Your guess on what Putin has on Trump?

[CTyankee]

I mean, we already know there are pee pee tapes. We know about the sexual encounters. We know more and more each day about shady business deals. So what more can we possibly learn
that we haven't already learned? Do you have a theory?

[hlthe2b]

1. "20-Life" worth of Russian $$$ laundering...

[CTyankee]

4. Will that come as a shock to the general public?

[hlthe2b]

9. No.. but facing prison for himself and his family should for Trump.

Being President might delay the sentencing, but it wouldn't forego as this would be state charges.

[Roland99]

2. Twitler is all about the $$$ and the fame. Related to those

[unblock]

3. anything and everything.

donnie's the easiest mark in the world, so putin could easily have evidence of all kinds of unforgivable sexual, financial, illegal activity.

or he could have simply said "novichok" at any point in the meeting and watch donnie pee his pants.



but i still think donnie's far more motivated by upside than downside regarding russia. he really doesn't act like he's at all reluctant to support russia.

[CTyankee]

5. "novichok" could very well the turning point...

[Afromania]

6. The look Trump had comming out of there makes me think it's something of a sexual nature involving

underage girls and I don't think it was a paid for services type of scenario.

[meow2u3]

7. The Russian Maytag Money Machine

Better known as a Russian money laundering operation, using the Trump Organization as a front company.

[CTyankee]

8. That should shock some of his voters for sure.

[pnwest]

10. Best theory I've heard is that pootie owns

most, if not all, of shitstain’s debt, and can wipe him out in a heartbeat.

[dchill]

31. I believe that's essentially it.

Talk about ill-gotten gains!

[FakeNoose]

37. I hope that's true, 'cause Pootie will never see a dime

Cheetie will stiff him like he does all his creditors. However Russian mob bosses have their own ways of getting even.

[frogmarch]

42. I lean toward that theory as

the main reason, but I think there also may be other things putin is holding over him besides that. Sexual things, possibly, and pee things. Maybe a whole raft of things.

[dalton99a]

11. Russian mob money laundering.

Proof of Trump's enlistment as a KGB asset.

Very young Ivanka-looking female(s) on tape.

Etc.

[nevergiveup]

12. If the Russian (banks) oligarchs

call in all of the orange man's loans the Trump Empire goes down in flame. That is all you need to know

[Laxman]

13. I Don't Think We Need To Guess....

It's a combination of money laundering/shady real estate deals/shady sourced loans that bailed Trump out of financial disaster and made him beholden to the Russian Oligarchs/Mob. That's where his loyalties are, not to the United States. As if that wasn't on full display up until now, his Helsinki performance (and the flailing that has followed) was all but a confession.

[dchill]

33. It's the classic six ways to Sunday.

(Whatever that reference means.)

[gibraltar72]

14. Everything!

[Timmygoat]

15. have heard

Something about Trump and another person being involved in the rape of a 13 year old, which was all hushed up.

[CTyankee]

18. Wow, that's super bad. I wonder what his most loyal fan base would do/say to that...

If it's ok with ANYBODY then we are in bigger trouble than I thought...

[dchill]

34. But they thought she was FIFTEEN!

She looked every bit of it! I swear!

[FakeNoose]

38. That didn't happen in Russia though

Apparently the girl's family was paid off and no doubt somebody signed an NDA.
Nothing ever came of that lawsuit and the charges were quietly dropped before it went to court.
But there is a tape somewhere of 2 men (one of them is Trump) assaulting/raping that 13-year-old girl.

[PatSeg]

16. It is primarily money

And money will be Trump's downfall.

[WhiteTara]

17. money laundering, unregistered foreign agent. nt

[CTyankee]

19. Yep. Let's not forget that Putin was a former KGB head...and they don't mess around...

[WhiteTara]

21. a novichok big mac for lunch?

Delicious.

[Hortensis]

20. Agree with all. A dead to rights, go straight to jail card

held by the Kremin is entirely credible, money laundering, conspiring against America, whatever. Almost impossible to believe they, and some big power players here also, don't hold at least one.

Donny's lead such a depraved life that there has to be underage sex in it, long before the Kremin set him up with it. Anything that could actually make a man who's lived his life largely above the law afraid of prison seems possible in this man.

But he's also such a narcissistic nutter that it could include silly, image-related stuff too. I'm guessing he'd have initially done a lot to hide revelations of an evening of homosexual sex, for instance. And after whatever he agreed to do to hide that, he'd be on the Kremlin's hook.

[CTyankee]

22. And if there were an underaged boy involved...

[Hortensis]

24. ...who was the one on top in the pictures.

And I do think in that scenario that last might be the biggest problem for someone with Trump's narcissistic need to be seen as powerful and superior to everyone else.

This kind of speculation isn't even really unseemly because, with his hedonistic life in general, some sexual exposure seems too much within the realm of possibility. Given his manifest mental defects, including lack of conscience and moral code, and his weakness and cowardice, President Trump really might have been brought to the point of helping Russia smash the United States initially to hide some pictures of him and a goat, or something equally as...trivial, puerile, nothing.

We're living a ridiculously bad, intolerably implausible novel that now has us all hooked anyway. How will we end?

[Raster]

23. 1. Conclusive evidence of tRump*s money laundering for the Russian mob and the Putin* Oligarchs...

...often one and the same; and

2. Video of tRump*s lurid sexual encounters, possibly with underage girls.

[librechik]

25. I have faith in our intelligence services, and I know what Putin is

PP tape fer sher

[Sunsky]

26. These criminals love to project their misdeeds

onto others. Based on two of the biggest Trump supporters led lies during the 2016 election cycle (pizzagate and Seth Rich), other than Hillary's email.
My guess- it's something involving pedophilia (underage sex/ child sex ring etc.) and or murder.

[BlueDog22]

27. Money

He owes a lot to Russian lenders.

[milestogo]

28. Sex, money, and murder.

[JustAnotherGen]

29. Do re mi means money

[oberliner]

30. A fellow supporter of authoritarianism?

[jmowreader]

32. It's all financial

Trump could have been the one who deflowered Ivanka, and the Deplorables would still support him. Russian Mob money is a different story, and there’s a lot of it in his buildings.

[stonecutter357]

35. I think it's Maria Butina and Russian money going to the NRA !

[MGKrebs]

36. The consensus seems to be money laundering for the Russians,

and I agree.
So the next question is, how bad is that for Putin? Does he care if Trump goes down? Would he try to do anything if he sees that coming? You know he's making plans. What would that be? If people start ratting out Friends of Putin, it could get ugly. But I submit that no one will EVER rat out Russians, so Mueller (or whoever) will have to figure everything out on their own.

[superpatriotman]

39. Money laundering evidence

Nothing shameful because he has no shame.

Go after his money, though...

[thucythucy]

40. Photos of his micropenis? nt.

Just joking.

I think.

[GoCubsGo]

41. Money laundering and possibley human trafficking.

And, it wouldn't surprise me if the hookers in the pee tape were underage girls. Trumpy sure does love his little girls.

[JHB]

43. He's always played straight with people who know his concrete shoe size...

...or slip novichok into cheeseburgers.

But what the hell, odds are this too:

Group sex with several underaged (but "old enough" ) Ivanka look-alikes. With her name used multiple times.

That sort of thing just might turn her against him, which may be the one non-lethal, non-incarceration thing he's afraid of at that level.

[dansolo]

44. I don't think Trump is acting on fear from Putin

I believe that Trump's deference to Putin is entirely based on the promise of wealth and power. I don't think that Putin needs to threaten Trump at all. He is a more than willing accomplice.

As for the rest of the GOP, that is another matter entirely.

[Act_of_Reparation]

45. A really embarassing TGI Friday's receipt.

[DoBotherMe]

46. Everything, Everything

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210861055

[Golden Raisin]

47. My guess is bigtime Financial (money laundering, debt, etc.)

with a sidecar of something sexual.

[NeoGreen]

48. Money Laundering and the threat of poisoning by Chemistry and/or Plutonium...

...of himself and ALL of his kids (the only other people he might care about).

There may or may not be a "pee tape", underage or otherwise, but relative to the above it would be incidental.

[Caliman73]

49. Everything from the pee tape to the real estate loans has to do with ... MONEY

Money and image (because it is tied to his money) are the only things that matter to Trump. Putin has financials on Trump. Russian hold a lot of Trump debt and properties. The pee tape isn't only about Trump's image (his supporters would not care) it is about his prenuptial with Melania. If information were to come out that he violated the pre-nup then he would have to pay her a settlement upon divorce. He left Marla Maples with very little financial support because he claims she cheated on him, invoking the prenup. It supposedly saved him millions of dollars in assets and alimony.