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vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 12:25 AM Jul 2018

As hard as it is. We might be calling our own loved ones traitors

I know a lot of people here have that one father or cousin that is so far right that they'll do anything to defend their cheeto overlord.

But at this point, if your loved ones or friends still back him. You might have to start calling your own traitors as well. Harsh reality to face when it's your own blood, but I think we've hit that moment.

I know my own father is a heavy tRump lover along with my cousin, and so are many of my friends. And tonight after reading kost of their comments on Facebook I had to tell them they are following a traitors path and I can't associate myself with the likes of those who turn on their own country like tRump. And this was a lot of thought I had to give before doing it and honestly this was the hardest thing I had to do and finally cut ties with them. Even my father who I've always detested, but since forgiven for him leaving my mom and I. But this was it.

Sadly this is America. I think we just have to face we are going to have to pick our freedom and country over loved ones who will continue to support our traitor in chief.

Much love and keep strong everyone.

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As hard as it is. We might be calling our own loved ones traitors (Original Post) vercetti2021 Jul 2018 OP
It happened in the Civil War. roamer65 Jul 2018 #1
As if 2016 didn't already do that vercetti2021 Jul 2018 #2
To quote Barry Goldwater. roamer65 Jul 2018 #4
I've seen what we're going thru referred to as a Cold Civil War RandomAccess Jul 2018 #20
I have no relationship with my sister due to Trump and her husband Moostache Jul 2018 #3
Like casualties of war vercetti2021 Jul 2018 #7
I hate to bring up the Civil war, but... bitterross Jul 2018 #5
You're right vercetti2021 Jul 2018 #8
Some of our Founding Fathers had relatives who sided with England. BigmanPigman Jul 2018 #6
Yes, about 1/3 of the colonies were loyalists. roamer65 Jul 2018 #9
It would help if they stopped ThoughtCriminal Jul 2018 #10
Insults are the best tells of argument losing vercetti2021 Jul 2018 #14
Sorry about all your relatives who Cha Jul 2018 #11
Always that one friend vercetti2021 Jul 2018 #15
yeah, there comes a point Cha Jul 2018 #17
Yeah zero tolerance from me as well vercetti2021 Jul 2018 #18
There Was a Thread Late Last Week Leith Jul 2018 #12
Doesn't surprise me vercetti2021 Jul 2018 #16
I know a co-worker who will say "If it stops abortion, good!" RhodeIslandOne Jul 2018 #13
My brother is an idiot. Duppers Jul 2018 #19
Thankfully most of my family (55% Republicans) have come to despise Trump. All the Dems obviously LincolnRossiter Jul 2018 #21

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
1. It happened in the Civil War.
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 12:27 AM
Jul 2018

Whole families torn apart.

Just imagine the suffering the signatories to the Declaration Of Independence endured.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
2. As if 2016 didn't already do that
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 12:28 AM
Jul 2018

This will further drive families apart. It took me this long, but my patience ran dry after tonight.

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
4. To quote Barry Goldwater.
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 12:40 AM
Jul 2018

“Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice.”

I will be excommunicating as needed as well.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
20. I've seen what we're going thru referred to as a Cold Civil War
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 09:05 PM
Jul 2018

and more and more it shows itself to be just that.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
3. I have no relationship with my sister due to Trump and her husband
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 12:31 AM
Jul 2018

She chooses to support and defend Trump and I choose to deal with it as if she has died. I HAD a sister, and 4 nieces and nephews once...then Trump was elected and my racist Brother-in-law showed his true stripes and now my family is less extended than it was.

I do not see a reconciliation on the horizon either....perhaps when our parents die, but I imagine a lot MORE strife then as well...

We cannot choose our family members, but when they choose others and forsake the values they were raised on, our family can choose to leave us.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
7. Like casualties of war
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 12:45 AM
Jul 2018

Except no one died. They chose to be this way and chose to put a treasonous bastard over country first. It really hurts too, in my heart it hurts to cut off loved ones. But eventually it just isn't worth it. My cousin who actually praised kids being locked up was the first to go. I couldn't believe she was defending that.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
5. I hate to bring up the Civil war, but...
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 12:41 AM
Jul 2018

Families divided over what was right and wrong then. This is no different really. Trump is siding with our enemy and giving them aid and comfort. Those who support him and do not acknowledge this are complicit in the treason. Just like those who took up arms against the Union were traitors.

There is no grey area left here.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
8. You're right
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 12:48 AM
Jul 2018

No grey here at all. Either they know or too brainwashed to know. If they are willing to side with Benedict cheeto, then so be it. We'll be on the right side of history.

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
9. Yes, about 1/3 of the colonies were loyalists.
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 12:48 AM
Jul 2018

Many of them left and settled in what is now southern Ontario.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,046 posts)
10. It would help if they stopped
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 12:58 AM
Jul 2018

Calling everyone who does not support corruption, treason, and bigotry names like "Snowflakes", "libtards" and most ironically "traitors".




vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
14. Insults are the best tells of argument losing
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 01:29 AM
Jul 2018

I welcome being called whatever, I laugh and tell them. You won no argument with name calling. It shows you're just as stupid as the other guy.

Cha

(296,868 posts)
11. Sorry about all your relatives who
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 12:58 AM
Jul 2018

Last edited Tue Jul 17, 2018, 01:41 AM - Edit history (1)

are suckered by the lure of the racist asshole trump to the point of treason. Sounds like Hyperbole but NOT.

I feel lucky in that respect.. All the loved ones I have are fully aware of what a giant malignant cancer he is on the world.

I had one friend of 23 years who told me after the election that he voted for trump and he started regurgitating his hatemonger talking points about President Obama.. and I said that's it.. that's the Deal Breaker. Over. I haven't heard from him so I guess he's still a brainwashed idiot. he likes the tax cuts and willing to overlook everything else.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
15. Always that one friend
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 01:32 AM
Jul 2018

Can't save them, let them fester in their own self stupidity and learn the hard way. But I am lucky the majority of my friends and family are very liberal as well. But I have had a lot of patience for them and tonight was it. They support treason, so I can't put up with it

Cha

(296,868 posts)
17. yeah, there comes a point
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 01:44 AM
Jul 2018

for most of us. As far as the Fraud is concerned there was/is zero tolerance for me.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
18. Yeah zero tolerance from me as well
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 01:47 AM
Jul 2018

Living in Texas makes a bit more harder. They surround me and yes I've been getting into more shouting matches lately from assholes in trucks. Ironic that I own a truck as well. So I guess it's one asshole yelling at another asshole.

Leith

(7,808 posts)
12. There Was a Thread Late Last Week
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 01:00 AM
Jul 2018

Where several posters told their stories on how they no longer spoke to relatives because of their support for TRE45ON. It was heartbreaking.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
16. Doesn't surprise me
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 01:38 AM
Jul 2018

Lot of families split up from this man, it's about to get worse. It took me this long to finally cut off family

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
19. My brother is an idiot.
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 03:20 PM
Jul 2018

I doubt if he yet knows he's a traitor.

We think of each other as idiots. I'm not moved by that but he is angry.

LincolnRossiter

(560 posts)
21. Thankfully most of my family (55% Republicans) have come to despise Trump. All the Dems obviously
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 09:20 PM
Jul 2018

And most of the Republicans. But my brother's in-laws, whom I have always personally liked, just won't let go. I hosted his father-in-law on my ship as a young Ensign 10 years ago. Genuinely nice guy. But I won't have any more dealings with Trumpkins.

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