I wouldn't want to be one of those counting on a pardon

[JohnnyRingo]

Including Cohen, Manafort, Flynn, and I imagine Don JR. If Donald Trump is no longer president there will be no mass pardons for his minions who helped the Russians swing an election. They know who they are.

There have to be a slew of Washington insiders and campaign staff members considering either ratting out higher-ups for leniency or looking into Siberian real estate opportunities. The mobster rule is that if you don't turn on someone, they'll turn on you.

[dawg day]

1. And I'm starting to think he could be forced out

by the GOP... Forcing him to resign, saying it's about his health. And rushed out the exit before he can get the pardons signed.

We'll see. Nixon's remaining support crashed pretty quickly that last summer...
Of course, for some INSANE reason, Trump has far, far greater support among the GOP than Nixon (who won in an historic landslided in 72) ever did.

Trump is now claiming he has higher GOP poll numbers than Lincoln did. (He must think they had polls back then.)

[tonyt53]

2. But then we will have to deal with Pence. He will pardon them too, then pray for them.

[JohnnyRingo]

3. But then...

Pence would presumably have to pardon Kushner and others in the Trump clan just before he runs for his first full term. By then it may not be wise to be seen as running plays for Trump. Pence will owe him nothing.