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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNew court filing: Butina offered an individual sex in exchange for position in an organization:
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Devlin Barrett
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In new court filing, feds say they believe Maria Butina has been in contact with Russian intel officers, and "offered an individual other than (her boyfriend) sex in exchange for a position within a special interest organization."
Raster
(20,996 posts)And there it is.
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)matt819
(10,749 posts)It depends on whether she is an employee of one of the Russian intelligence agencies. If she is, then she is a Russian intelligence officer. Or what is popularly, but inaccurately, known as a spy. (BTW, the spy would be the one working for the foreign intelligence agency. IOW, trump, lapiere, clarke, et al, would be the spies.)
From what I've read so far, she would be more accurately described as an "access agent," working at the direction of, you guessed it, a Russian intelligence officer.
In a normal world, an access agent would be someone of the same nationality of the country the intel officer is operating in, or a third country national. That way, the target would not necessarily know that he/she is being targeted by a foreign intelligence service. The objective would be for the access agent to provide information to the foreign intelligence officer that would allow that person to ultimately recruit the target. Do they need money? Ideologically in agreement with the foreign intelligence service? Revenge against their own country for any number of reasons? Ego boost? The name Hillary makes the target shake with rage? You name it. The pitch could be based on any or all of these factors.
The fact that Butina is Russian, and an apparently well-connected Russian at that, sort of expedites the process. The target (stupidly) may not realize he/she is a target, but they certainly know from the start that they are in touch with a Russian. The fact that they are willing, indeed eager, to meet with her and accept gifts, gives her and in turn the Russian intelligence officer all they need to recruit the target.
Butina and/or the intel officer, may choose to regard some of her contacts as useful idiots, providing credibility, perhaps, or access to yet other targets. But to be considered an actual asset, the Russian intel officer would make the pitch and make it clear what is required and what will be provided in return. As noted above, it may only take an ego boost, or it may take trips to Russia, or it may take actual money in the bank.
dalton99a
(81,068 posts)Zoonart
(11,750 posts)fleur-de-lisa
(14,615 posts)kentuck
(110,950 posts)A man on the street??
Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)emulatorloo
(43,982 posts)Devlin Barrett
Washington, D.C.
Reporter focusing on national security and law enforcement
Education: McGill University, BA
Devlin Barrett writes about national security and law enforcement. He started as a copy boy at the New York Post, and since then has covered the NYPD, federal courts, and the Justice Department and its component agencies, including the FBI, the Drug Enforcement Administration, and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
Honors & Awards:
Pulitzer Prize co-finalist for Feature Writing, 2017
Pulitzer Prize co-finalist for International Reporting, 2017
Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)emulatorloo
(43,982 posts)Just a quick google of his name. Thanks for your post on him .
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)freaking degenerate republicans have the morals of Corpulent Unloyal Cossack Kinksters (CUCKs).
MineralMan
(146,192 posts)I remember a security briefing back in the late 60s, when I was working in the NSA building while serving in the USAF. I had one of those Top Secret clearances with a bunch of extended features. They showed us a film about the Russians training young women to seduce people like me.
Like many other young guys in their 20s, I kept waiting for one of them to show up. Never happened.
+++++++++++++++++
MineralMan
(146,192 posts)not to laugh out loud. It reminded me of those anti-drug and "hygeine" films they used to show in high school in the early 60s. Bad actors, poor production values, and the same damned narrator who used to do voice-overs on nature films and other such stuff.
That particular honey pot warning film was probably made in the late 50s or early 60s, based on the clothing. The featured Russian woman sidles up to a guy in a bar and comes on to him in not a very subtle way. Of course, the guy, being a guy with no sense whatsoever, doesn't recognize her Russian accent. He's too busy looking at her cleavage.
So, off they go to a hotel room, where he spills all sorts of Top Secret information, once she shows him more of her assets and fondles his assets.
Ridiculous stuff, but the security folks took it seriously. None of those in the audience did, of course, and no such thing ever happened to anyone I knew. Unfortunately, that period of my young adult life was very unexciting...sexually...I mean.
HAB911
(8,811 posts)MineralMan
(146,192 posts)TlalocW
(15,358 posts)Blanc only did Fudd's voice when he had to. He didn't like it.
TlalocW
BumRushDaShow
(127,312 posts)Those twirler Nazi tits, tiny typewriter, and Wagner music are hilarious, but the vicious stereotypes, I guess, were a product of the times
rainin
(3,010 posts)MineralMan
(146,192 posts)It's had poor reviews, so I'm skipping it. I saw Jennifer Lawrence's assets already in another movie.
rainin
(3,010 posts)If your expectations are low, you'll probably enjoy it. The twists, turns, and unexpected outcomes make it totally worth the time. I'm watching it again with other members of the family.
MineralMan
(146,192 posts)Danascot
(4,664 posts)so I was really looking forward to seeing the movie, especially since it has Jennifer Lawrence in it, one of our best actresses.
But the movie was a mess. Murky plot, long, boring sections, characters you don't care about ... I had to stop watching about halfway in.
I do highly recommend the book and the two others in the Red Sparrow trilogy. It's one of the best spy thrillers I've read, and I've read hundreds.
Here's a review of the book that says it far better than I could:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/red-sparrow-a-fantastic-new-spy-thriller-by-former-cia-operative-jason-matthews/2013/10/15/3f7f9672-cc50-11e2-8845-d970ccb04497_story.html?utm_term=.86730a25f290
If you decide to see the movie, see it before you read the book. Maybe it won't be such a disappointment.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Tons of 'em are on Youtube. Very enjoyable to watch now, and occasionally spot a budding star in them. Dick York from Bewitched was in some of them.
MineralMan
(146,192 posts)that company's success. I still remember that 16mm projector whirring away and the scratchy little speaker it had. We saw them all during my public school days.
samnsara
(17,570 posts)MineralMan
(146,192 posts)It was like a movie from the 50s.
jmowreader
(50,453 posts)The agent described this guy as the guy who taught the actors in Revenge of the Nerds how to act like nerds. One fine evening he met two women in a bar who took him home with them.
Unfortunately for the two women, he was also smart enough to report the contact to US intelligence. Turns out one was a GRU major and the other a GRU colonel. So when the two Soviets set up another meet to try to blackmail him, the US government filled the bar with armed agents pretending to be customers.
So...in they and the chief of mission in Berlin showed up to entrap this kid.
You will provide us with... (very long list of top secret information.)
No.
We have a photo of you having sex with two high ranking Soviet intelligence officers...
(Our guy snatches picture) Hey thanks! I told everyone I know about that night and no one believed me.
rainin
(3,010 posts)unless he has a very understanding wife.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Maybe it would have softened the blow if they had followed that training film with the one about VD.
MineralMan
(146,192 posts)Thrill
(19,178 posts)emulatorloo
(43,982 posts)NEW: The FBI says Mariia Butina was compared to Russian spy Anna Chapman by a Russian Official, was planning to leave Washington (if not the country), and offered someone sex in exchange for a position in a special interest organization during her work in the US, per court filing
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Ligyron
(7,592 posts)Yeah, I'd have to skip that offer
uponit7771
(90,225 posts)Tatiana
(14,167 posts)Procured to help "manage" Trump.
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)Yup she's defeinitely in that category.
rainin
(3,010 posts)rzemanfl
(29,540 posts)asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)early age to be Russian spies....as I research Russian spies, there are numerous stories..real life stories around the world..for years....
this putin guy..be afraid..be very afraid..just one story - Alexander Litvinenko..don't believe me..read the story...putin killed him..in London..yep - plutonium....
We MUST vote in November..like our lives depend on it!!!
Hubby just reminded me - the movie..SALT....
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)ewagner
(18,964 posts)Recruited from Cambridge...one of the "Cambridge 5"
Double agent...
Exposed in the early 60s and traded back to Russia for British operatives.
Inspired the story Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy
I understand (perhaps incorrectly,) there is a statue of him in Red Square.
asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)I've got some reading to do.....thanks for this ewagner....
ewagner
(18,964 posts)This is an abbreviated explanation:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_Five
asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)elmac
(4,642 posts)though the violence was seriously overstated, made up, their infiltration techniques were spot on.
lapfog_1
(29,166 posts)and the Russian spies were actually caught and prosecuted by...
Peter Strzok
(from the "if you TRIED to make a movie script out of this, nobody in Hollywood would buy it" file)
peekaloo
(22,977 posts)but he had a previous engagement with Ted Nugent.
safeinOhio
(32,531 posts)pay her that much money?
peekaloo
(22,977 posts)Render them unconscious and pose them for compromise.
Hmmmmmmm.
Baitball Blogger
(46,576 posts)Xipe Totec
(43,872 posts)I see what you did there.
manor321
(3,344 posts)Sancho
(9,065 posts)Those Russian women still don't have the special Hope Hicks skills.
Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)Probably not with the sex part, but who knows?
snort
(2,334 posts)B Stieg
(2,410 posts)My bro does PR for the campaign (disclosure), and it's a dead heat--even behind "the Orange Curtain!"
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-rohrabacher-rouda-poll-20180717-story.html
cilla4progress
(24,588 posts)"brief." Something tells me he would be ...brief.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,483 posts)Lanius
(599 posts)Intimidating for the guys she's working on/with.
C_U_L8R
(44,895 posts)especially when they're sleeping with Russian spies.
Gonna need another truckload of popcorn for this.
madaboutharry
(40,152 posts)refused to call her in for an interview. The republicans on the House Intel Committee flatly refused to call her before the committee. They were obstructing justice. They were covering for someone, or maybe themselves.
BumRushDaShow
(127,312 posts)by Tom Jackman and Rosalind S. Helderman July 18 at 12:26 PM
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FBI agents served a search warrant on Butinas residence in April, her lawyer, Robert Neil Driscoll, said in court Monday, and he insisted Butina has been offering to cooperate with the government the entire time. He also disclosed she had testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee in a closed session earlier this year.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/alleged-russian-agent-maria-butina-had-ties-to-russian-intelligence-agency-prosecutors-say/2018/07/18/a1a4042c-8a01-11e8-a345-a1bf7847b375_story.html
It's more and more obvious that the House GOP are completely compromised.
JustAnotherGen
(31,683 posts)Now who? That's the question. And who knew about the who?
B2G
(9,766 posts)Hmmm....
Ezior
(505 posts)Because that new court filing says US Person 1 is 56 years old at this time.
Which GOP operative is 56 years old and helps Russian agents contact GOP leaders and other important members of society, because he believes the Russian agent is his "girlfriend"? That US Person 1 also has ties to the NRA, and bragged about his help to establish back channel communication between key GOP figures and the Kremlin through the NRA.
https://www.lawfareblog.com/document-prosecutors-seek-pretrial-detention-mariia-butina
IthinkThereforeIAM
(3,072 posts)"Paul Erickson is an American conservative political operative and lawyer who has been involved in several Republican presidential campaigns.[1][2] He has strong ties to the National Rifle Association and Russian interests and, as of 2017, was subject to federal investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections."
"According to the United States Department of Justice, Erickson cohabitated with Russian agent Maria Butina [21]."
[link:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Erickson_(activist)|
ck4829
(34,977 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)Ellipsis
(9,123 posts)Just being in the proximity..
This ain't looking good for Scott Walker
bluecoat_fan
(262 posts)gibraltar72
(7,486 posts)to find people that would help overthrow the US government. She didn't go to a Mosque or to an Atheist organization. She went to the NRA, Republican party, National Prayer Breakfast and Trump campaign.
Dread Pirate Roberts
(1,896 posts)This is a message that needs to be spread far and wide as well as loudly.
LenaBaby61
(6,965 posts)ALL of these folks like tRump, putin, Butina are nothing but treasonous, disgusting filth buckets.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)Will they stand up to prove they are true Americans and return the Russian Donations? How many current Republican members of Congress excepted her advances or Russian money, directly or from the NRA?