to audiences I knew would never really adapt to using the methods to improve their processes.

So frustrating. As a gardener, I strive to learn from each season and make little improvements each year. So far so good - been doing it for over 30 years!

NRaleighLiberal

(60,008 posts)
5. Russians hacking the election are a far larger problem - let's focus on the true enemy here.
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 09:57 AM
Jul 2018

Hillary won the popular vote big. My belief is she won the electoral vote as well (if the hacking hadn't occurred).

I was an early Bernie supporter and vigorously voted for Hillary - as did all I knew who were in the same boat. There are bigger fish to fry.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,396 posts)
4. And......
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 09:21 AM
Jul 2018

Those who DO remember the past have to stand by helplessly and watch OTHER people around them repeat it.

Timmygoat

(779 posts)
8. We all know
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 10:23 AM
Jul 2018

That Putin follows all of the US news. I Trump does not say a work about the 12 russians named by Mueller as meddling in our election, then Putin knows how weak Trump is!
But I am sure he already knew. I would love to see what Putin has on Trump.

bdamomma

(63,803 posts)
11. putin will want those
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 10:41 AM
Jul 2018

sanctions to be dissolved and tRump is stupid enough to end the sanctions. We all know Putin owns tRump.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
12. Uh, no.
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 10:43 AM
Jul 2018

The problem isn't that people don't understand that quote. It's that they think they're unique. That they're a special circumstance. That the bad things that happened to other people can't happen to them.

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