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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 07:54 AM Jul 2018

Trump calls out 'very aggressive' Montenegro in latest NATO jibe

LONDON — In the 12 short years since Montenegro regained its independence, the European country has joined NATO, boosted its defense spending, and according to official figures contributes more troops per capita to the war in Afghanistan than the United States.

Yet this U.S. ally — smaller than Connecticut and about as populous as Baltimore — found itself in President Donald Trump's cross hairs late Tuesday as he once again criticized NATO.

The president suggested he would be unhappy defending "tiny" Montenegro if it were attacked, calling into question NATO's central principle of mutual defense.

He also questioned whether the country's "very aggressive people" could draw NATO into a war with Russia.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/trump-calls-out-very-aggressive-montenegro-latest-nato-jibe-n892311


Wonder where he got the idea that Montenegro was "aggressive" from?

14 people, including 2 Russians, charged with attempted coup in Montenegro

http://www.businessinsider.com/14-people-2-russians-charged-with-attempted-coup-in-montenegro-2017-4
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chelsea0011

(10,115 posts)
1. Montenegro? He is still pissed that the world media took him to task for pushing
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 08:01 AM
Jul 2018

their PM out of the way, so he thinks this AM he can threaten them? He is a serious threat to world peace.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
3. He made the comment during his interview with Tucker Carlson
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 08:05 AM
Jul 2018

Tucker seemed to be pushing the idea that "Americans shouldn't die to protect Montenegro" as well.

Seems clear that Putin will be making some moves in Europe shortly and the US will roll over and Fox and Friends will have Putin and Trump's back.

chelsea0011

(10,115 posts)
12. I don't watch that friggin awful station but I didn't know where the Montenego
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 11:41 AM
Jul 2018

stuff came from. Tucker wonders why his son should fight for Montenegro? I don't know. It's an ally, maybe. Tucker must want his son to fight for Russia. It figures they would bring up a fairly tiny country as to use as an example to shit on NATO. Let them say that about Great Britain of France.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
13. I think Montenegro was chosen deliberately because Putin plans to take it over
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 11:43 AM
Jul 2018

As he has attempted to do as recently as last year.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,163 posts)
4. I half wonder if Putin put him up to that stunt
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 08:06 AM
Jul 2018

I know Putin put him up to singleing out Montenegro in these comments. That’s a given.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,163 posts)
2. Montenegro also is the country whose Prime Minister Trump shoved at a NATO meeting
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 08:01 AM
Jul 2018

Trump was literally aggressive towards that country’s leader.

Literally.

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
6. Gee.... just a guess but I'd say he got the idea from his buddy PUTIN.
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 08:06 AM
Jul 2018

Disgusting that Trump is so STUPID that he is willing to spout any ridiculous lie that Putin feeds him.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
7. He very often just parrots whatever he heard most recently
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 08:08 AM
Jul 2018

Obviously he knows nothing about Montenegro himself, so it seems clear that he picked up the idea that they are "aggressive" from Putin. Seems like Fox is preparing the ground to back up the US rolling over when Russia makes its next move.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
8. The Tucker Carlson interview last night was a complete shitshow.
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 08:14 AM
Jul 2018

Actually it aired last night but was recorded in Helsinki. It's obvious Putin wants Montenegro.






Trump says he's bothered by provisions of NATO that require the US to come to the defense of other member countries.




TUCKER: "Why should my son go to Montenegro to defend it from attack?"

TRUMP: “I understand what you’re saying. I’ve asked the same question."




Trump uses white supremacists talking points -- says immigration is "destroying the culture of Europe" -- falsely claims construction of his border wall has already started, adds that he wants to be able to deport immigrants without due process.



Trump suggests he feels a certain loyalty to Russia because they helped us win World War 2. Then tries to take credit for the fact the American economy is "about twice the size of China." #lulz


 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
9. The Montenegro discussion is something to take note of
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 08:31 AM
Jul 2018

Seems like an oddly random thing for them to be talking about - and yet, a moment's reflection will make it clear that this is Putin.

Where would Trump get the idea that Montenegro was "very aggressive" if not from Putin?

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
10. Spot on. Why would it even come up and why would Trump care unless he'd been
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 08:37 AM
Jul 2018

briefed by Putin. This is why transcripts from their summit need to made available.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
14. Tucker brought it up but Trump had the response that they were "aggressive"
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 11:45 AM
Jul 2018

The whole thing is extremely suspicious.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
11. Definitely Russia
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 09:24 AM
Jul 2018

In 2016, the chief prosecutor in Monte­negro accused Russian nationalists of being behind an alleged coup attempt that included plans to assassinate the nation’s pro-western prime minister over his government’s attempt to join NATO.

Since joining the alliance, Monte­negro has sent troops to a NATO-led mission in Afghanistan.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-says-defending-tiny-nato-ally-montenegro-could-lead-to-world-war-iii/2018/07/18/f7a09276-8a80-11e8-8aea-86e88ae760d8_story.html?utm_term=.ea5421e9cc34



The Baltics are extremely worried, too.

Anticipating Putin’s next war

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/theworldpost/wp/2018/07/17/putin/?utm_term=.10798f35c582

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
16. Remember this Putin/Trump billboard?
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 11:58 AM
Jul 2018

It was put up in Montenegro before the election. I thought it was a threat at the time.
Russia wants all the bits it lost back. This bit happens to have water access.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/russian-billboard-features-trump-and-putin/

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