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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI wish Senator Henry "Scoop" Jackson (WA) was alive to see this travesty.
Anyone remember him? Liberal Democratic senator from Washington state who was very hawkish on national security and defense matters.
gohuskies
(1,156 posts)He was my senator for many years until he passed away. A great American patriot who would be appalled at the open treason the Orange turd is committing in full view of the world.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)My hatred of anything Russian is off the charts right now. We should be kicking ALL of their diplomats
out right now and closing their consulates and the embassy.
I am realizing that I am more of an old school neoconservative that I previously thought.
tirebiter
(2,536 posts)There's nothing old school about neoconservatism.
https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Project_for_the_New_American_Century
Project for the New American Century (Wiki)
The PNAC was co-founded by William Kristol and Robert Kagan in 1997, with roots in the 1992 Pentagon. PNAC's original 25 signatories were an eclectic mix of academics and neo-conservative politicians, several of whom have subsequently found positions in the presidential administration of George Walker Bush. PNAC is noteworthy for its focus on Iraq, a preoccupation that began before Bush became president and predates the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. In 1998, the group wrote a letter to President Bill Clinton, Mississippi Senator Trent Lott (then Senate Majority Leader) and Newt Gingrich (then Speaker of the House of Representatives), demanding a harder line against Iraq. By then, the group had grown in numbers, adding individuals such as former Reagan-era U.N. Ambassador Jeane J. Kirkpatrick, and long-time Washington cold warrior/pro-LikudRichard N. Perle.
According to William Rivers Pitt, "Two events brought PNAC into the mainstream of American government: the disputed election of George W. Bush and the attacks of September 11th. When Bush assumed the Presidency, the men who created and nurtured the imperial dreams of PNAC became the men who run the Pentagon, the Defense Department and the White House. When the Towers came down, these men saw, at long last, their chance to turn their White Papers into substantive policy."
Several original PNAC members, including Cheney, Khalilzad and the Bush family, have ties to the oil industry. Many other members have been long-time fixtures in the U.S. military establishment or Cold War "strategic studies," including Elliott Abrams, Dick Cheney, Paula Dobriansky, Aaron Friedberg, Frank Gaffney, Fred C. Ikle, Peter W. Rodman, Stephen P. Rosen, Henry S. Rowen, Donald H. Rumsfeld, John R. Bolton, Vin Weber, and Paul Dundes Wolfowitz. It should not be surprising, therefore, that while the group devotes inordinate attention to Iraq, its most general focus has been on a need to "re-arm America." The prospect of mining oil riches may explain part of the group's focus on Iraq, but this motivation has been buried under the rhetoric of national security and the need for strong national defense. (and more...)
Whereas the Senate Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities which became known as the Church Committee was born out of Watergate and what came out about Nixon attempting to corrupt the FBI and CIA. It did have Barry Goldwater and Howard Baker but it also had Gary Hart and Walter Mondale as members.
Neoconservatism was designed to replace liberal democracy as foreign policy. The designers have split on backing Trump but I'd suggest they're not a bright alternative.
I too was and still am an antisoviet liberal. I was living in West Germany when the Wall was being built and the Cuban Missile Crisis occurred and it sorta sunk in.
yonder
(9,663 posts)Both him and Idaho's Senator Frank Church would be up in arms about this.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)jalan48
(13,859 posts)awful when it came to that war.