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babylonsister

(171,042 posts)
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 08:03 AM Jul 2018

Trump's 'Missing DNC Server' Is Neither Missing Nor a Server

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-missing-dnc-server-is-neither-missing-nor-a-server?ref=home

Trump’s ‘Missing DNC Server’ Is Neither Missing Nor a Server
The president can spout conspiracy theories all he wants. But the DNC turned over all its key data to the FBI after it got hacked. And that info wasn’t stored on a single server.
Kevin Poulsen
07.16.18 9:58 PM ET


Donald Trump turns to right-wing conspiracy theories when he’s cornered, and he was cornered on Monday. Standing feet away from Vladimir Putin at a press conference following their Helsinki tete-a-tete, a reporter challenged Trump to condemn Putin for Russia’s election interference, “in front of the world.”Instead, the world watched as the President of the United States took Putin’s side against his own Justice Department and his own intelligence agencies, and launched into a rambling discourse about Hillary Clinton’s emails and a supposedly missing DNC server that hides the truth about Putin’s innocence.

“You have groups that are wondering why the FBI never took the server. Why didn’t they take the server? Where is the server, I want to know, and what is the server saying?”


The server is saying shut up.


The “server” Trump is obsessed with is actually 140 servers, most of them cloud-based, which the DNC was forced to decommission in June of 2016 while trying to rid its network of the Russian GRU officers working to help Trump win the election, according to the figures in the DNC’s civil lawsuit against Russia and the Trump campaign. Another 180 desktop and laptop computers were also swapped out as the DNC raced to get the organization back on its feet and free of Putin’s surveillance.

It’s true that the FBI doesn’t have the DNC’s computer hardware. Agents didn’t sweep into DNC headquarters, load up all the equipment and leave Democrats standing stunned beside empty desks and dangling cables. There’s a reason for that, and it has nothing to do with a deep state conspiracy to frame Putin.

Trump and his allies are capitalizing on a basic misapprehension of how computer intrusion investigations work. Investigating a virtual crime isn’t a like investigating a murder. The Russians didn’t leave DNA evidence on the server racks and fingerprints on the keyboards. All the evidence of their comings and goings was on the computer hard drives, and in memory, and in the ephemeral network transmissions to and from the GRU’s command-and-control servers.

When cyber investigators respond to an incident, they capture that evidence in a process called “imaging.” They make an exact byte-for-byte copy of the hard drives. They do the same for the machine’s memory, capturing evidence that would otherwise be lost at the next reboot, and they monitor and store the traffic passing through the victim’s network. This has been standard procedure in computer intrusion investigations for decades. The images, not the computer’s hardware, provide the evidence.

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There’s a final bit of evidence that the FBI got what it wanted from the DNC, and it was filed in the U.S. District Court in Washington DC last Friday: 29-pages of inside details showing exactly how and when the GRU’s hackers moved through the DNC’s network on their mission to help Trump.

If the president really wants to know what the DNC server is saying, it’s all in the indictment against Putin’s hackers. He just has to listen.
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Trump's 'Missing DNC Server' Is Neither Missing Nor a Server (Original Post) babylonsister Jul 2018 OP
But the Pakistani!!! superpatriotman Jul 2018 #1
Stop him before he gets to Benghazi! Nt Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2018 #3
Bwahaha! Ligyron Jul 2018 #10
Trump is a dinosaur... llmart Jul 2018 #2
Trump's supporters are dinosaurs ToxMarz Jul 2018 #13
"We need to see what the server says" yuiyoshida Jul 2018 #15
kick for exposure Maeve Jul 2018 #4
lol! nt babylonsister Jul 2018 #6
He's only displaying his technological ignorance here. smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #5
Anyone know what Cloud Service DNC was using? HipChick Jul 2018 #8
That part of the presser was the weirdest. panader0 Jul 2018 #7
Like that ferret festooned pissbucket would know anything about any IT infrastucture the DNC ET Awful Jul 2018 #9
They're getting their conspiracy theories from old episodes of NCIS... Wounded Bear Jul 2018 #11
Just Humor Him Roy Rolling Jul 2018 #12
Thanks, Sister! B Stieg Jul 2018 #14
Kicking this. calimary Jul 2018 #16

superpatriotman

(6,247 posts)
1. But the Pakistani!!!
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 08:05 AM
Jul 2018

There's a Pakistani guy running around with this server and we need to see what's on it.

WTF?

llmart

(15,535 posts)
2. Trump is a dinosaur...
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 08:08 AM
Jul 2018

who doesn't understand technology other than how to do a tweet.

What an ignoramus!

ToxMarz

(2,166 posts)
13. Trump's supporters are dinosaurs
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 10:22 AM
Jul 2018

And these carefully crafted talking points are being fed to Trump because they will resonate with their "common sense wisdom".

yuiyoshida

(41,829 posts)
15. "We need to see what the server says"
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 10:47 AM
Jul 2018

He says, "MR. President, STFU and pay your damn dinner bill! "

Maeve

(42,279 posts)
4. kick for exposure
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 08:15 AM
Jul 2018

And remember, the TreasonWeasel still talks about Hillary 'acid washing' her emails because he can't tell computers from jeans.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
7. That part of the presser was the weirdest.
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 08:33 AM
Jul 2018

He said server so many times I lost count. No answer to the question, just server, server, server.

ET Awful

(24,753 posts)
9. Like that ferret festooned pissbucket would know anything about any IT infrastucture the DNC
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 09:26 AM
Jul 2018

may or may not have had in place and how it was engineered, stored, etc.

Roy Rolling

(6,911 posts)
12. Just Humor Him
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 10:19 AM
Jul 2018

Trump is hopelessly ignorant about computers and cyber warfare. Just tell him the server was deported back to Russia. That should keep him busy for a while.

B Stieg

(2,410 posts)
14. Thanks, Sister!
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 10:33 AM
Jul 2018

Another of your important and informative posts. Digital computing IS the new battleground and, potentially, locus for the next World War.

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