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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 10:17 PM Jul 2018

Wake up, Maggie, I think I got something to say to you (ridiculous Haberman spin on Trump / Putin)

Maggie Haberman

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@maggieNYT

“Baffled by his solicitous tone toward Mr. Putin, some people close to Mr. Trump have concluded that he feels vulnerable to Mr. Putin, even if it is in his own mind, rather than because of any damaging information possessed by the Russians.”


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Wake up, Maggie, I think I got something to say to you (ridiculous Haberman spin on Trump / Putin) (Original Post) Miles Archer Jul 2018 OP
Omg is she fucking for real? Maven Jul 2018 #1
I'm getting very close to not sharing her thoughts here any more. Miles Archer Jul 2018 #2
This says it all: Maven Jul 2018 #3
enabler suprcali Jul 2018 #4
What am I missing here? NanceGreggs Jul 2018 #5
I dont get it either. I read the whole article JDC Jul 2018 #6
I read the article as well ... NanceGreggs Jul 2018 #9
this isn't the only thing haberman has done suprcali Jul 2018 #7
Maybe you can enlighten me then. NanceGreggs Jul 2018 #11
Links suprcali Jul 2018 #12
You said ... NanceGreggs Jul 2018 #13
interpretation suprcali Jul 2018 #14
Your comments were quite clear ... NanceGreggs Jul 2018 #15
ok ma'am suprcali Jul 2018 #16
I agree with Nancy here and I have been very Justice Jul 2018 #8
Count me in as someone who doesn't get it. n/t demmiblue Jul 2018 #10

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
2. I'm getting very close to not sharing her thoughts here any more.
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 10:21 PM
Jul 2018

It's not quite a violation of the T.O.S. ( "don't spread right wing talking points" ), but it's getting uncomfortably close. She's crafting a reality that is part Trump apologist, part clueless conspiracy theorist.

Oh, and one more thing...everyone else is fearlessly calling Trump a LIAR, while she steadfastly refuses to use the word, which results in half of the comments on her tweets calling her out for that, and her replying with some form of snarky defense.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
5. What am I missing here?
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 10:32 PM
Jul 2018

She's reporting what "some people close to Trump have concluded" - and I've no doubt that IS what they're telling themselves.

Reporting what "other people have concluded" doesn't mean she's adopted that conclusion herself, nor that she agrees with it or finds it a credible position.

The "spin" is what she's commenting on - she's not doing the spinning herself.

JDC

(10,117 posts)
6. I dont get it either. I read the whole article
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 10:45 PM
Jul 2018

She is quoting the feelings of those close to Trump. The article in no way elevates *45.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
9. I read the article as well ...
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 10:51 PM
Jul 2018

... thinking I'd find what was missing from the OP. I'm still in the dark as to what the OP is trying to say.

suprcali

(108 posts)
7. this isn't the only thing haberman has done
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 10:48 PM
Jul 2018

Her access is more important than the reality that trump is damaging to the country. What exactly are we supposed to do with this insider information? Understand him? Trump appeased​ putin, trashed American Intelligence and, damaged relations with allies. Those are the only things we should care about.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
11. Maybe you can enlighten me then.
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 10:59 PM
Jul 2018

What is the "thing" Haberman has done here?

How does reporting on what is being discussed among Trump supporters a call to "understand him"?

G'head - I'll wait.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
13. You said ...
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 11:34 PM
Jul 2018

... "this isn't the only thing Haberman has done" in response to an OP about a tweet today, which the OP then characterized as "Haberman's spin" on Trump/Putin.

How is Haberman "spinning" anything by simply conveying what Trump insiders are telling themselves? Anything she said or did in the past is NOT the topic of the OP.

By saying "THIS isn't the only thing Haberman has done", you are apparently buying into the OP's characterization that what Haberman said today is some pro-Trump spin - which is very obviously isn't.

suprcali

(108 posts)
14. interpretation
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 11:46 PM
Jul 2018

That's your interpretation of my post but that's not what I intended. Anyway, I'm not going to continue a back and forth for maggie "but her emails" haberman.

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