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stopbush

(24,392 posts)
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 11:07 AM Jul 2018

R Senators with a shred of decency could stop tRump immediately.

Well, it would take three of them: simply switch parties. Today. Throw the Senate to Dem control. That means no SCOTUS hearings. No tRump agenda moving forward. It means a Congressional check on the Traitor-in-Chief.

John McCain could lead the charge. Get two others out of Collins, Murkowski, Flake and Corker to switch party alliance for the rest of their current term.

It will never happen, of course, but it is an answer to the “there’s nothing I can do” hand wringing we’ll be seeing from these fucking TRAITOR ENABLERS going forward.

Desperate times demand dramatic action. Better a traitor to your party than a traitor to the country.

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stopbush

(24,392 posts)
2. Exactly. You notice I didn't say to switch to the D party.
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 11:13 AM
Jul 2018

Just stop being an R. Caucus with the Ds for a few months.

Of course, becoming a D would be a great FU to Traitor McConnell.

lapfog_1

(29,191 posts)
3. It would only take 2, not 3...
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 11:19 AM
Jul 2018

today the senate is 51 - 49... except that McCain is unlikely to ever cast another vote...

He is also likely the only patriotic R to actually do what has been suggested (I suggested this a week ago about the KKKavanaugh nomination). But I doubt he will be physically able to make the trip to actually cast the vote.

stopbush

(24,392 posts)
4. I figured McCain's health issue into my scenario.
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 11:22 AM
Jul 2018

But he could be the one to lead the charge. He switches and then two others join him to give Ds a 51-48 margin in the Senate, factoring in McCain not returning to DC.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
6. Without McCain, it would take 1.
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 11:31 AM
Jul 2018

Currently: 51 R-49 D
w/o McCain: 50 R-49 D
w/1 switch: 49 R-50 D


My kingdom for a horse.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
5. Those who aren't retiring or dying would have to be willing to lose their next election.
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 11:23 AM
Jul 2018

And I don't think either Flake or Corker are principled enough to make the switch even if they are retiring.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
7. Flake and Corker probably want a future in politics, despite retiring (state level?).
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 11:32 AM
Jul 2018

They are disassociating from tRump, not their party.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
8. Idk, becoming an independent might be a good move for Susan Collins
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 11:42 AM
Jul 2018

Independents do well in Maine. Our other senator, Angus King, is an independent. I think she'd be able to get re-elected as an independent because people here would reward her for standing up to Trump. Might be a good move for her career. Plus, she gets called a rino all the time. Republicans are so crazy that I can see them not choosing her as a candidate the next time around anyhow.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
12. Yeah, we also can use ranked choice voting for U.S. Senate races now
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 11:51 AM
Jul 2018

So Mainers can vote their favorite without having to worry about spoilers... Don't have to worry about the asshole Republican the majority hates winning because everyone else is split between the independent and the Democrat. There's never been a better time to be an independent candidate in Maine, at least for U.S. House and U.S. Senate. We still have some work to do so we can use ranked choice voting in the general election for governor and state legislature races, but we can use it in all the primaries. It is an approvement.

FSogol

(45,446 posts)
10. R Senators with a shred of decency are extinct.
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 11:45 AM
Jul 2018

I think the last one was Richard Lugar or John Warner.

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