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Anthony Kennedy must WITHDRAWAL his resignation effective immediately. (Original Post) Firebrand Gary Jul 2018 OP
He's compromised, too. Tatiana Jul 2018 #1
I agree he should. elleng Jul 2018 #2
It's not Trump's call to accept it or not. onenote Jul 2018 #9
OK, I like it! elleng Jul 2018 #10
I'm not aware of a precedent one way or the other FBaggins Jul 2018 #17
I don't know of any case either, but as a matter of simple logic, the president has no say onenote Jul 2018 #18
There's no doubt that a president can't force a retirement... FBaggins Jul 2018 #19
So do you think Al Franken couldn't have reversed his resignation decision? onenote Jul 2018 #21
You are correct about Jan 2 but Franken's case is different FBaggins Jul 2018 #23
he is a traitor mshasta Jul 2018 #3
Not gonna happen. dameatball Jul 2018 #4
he authored citizens united opinion AlexSFCA Jul 2018 #5
Co-conspirator C_U_L8R Jul 2018 #6
He's complicit and corrupt I believe. Will never happen, it's instrumental to their play and a... Anon-C Jul 2018 #7
Catholics? Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #11
No...and I wasn't trying to single out Catholics per say, and yes, Anon-C Jul 2018 #15
Complicit JenniferJuniper Jul 2018 #8
Longshot... but more likely rescue plan lapfog_1 Jul 2018 #12
Satan doesn't give refunds when you sell your soul Takket Jul 2018 #13
When the movie comes out about this administration Kennedy will be shown as a part of the trump wasupaloopa Jul 2018 #14
Movie? We'd need a Netflix series with more episodes than the entire X-Files... Firebrand Gary Jul 2018 #16
Pssst he's in on it jcgoldie Jul 2018 #20
The whole damn party is in on it!!!! Initech Jul 2018 #24
Lol. cwydro Jul 2018 #22

onenote

(42,700 posts)
9. It's not Trump's call to accept it or not.
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 09:32 PM
Jul 2018

Kennedy's retirement letter sets an effective date of July 31. Before that date he can unilaterally withdraw his resignation. After that date, he can't stay on even if Trump was inclined to allow it (which he wouldn't). But now that a replacement has been nominated -- one that Kennedy is personally close to -- he's not changing his mind.

FBaggins

(26,733 posts)
17. I'm not aware of a precedent one way or the other
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 01:53 PM
Jul 2018

Can you point to a federal judge who formally announced a retirement and then retracted it?

onenote

(42,700 posts)
18. I don't know of any case either, but as a matter of simple logic, the president has no say
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 02:52 PM
Jul 2018

in a judge's decision to retire or not retire.

I doubt anyone would question the fact that a federal judge, with lifetime tenure, cannot be forced to retire by a president. By the same token, a president could not refuse to "accept" a federal judge's retirement and thus force the judge to remain on the bench. As for whether a justice's retirement can be withdrawn before it becomes effective -- well, the concept of an effective date would have little meaning if a justice couldn't reverse their decision before it became effective. (For what its worth, the general rule for federal employees who give notice of their retirement or resignation is that they can change their minds up to the close of business of the date on which the retirement/resignation was to become effective).

Finally, here's a little known fact: Supreme Court Justices never really fully "retire". They continue to receive a full salary. That salary is either the amount they were receiving when they retired or, if they continue to engage in judicial activities, may get the salary for the position including any increases in that salary. Under federal law, "any retired Chief Justice of the United States or Associate Justice of the Supreme Court may be designated and assigned by the Chief Justice of the United States to perform such judicial duties in any circuit, including those of a circuit justice, as he is willing to undertake." So in theory, Roberts could ask Kennedy to sit as a court of appeals judge, although Kennedy could decline if he so wished. 28 USC 294, 371.

FBaggins

(26,733 posts)
19. There's no doubt that a president can't force a retirement...
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 06:19 PM
Jul 2018

... nor reject one that he doesn’t like.

But neither statement impacts the open question of whether a judge can reverse a retirement announcement that was made with an effective date. They can announce as far as a year in advance and start the replacement process. I don’t think they can holler “just kidding!” and undo a delivered retirement notice.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
21. So do you think Al Franken couldn't have reversed his resignation decision?
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 06:27 PM
Jul 2018

He first stated on December 7 that he would be resigning in the coming weeks. Tina Smith was announced as his replacement on December 13. On December 20, Franken announced that his resignation would become effective January 2.

So when did Franken's decision become irreversible as a legal matter? I say January 2.

FBaggins

(26,733 posts)
23. You are correct about Jan 2 but Franken's case is different
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 07:19 PM
Jul 2018

He didn’t actually submit a formal resignation until Jan 2nd.

Further complicating things is that state law controls Senate vacancies and there could be differences in how it would work if he had formally retired.

In Kennedy’s case, he could have announced from the bench his intent to retire at a given point and later changed his mind... but that isn’t what happened. He submitted a formal notice (otherwise Trump couldn’t appoint someone yet).

If it were otherwise, judges could reject their replacements by changing their minds.

Anon-C

(3,430 posts)
7. He's complicit and corrupt I believe. Will never happen, it's instrumental to their play and a...
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 09:26 PM
Jul 2018

... tremendous pay-off to conservative Catholic groups with even more political sway.

Anon-C

(3,430 posts)
15. No...and I wasn't trying to single out Catholics per say, and yes,
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 09:44 PM
Jul 2018

Baptists and other evangelicals are just as invested, but what political analysis (even from the hip) is not served by discussing real people, real polities and actual centers of power.

Alito, Gorsuch and Kavanaugh; that's a third of the court.

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
12. Longshot... but more likely rescue plan
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 09:35 PM
Jul 2018

McCain and one of either Corker or Flake must switch to Independent and caucus with the Democratic party... thereby flipping the Senate (McCain would probably need to make the trip to give this, his final vote).

Then the Senate opens a real investigation into Trump with real witnesses and under oath, etc.

Hopefully the House and Senate both flip this fall... then impeachment starts in January... 67 votes in the Senate are going to be difficult but maybe with a real Senate inquiry along with Mueller probe... we can impeach and convict the traitor.

At least Senate could stop the GOP agenda about stacking the courts, etc.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
14. When the movie comes out about this administration Kennedy will be shown as a part of the trump
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 09:36 PM
Jul 2018

putin cabal.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
20. Pssst he's in on it
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 06:24 PM
Jul 2018

He negotiated his law clerk to be his successor and his son ran the Deutsche bank that loaned Trump over a billion $ FFS.

Initech

(100,068 posts)
24. The whole damn party is in on it!!!!
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 09:38 PM
Jul 2018

And Mitch McConnell knew it was coming and allowed it to happen!

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